Ah, the untestable "It's a hypothetical double standard!" argument.
Can you name any examples to bolster this claim, other than citing the mythical PC boogeyman? Married With Children got a lot of flack for it's unsympathetic female characters, but that show stayed on the air for over a decade. And you know why? Becuase it was funny. I swear, comedians look at political correctness like George Bush looks at terrorists. Yeah, it's annoying sometime, but the response is vastly disproportional to the actual threat. Someone cited "Hope and Faith" as an example. Do you think that that show torn apart by the PC police?
Wasn't Fran Drescher supposed to be the "wacky" character in The Nanny? There wasn't a husband, but her male boss played the straight man role. I think Ally McBeal was supposed to be a wacky lead too.
Eva Gabor's character in Green Acres, the husband is also a loon
Jeannie in I Dream of Jeannie, husband plays the straight man
Dharma in Dharma & Greg, husband plays the straight man
Gracie in The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show, husband plays the straight man
Some of those are old, some are fairly recent - certainly within the political correctness era. All of them except Burns & Allen post-date Lucy.
Wasn't Fran Drescher supposed to be the "wacky" character in The Nanny? There wasn't a husband, but her male boss played the straight man role. I think Ally McBeal was supposed to be a wacky lead too.
Eva Gabor's character in Green Acres, the husband is also a loon
Jeannie in I Dream of Jeannie, husband plays the straight man
Dharma in Dharma & Greg, husband plays the straight man
Gracie in The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show, husband plays the straight man
Some of those are old, some are fairly recent - certainly within the political correctness era. All of them except Burns & Allen post-date Lucy.
You'll notice how basically all the examples you have involve whenever a woman is the title character. I could add "Caroline in the City" and "Suddenly Susan" to the list as well. In fact, the examples that Werrick mentioned also involved title characters, with the exception of Home Improvement, although Tim Allen is still undoubtedbly the figurehead on that show (Moreover, the "sensible" characters are more about Wilson/Al than the wife, from what I remember.).
Title characters tend to be wacky in general. It makes sense, because the wacky/flawed characters are more interesting, and the sensible/down to Earth characters are boring. If you were the lead star and had the choice between playing someone interesting and someone boring, who would you choose? One of the few exceptions of this was "A Minute With Stan Hooper," where Norm played the straight man in an otherwise strange town (To the shock of many, who had a hard time imagining Norm as the straight man.).
BTW, Norm does a great bit about the Arabs in his standup routine, where he says:
You go, “All right, we got it eradicated, only this one bottle left. Let’s flush it down the toilet, and then there'll be one less fucking way for us to die… Hey, or I can keep it! Put it on the end table and impress girls with it. Scare people, hey look at that!†And then one day it's like, "Where the fuck's that bottle of smallpox? I misplaced it, goddamn I know I had it. And then I had that party for all them Arabs… and now I can't find it!" [laughs]
I went to a fucking airport and they wanted to search me. I said, "I'm not a fucking Arab! What the fuck are you talking about?"
So I showed the guy my- my- my pa- my passport. A non-Arab passport. I go, “That’s me. I’m not the Arab. I'm the guy the Arab could kill.†He wanted to search me.
All my friends and I were hugely anti-war, but we still found it hilarious. More because of Norm's delivery and timing than anything else, where he played an everyman who was just saying all these things to be frank, and didn't even think for a moment that it might be offensive. If Norm stopped at some point and whined about how it was politically incorrect to say these things and started insulting anyone who didn't think that we should be at way, it pretty much would have completely killed the joke. The thing is, Norm knew that you don't have to make those types of disclaimers, you simply allow the joke to speak for itself.
Ah, the untestable "It's a hypothetical double standard!" argument.
Can you name any examples to bolster this claim, other than citing the mythical PC boogeyman? Married With Children got a lot of flack for it's unsympathetic female characters, but that show stayed on the air for over a decade. And you know why? Becuase it was funny. I swear, comedians look at political correctness like George Bush looks at terrorists. Yeah, it's annoying sometime, but the response is vastly disproportional to the actual threat. Someone cited "Hope and Faith" as an example. Do you think that that show torn apart by the PC police?
