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Inherent right to freedom

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    bentbent Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    What if life isn't really life?

    You know?

    what if life was, like, death?
    :O

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    bent wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    bent wrote: »
    Seeing how I live in the wettest city in Britain I don't think buying a motorcycle would be a very sensible choice. Plus I like listening to music whilst travelling, sitting down comfortably, being surrounded by a shell of metal rather than nothing at all. All that.

    I'd still fucking love one, though.

    It's a lot of fun, but I really only take it for joy rides where I live. But yeah, it's pretty scary when you first get out there.

    I can imagine. If I had one as my main mode of transport I don't think I could put up with wearing the leathers for more than about five minutes, let alone constantly changing in/out of them when I arrive at whatever my destination may be.

    Oh I never wear leathers. I usually just go out in my t shirt and jeans. But then again, I only ride it when it's warm and dry. It's far from being my main mode of transportation.

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?
    because im not a retard

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?
    because im not a retard

    Please elaborate.

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    ummm the world is pretty awesome so i want to live in it
    not rocket science really

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?

    what makes us so much better than snails

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    bentbent Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Javen wrote: »
    How easy would it be to transfer all the stuff I have now onto a new harddrive? Is there any half decent way to do it or would I have to copy everything onto a jumpdrive then put it on the new one?

    You could get one of those docks to turn the new drive into an external one, then once all the stuff is copied on shift the new one in as your main drive. I have no idea if this would actually work, though.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I was at work last night, stocking shelves, and for some reason the floor is just covered with little bugs. Ladybugs and beetles and stuff.

    They're just crawling around on the floor.

    A bunch of them had been flipped over on their backs some how, and were scrambling with all their might to get back on their feet.

    I grabbed a bit of cardboard and flipped a few of the little guys over with it, and shooed them off to the side of the aisle. In the next aisle I saw the same thing.

    Then I stopped caring.

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    loverockchildloverockchild Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.

    I think that's something a person decided too

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?

    what makes us so much better than snails

    1. We're having this conversation
    2. We're having this conversation using machines which are the product of intelligence and rational thought, reduced to concrete objects to serve our purposes
    3. We survive through the use of reason, rather than muddling through on basic instinct.
    4. Salt doesn't kill us (pussies)

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    That just means we're smarter, not better.

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.

    I think that's something a person decided too

    It's a principle that was discovered through thousands of years of philosophy, but nobody "decided" it. The recognition of the right to life is a basic requirement of human survival.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Snails have houses on their backs.

    Some humans don't even have houses.

    Woooooooooo

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    loverockchildloverockchild Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    would you argue that humans have a greater right to live than less inteligent stuff?

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    bentbent Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Snails get some weird fucking parasites in their eye stalks.

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    RiotcowRiotcow Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    I get what zoolander is saying. It might be hard to accept that humans are just as important as everything else, but its a peaceful feeling once you do accept it. You're life isn't inherently special. Maybe you'll do something to make it special, well good then, do it.

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Snails have houses on their backs.

    Some humans don't even have houses.

    Woooooooooo

    Do snails design and build their houses?

    By the logic I'm seeing here, a human being is of no more value than a rock.

    If this is how the majority of the world thinks, we're doomed.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    would you argue that humans have a greater right to live than less inteligent stuff?

    Well, yeah.

    How many animals do we slaughter a year so we can eat and such?

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    human life has no more inherent value than any other life
    we're top dog now because we evolved to be pretty smart
    one day something else might overtake
    then they'll be top dog
    its the CIIIIRCLE OF LIIIIFE

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?

    what makes us so much better than snails

    1. We're having this conversation
    2. We're having this conversation using machines which are the product of intelligence and rational thought, reduced to concrete objects to serve our purposes
    3. We survive through the use of reason, rather than muddling through on basic instinct.
    4. Salt doesn't kill us (pussies)

    #4 is a good point but overall: ......so?

    hint: the universe will miss a dead snail about as much as it will miss everyone who died in the holocaust

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Snails have houses on their backs.

    Some humans don't even have houses.

    Woooooooooo

    Do snails design and build their houses?

    By the logic I'm seeing here, a human being is of no more value than a rock.

    If this is how the majority of the world thinks, we're doomed.

    That just makes humans smarter, not better.
    Unless you're saying that smart people have more of a right to live than stupid people.

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    CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.
    about as much as a snail has a right to its life

    Holy shit...how can you even think that and want to continue living?

    what makes us so much better than snails

    1. We're having this conversation
    2. We're having this conversation using machines which are the product of intelligence and rational thought, reduced to concrete objects to serve our purposes
    3. We survive through the use of reason, rather than muddling through on basic instinct.
    4. Salt doesn't kill us (pussies)

    #4 is a good point but overall: ......so?

    hint: the universe will miss a dead snail about as much as it will miss everyone who died in the holocaust

    I don't care what the universe will or will not miss.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.

    No, they don't. There is no such thing as a fundamental right. Society grants people the right to their own life, not some cosmic wizard or whatever. It's not built in. You just don't understand that.

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    i bet the dinosaurs thought they were pretty badass too
    what with the t-rexes in f-14s
    look what happened to them

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Really? So there's nothing inherently wrong with me killing you if it suits me at the moment?

    no

    I sometimes think I'm the only person who survived a college philosophy class with my mind intact.

    why would there be

    Because every individual has a fundamental right to his own life.

    I think that's something a person decided too

    It's a principle that was discovered through thousands of years of philosophy, but nobody "decided" it. The recognition of the right to life is a basic requirement of human survival.

    nobody "discovered" it

    a lot of people decided it and agreed upon it because they thought it was nice and also conducive to enjoying life

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    loverockchildloverockchild Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    human weapon is coming on so fuck this noise

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    DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    when you think about it you pretty much die every instant of your life

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    and come back to life

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited July 2007
    god save us all from philosophy students

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    When the stars become right Crossbuster will surrender himself to Great Cthulhu.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, I'm not looking forward to taking philosophy in college.

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    philosophy is so dumb
    philosophy survives because science hasnt caught up yet
    but once it does
    bye bye
    same with psychology

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    DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Zoolander wrote: »
    and come back to life

    but any connection to "our" previous life is an illusion

    im not a philosophy student, i took 101 freshman year like 4 years ago.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    See, I like psychology and sociology.
    I don't know why. I just do.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I like to think I have some sort of high ground against pigs and cows and the like.

    It helps rationalize why I kill and eat them for no real justifiable reason.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Them being delicious is a justifiable reason.

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    DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    philosophy is just trying to deduce shit logically without the aid of such frivolities as "knowledge"

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    i like philosophy, in general

    i think just because i like arguing

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The person who wins a philosophy argument is the person who's voice gives out last.

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    DranoDrano __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Fallout wrote: »
    i like philosophy, in general

    i think just because i like arguing

    same.

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