Wasn't Fran Drescher supposed to be the "wacky" character in The Nanny? There wasn't a husband, but her male boss played the straight man role. I think Ally McBeal was supposed to be a wacky lead too.
Eva Gabor's character in Green Acres, the husband is also a loon
Jeannie in I Dream of Jeannie, husband plays the straight man
Dharma in Dharma & Greg, husband plays the straight man
Gracie in The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show, husband plays the straight man
Some of those are old, some are fairly recent - certainly within the political correctness era. All of them except Burns & Allen post-date Lucy.
There's a difference between the kind of straight-man/doofus roles played by those people and the sheer, unadulterated idiotic incompetence characterized by a great many male characters on television these days.
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"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be rude without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
Ah, the untestable "It's a hypothetical double standard!" argument.
Can you name any examples to bolster this claim, other than citing the mythical PC boogeyman? Married With Children got a lot of flack for it's unsympathetic female characters, but that show stayed on the air for over a decade. And you know why? Becuase it was funny. I swear, comedians look at political correctness like George Bush looks at terrorists. Yeah, it's annoying sometime, but the response is vastly disproportional to the actual threat. Someone cited "Hope and Faith" as an example. Do you think that that show torn apart by the PC police?
Completely ignoring the fact that the male characters still exemplorized the qualities I attributed to them that are so unflattering. It's not like Peg was the bimbo who played the stereotypical woman who cared nothing for anything other than shopping, bon-bons and Oprah while Al was the perfect husband/father who bailed her out all the time, they were both dickheads. It's not the same thing and your insistance on drawing comparisons that don't apply simply demonstrates your lack of ability to get the point.
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"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be rude without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
Werrick, you haven't really made any points. You keep insisting that women have never been treated as poorly as men have in sitcom, without actually explaining how men are treated so bad. If you want to make an accusation of a double stand, you might want to actually bring up what those standardss actually are.
Werrick, you haven't really made any points. You keep insisting that women have never been treated as poorly as men have in sitcom,
No, I haven't. You've either missed the point or are making shit up. I was actually very clear about the fact that Lucy was treated badly in I Love Lucy. At that time in history it was acceptable.
If you want to make an accusation of a double stand, you might want to actually bring up what those standardss actually are.
Yes I have... and ignoring them doesn't make them go away. Drawing again on the I Love Lucy example, there would never be, nor has there ever been a show on TV in the last 15 years or so that depicts men and women the way they're depicted on shows like Everybody Loves Raymond or Home Improvement with the roles reversed.
Folks have tried to draw examples and I've clearly shown them to be dissimilar to the examples I've provided in matter of degree. The only show I can't say anything about at this poitn is Hope and Faith because I've never actually seen it.
Despite your assertions I am making a poitn, you're just basically sayign "nuh-uh!".
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"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be rude without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
No, I haven't. You've either missed the point or are making shit up. I was actually very clear about the fact that Lucy was treated badly in I Love Lucy. At that time in history it was acceptable.
The point was that Lucy was a doofus and constantly needed Ricky to fix her problems.
Yes I have... and ignoring them doesn't make them go away. Drawing again on the I Love Lucy example, there would never be, nor has there ever been a show on TV in the last 15 years or so that depicts men and women the way they're depicted on shows like Everybody Loves Raymond or Home Improvement with the roles reversed.
So what, you're saying that your won't be satisfied until we get a show about a goofy female sportswriter whose husband takes care of the kids? Or a goofy female tool time house whose husband takes care of the kids? If your point is that we don't have something exactly analogous, then you're in for a long wait. It's like the 30 Rock skit, "Black Fraiser." Yeah, you could try making a show exactly like Fraiser with the racial roles reversed, but what would be the point? You already have a show like Fraiser. It's called Fraiser. The fact is, you're never going to get a TV shows where the gender roles entirely reversed, because sitcoms tend to carry a bit of social commentary, and the gender roles have yet to reverse in society.
From a writers perspective, it makes sense that the character who takes care of the kids is going to be the more sensible one, because that's going to be a huge amount of responsibility in general, and with the exception of shows like Married With Children and Malcolm in the Middle, most shows aren't going to have a mom who does a horrible, horrible job at it. If the mom can take care of the kids, then she can take care of the latest screw up. if dad can take care of the kids, then dad can take care of the latest screwup. Oh no, women are still strapped to the cultural stereotype that they should be barefoot and pregnant. You know this is really unfair to? Men.
And who would you cast on this show with the goofy female title character? Lisa Lampenelli? Sarah Silverman? Kathy Griffin? Margaret Cho? Back on topic, most modern non-ensemble sitcoms are actually vehicles for professional comedians, who are known for being off beat and goofy (And not sensible and dependable.). Most professional comedians are, let's see... men. Look at this thread, and the vast majority of comedians listed are men. You know who this is really unfair to? Men.
Despite your assertions I am making a poitn, you're just basically sayign "nuh-uh!".
Dude, I've gone over numerous paragraphs on basic comedic and literary theory on why the problem isn't a matter of "political correctness." My major focused around the study of media theory, specifically how different types of media affected the content of the story being told. If you want to complain, then why don't you give us an outline on the type of show you want to see? Then we could see whether or not this bar you hope to reach is actually attainable.
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Chris Rock spends a lot of time ripping on black people, too.
Ah, the untestable "It's a hypothetical double standard!" argument.
Can you name any examples to bolster this claim, other than citing the mythical PC boogeyman? Married With Children got a lot of flack for it's unsympathetic female characters, but that show stayed on the air for over a decade. And you know why? Becuase it was funny. I swear, comedians look at political correctness like George Bush looks at terrorists. Yeah, it's annoying sometime, but the response is vastly disproportional to the actual threat. Someone cited "Hope and Faith" as an example. Do you think that that show torn apart by the PC police?
Wasn't Fran Drescher supposed to be the "wacky" character in The Nanny? There wasn't a husband, but her male boss played the straight man role. I think Ally McBeal was supposed to be a wacky lead too.
Eva Gabor's character in Green Acres, the husband is also a loon
Jeannie in I Dream of Jeannie, husband plays the straight man
Dharma in Dharma & Greg, husband plays the straight man
Gracie in The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show, husband plays the straight man
Some of those are old, some are fairly recent - certainly within the political correctness era. All of them except Burns & Allen post-date Lucy.
There's a difference between the kind of straight-man/doofus roles played by those people and the sheer, unadulterated idiotic incompetence characterized by a great many male characters on television these days.
no, there isn't.
this was a good debate until the point, where you lost but failed to realize it.
Chris Rock spends a lot of time ripping on black people, too.
He kind of broke a few barriers in that act. It was steller, the drop-the-mic one, but he just couldn't follow it. Regardless, his commentary was absolutely stunning, but the comedy didn't suffer one bit. Truly a great act.
I'm not sure if anyone's brought this up (I didn't see it) but I think a large part of humor is playing off the expectations that we've established due to touchy subjects in humor. Good examples are Daniel Tosh's bit on cannibalism where he's talked about what black people taste like and such, and then says "White people? You just don't eat white people. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules", and then spends a little while pretending to be the embarassed audience, or David Cross's bit at the end of one of his CDs where he says "You know what I hate?....(N-WORD)S."
I do agree that some bounds should be respected, but the greatest comedians, in my opinion, are either so crazy (Mitch Hedberg, Daniel Tosh, Brian Regan) or so witty and topical (Robin Williams, David Cross) that it shouldn't even be a problem, because they don't have to resort to that kinda shit. Honestly, at this point, when I hear a "black dudes" joke, I shut off no matter who is telling it to me because that shit is just so played out that I've either heard it or I've heard its close relative before. The only joke poking fun at any minority that I've ever laughed at in my life is David Cross's (again) bit about the gay dude ordering at the sandwich store or whatever, and that's more amusing parody. Black people, southerners, gay folkens, asians, indians, whatever, I've heard it all before. I've heard you poke fun at the stereotypes, at the stereotypes of stereotypes, at the accents, customs, beliefs, preferences, and it's so played out that if any comedian is resorting to it, black, white, whatever, he's grasping at straws and going for the shock factor rather than actually coming up with something humorous.
Do you guys hate Kevin Smith too? because he's in my top three behind Bill Cosby (My favorite) and Bill Hicks (Second favorite). Tosh I couldn't care less about but those three I will defend to the death.
In Evening Harder Kevin Smith talks about all his favorite comedians and at the end of his list is Bill Cosby and specifically mentions "To Russel My Brother, Whom I Slept With" and describes it as brilliant. (Which I thought was kind of cool.)
Been watching the Eddie Izzard collection over the last time (£15 from HMV for anyone in the UK) and the audio commentary more than justifies the purchase (had some of it on CD or VHS) though I think the quality of his work dipped sharply for Sexie.
Anyway, best british comic for my money now is Ross Noble:
Been watching the Eddie Izzard collection over the last time (£15 from HMV for anyone in the UK) and the audio commentary more than justifies the purchase (had some of it on CD or VHS) though I think the quality of his work dipped sharply for Sexie.
Anyway, best british comic for my money now is Ross Noble:
I just want to point out that Patton Oswalt has a new CD out.
It's quite good, and comes with a DVD of one of his performances. If you order it from his website it comes with a button and a sticker too.
I didn't know about the button, DVD, and sticker. I already bought it on iTunes, though
Me neither, I just figured that was the best way to support him.
The sticker is a strip that says "Failure Pile in a Sadness Bowl" and a smaller sticker of his head. The pin is "Erect in defiance of God's Will"
Here's a bit from the CD. (as performed on Conan O'brian. Watch Conan's terrible lead-ins to let Patton tell his jokes) http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoBQzAODeao
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There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Here's a bit from the CD. (as performed on Conan O'brian. Watch Conan's terrible lead-ins to let Patton tell his jokes) http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoBQzAODeao
Dear god. Okay, is Conan a giant, Patton a midget, or is the right side of the place raised for no good reason?
He must be sitting with his knees around his chin behind that desk.
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I don't have a link to it, but oswalt was on leno talking about the rat movie and harry potter dude was on. very funny brief bit of oswalt talkinga bout potter.
Here's a bit from the CD. (as performed on Conan O'brian. Watch Conan's terrible lead-ins to let Patton tell his jokes) http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoBQzAODeao
Dear god. Okay, is Conan a giant, Patton a midget, or is the right side of the place raised for no good reason?
That's nothing. I recall some Andy Kaufman special where his desk was at least 10 feet up.
MuddBudd on
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I just want to point out that Patton Oswalt has a new CD out.
It's quite good, and comes with a DVD of one of his performances. If you order it from his website it comes with a button and a sticker too.
I didn't know about the button, DVD, and sticker. I already bought it on iTunes, though
Me neither, I just figured that was the best way to support him.
The sticker is a strip that says "Failure Pile in a Sadness Bowl" and a smaller sticker of his head. The pin is "Erect in defiance of God's Will"
Here's a bit from the CD. (as performed on Conan O'brian. Watch Conan's terrible lead-ins to let Patton tell his jokes) http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoBQzAODeao
I remember that bit
Literally the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life
I laughed so hard that I drooled on myself
The only thing that can compete would be the hair-helmet in Flight of the Conchords.
As much as I despise Last Comic Standing I always seem to watch it. Adam Vincent impressed me so far this season. So of course, he didn't make it. Fuck you popular vote.
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Wasn't Fran Drescher supposed to be the "wacky" character in The Nanny? There wasn't a husband, but her male boss played the straight man role. I think Ally McBeal was supposed to be a wacky lead too.
Eva Gabor's character in Green Acres, the husband is also a loon
Jeannie in I Dream of Jeannie, husband plays the straight man
Dharma in Dharma & Greg, husband plays the straight man
Gracie in The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show, husband plays the straight man
Some of those are old, some are fairly recent - certainly within the political correctness era. All of them except Burns & Allen post-date Lucy.
You'll notice how basically all the examples you have involve whenever a woman is the title character. I could add "Caroline in the City" and "Suddenly Susan" to the list as well. In fact, the examples that Werrick mentioned also involved title characters, with the exception of Home Improvement, although Tim Allen is still undoubtedbly the figurehead on that show (Moreover, the "sensible" characters are more about Wilson/Al than the wife, from what I remember.).
Title characters tend to be wacky in general. It makes sense, because the wacky/flawed characters are more interesting, and the sensible/down to Earth characters are boring. If you were the lead star and had the choice between playing someone interesting and someone boring, who would you choose? One of the few exceptions of this was "A Minute With Stan Hooper," where Norm played the straight man in an otherwise strange town (To the shock of many, who had a hard time imagining Norm as the straight man.).
BTW, Norm does a great bit about the Arabs in his standup routine, where he says:
You go, “All right, we got it eradicated, only this one bottle left. Let’s flush it down the toilet, and then there'll be one less fucking way for us to die… Hey, or I can keep it! Put it on the end table and impress girls with it. Scare people, hey look at that!†And then one day it's like, "Where the fuck's that bottle of smallpox? I misplaced it, goddamn I know I had it. And then I had that party for all them Arabs… and now I can't find it!" [laughs]
I went to a fucking airport and they wanted to search me. I said, "I'm not a fucking Arab! What the fuck are you talking about?"
So I showed the guy my- my- my pa- my passport. A non-Arab passport. I go, “That’s me. I’m not the Arab. I'm the guy the Arab could kill.†He wanted to search me.
All my friends and I were hugely anti-war, but we still found it hilarious. More because of Norm's delivery and timing than anything else, where he played an everyman who was just saying all these things to be frank, and didn't even think for a moment that it might be offensive. If Norm stopped at some point and whined about how it was politically incorrect to say these things and started insulting anyone who didn't think that we should be at way, it pretty much would have completely killed the joke. The thing is, Norm knew that you don't have to make those types of disclaimers, you simply allow the joke to speak for itself.
There's a difference between the kind of straight-man/doofus roles played by those people and the sheer, unadulterated idiotic incompetence characterized by a great many male characters on television these days.
-Robert E. Howard
Tower of the Elephant
Completely ignoring the fact that the male characters still exemplorized the qualities I attributed to them that are so unflattering. It's not like Peg was the bimbo who played the stereotypical woman who cared nothing for anything other than shopping, bon-bons and Oprah while Al was the perfect husband/father who bailed her out all the time, they were both dickheads. It's not the same thing and your insistance on drawing comparisons that don't apply simply demonstrates your lack of ability to get the point.
-Robert E. Howard
Tower of the Elephant
No, I haven't. You've either missed the point or are making shit up. I was actually very clear about the fact that Lucy was treated badly in I Love Lucy. At that time in history it was acceptable.
Yes I have... and ignoring them doesn't make them go away. Drawing again on the I Love Lucy example, there would never be, nor has there ever been a show on TV in the last 15 years or so that depicts men and women the way they're depicted on shows like Everybody Loves Raymond or Home Improvement with the roles reversed.
Folks have tried to draw examples and I've clearly shown them to be dissimilar to the examples I've provided in matter of degree. The only show I can't say anything about at this poitn is Hope and Faith because I've never actually seen it.
Despite your assertions I am making a poitn, you're just basically sayign "nuh-uh!".
-Robert E. Howard
Tower of the Elephant
The point was that Lucy was a doofus and constantly needed Ricky to fix her problems.
So what, you're saying that your won't be satisfied until we get a show about a goofy female sportswriter whose husband takes care of the kids? Or a goofy female tool time house whose husband takes care of the kids? If your point is that we don't have something exactly analogous, then you're in for a long wait. It's like the 30 Rock skit, "Black Fraiser." Yeah, you could try making a show exactly like Fraiser with the racial roles reversed, but what would be the point? You already have a show like Fraiser. It's called Fraiser. The fact is, you're never going to get a TV shows where the gender roles entirely reversed, because sitcoms tend to carry a bit of social commentary, and the gender roles have yet to reverse in society.
From a writers perspective, it makes sense that the character who takes care of the kids is going to be the more sensible one, because that's going to be a huge amount of responsibility in general, and with the exception of shows like Married With Children and Malcolm in the Middle, most shows aren't going to have a mom who does a horrible, horrible job at it. If the mom can take care of the kids, then she can take care of the latest screw up. if dad can take care of the kids, then dad can take care of the latest screwup. Oh no, women are still strapped to the cultural stereotype that they should be barefoot and pregnant. You know this is really unfair to? Men.
And who would you cast on this show with the goofy female title character? Lisa Lampenelli? Sarah Silverman? Kathy Griffin? Margaret Cho? Back on topic, most modern non-ensemble sitcoms are actually vehicles for professional comedians, who are known for being off beat and goofy (And not sensible and dependable.). Most professional comedians are, let's see... men. Look at this thread, and the vast majority of comedians listed are men. You know who this is really unfair to? Men.
Dude, I've gone over numerous paragraphs on basic comedic and literary theory on why the problem isn't a matter of "political correctness." My major focused around the study of media theory, specifically how different types of media affected the content of the story being told. If you want to complain, then why don't you give us an outline on the type of show you want to see? Then we could see whether or not this bar you hope to reach is actually attainable.
no, there isn't.
this was a good debate until the point, where you lost but failed to realize it.
white people HOPE
I hope noone's in our chairs
black people, we WISH
I wish a motherfucker would be in our chairs
He kind of broke a few barriers in that act. It was steller, the drop-the-mic one, but he just couldn't follow it. Regardless, his commentary was absolutely stunning, but the comedy didn't suffer one bit. Truly a great act.
I do agree that some bounds should be respected, but the greatest comedians, in my opinion, are either so crazy (Mitch Hedberg, Daniel Tosh, Brian Regan) or so witty and topical (Robin Williams, David Cross) that it shouldn't even be a problem, because they don't have to resort to that kinda shit. Honestly, at this point, when I hear a "black dudes" joke, I shut off no matter who is telling it to me because that shit is just so played out that I've either heard it or I've heard its close relative before. The only joke poking fun at any minority that I've ever laughed at in my life is David Cross's (again) bit about the gay dude ordering at the sandwich store or whatever, and that's more amusing parody. Black people, southerners, gay folkens, asians, indians, whatever, I've heard it all before. I've heard you poke fun at the stereotypes, at the stereotypes of stereotypes, at the accents, customs, beliefs, preferences, and it's so played out that if any comedian is resorting to it, black, white, whatever, he's grasping at straws and going for the shock factor rather than actually coming up with something humorous.
I'd be dryly amused if someone got mad at me for using that word in a quote =P. Duly noted, nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngroXOp-V4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AJXvmZkEhU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22PUIWI3p70
In Evening Harder Kevin Smith talks about all his favorite comedians and at the end of his list is Bill Cosby and specifically mentions "To Russel My Brother, Whom I Slept With" and describes it as brilliant. (Which I thought was kind of cool.)
Anyway, best british comic for my money now is Ross Noble:
On glueing meat to one's face.
On "24" and ice cream vendors
Video intro to Sonic Waffle routine- "Radioactive Kung-fu Fridge Boy and Monkey Slayer"
That guy isn't funny at all, he's just manic.
Jon Lovitz gves Andy Dick a beat down.
XBL: Slimebucato
That's pretty fucking hardcore. I didn't know The Critic was capable of some shit like that, but god damn if I'm not behind him 100% on it.
It's quite good, and comes with a DVD of one of his performances. If you order it from his website it comes with a button and a sticker too.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I didn't know about the button, DVD, and sticker. I already bought it on iTunes, though
Me neither, I just figured that was the best way to support him.
The sticker is a strip that says "Failure Pile in a Sadness Bowl" and a smaller sticker of his head. The pin is "Erect in defiance of God's Will"
Here's a bit from the CD. (as performed on Conan O'brian. Watch Conan's terrible lead-ins to let Patton tell his jokes)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoBQzAODeao
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
That's nothing. I recall some Andy Kaufman special where his desk was at least 10 feet up.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I just noticed that I totally hit quote on the wrong post. Go me.
I remember that bit
Literally the funniest thing I have ever heard in my life
I laughed so hard that I drooled on myself
The only thing that can compete would be the hair-helmet in Flight of the Conchords.
Those who like Maria Bamford, she's on Jimmy Pardo's podcast this week.
Speaking of Jimmy is quite funny, in a more subtle way. He hosts a live version of the Match Game down in Hollywood once a month, which is hilarious.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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