Incursion: d20 Roguelike

Mojo_Jojo

Everybody likes roguelikes, and from the brief time I've spent fiddling with this one (mainly the quite in depth character generation) it looks pretty good. For those not in the know, d20 is the basic set of mechanics that Dungeons and Dragons is based on.

Like all of these things it is still in production, so new features are constantly popping up. It's a bit of an empty OP as I've only just found out about this and it is more fun to learn together as we play.

The official site has a good manual for figuring things out.





Get it now and I'll clean this up once we figure things out and we can decorate things with our hilarious deaths.

Sushisource

This is fun. The character creation almost takes too long for how short the games are though. D:

Trevor Goodchild

I really dug what I played of this last night. I only did one game as a Paladin, but I lasted a good while, only to drown in a river on a botched jump.

KiTA

Is there a limit to the number of ressurections you can do? My Drow Rogue vanished off the ressurection list after my 6th or 7th death today...

Sceptre

I've never really understood peoples desire to make Roguelikes even harder. Nethack has to be one of the hardest damn games of all time.

Still, Ill give this a try though.

Trevor Goodchild

Sceptre wrote: »

I've never really understood peoples desire to make Roguelikes even harder. Nethack has to be one of the hardest damn games of all time.

Still, Ill give this a try though.

Nethack is hard in that stupid unpredictable way, and I frankly never enjoyed THAT.

Der Waffle Mous

Dying because I used a scroll of stone-to-flesh on that triggered boulder trap, ate it, and then got food-poisoning is one of the greatest stories of our time.


Greatest.

Zombiemambo

Honestly, one of the only reasons I play Rogue-Likes is to tell stories about it.

BlueDestiny

Harder than IVAN? If so, save time and just kill yourself each game.

Mojo_Jojo

Kobold rogues are really working out form me. Catching enemies flat footed as a rogue is great.

If you go over to the somethingawful thread, the dev has started posting there so you can get an insight into things (and he seems to answer questions). Sadly, he seems to be a fairly slow worker (at least compared to Toady of Dwarf Fortress fame).

Sceptre wrote: »

I've never really understood peoples desire to make Roguelikes even harder. Nethack has to be one of the hardest damn games of all time.

I've never liked Nethack, it just ever felt right to me. ADOM overtook it as the default roguelike so olong ago that I'm kind of surprised people still play it.

Teriferin

I've so far failed to make it past level 2, but I'm having fun anyway. My last death was a train wreck in slow motion. My dwarf priest entered some rooms that seemed to be community offices or something. In one of the rooms, I encountered a skeletal warrior and a kobold rogue. Shouldn't have been too much trouble.

They began by throwing a tanglefoot bag, and then pelting me with ranged attacks. I attempted to summon a monster with the last of my mana and, of course, failed. I managed to get myself out of the tanglefoot, and took cover in a neighbouring room until they'd gotten themselves good and stuck. Sitting ducks, thinks I.

I turned undead, destroying the skeletal warrior, and then proceeded to engage the kobold rogue. That's when things started to go south. First, a spider swarm caught me flat footed and poisoned me. The very next round, an orc rogue arrived and began pounding me with darts of numbness. I'm not sure what they did exactly, but I can't help but think they were unhelpful. I started gulping antitoxins and healing potions while attempting to disengage (Mistake, I should have been fleeing). Finally, just to make my situation even more helpless, a dark mantle dropped down on top of me. I went down a round or two after that.


I think I'm going to try a true neutral diplobard next. Lessee how many critters I can get on my side...

edit: And I have just realized that most bard abilities are currently unimplemented. Damn.

Mojo_Jojo

I've made level 3 with a Dwarf Warrior who specialized in getting the most out of his enchanted freebie shield. Made it down about four levels before I stumbled into some kind of uber zombie which regenerated faster than I could hurt it and disarmed me.

Geo

Wild Talent: Detonate is the best thing ever. Locked door and failed to lockpick? Detonate. Found a trap and can't disarm? Detonate. Even corpses are valid targets for Detonating. It's also a really good early level way to destroy undead. Even missing with an arrow is good since you can detonate it on the ground, or just detonate anything else near a monster.

I also found out that casting entangle in an ancient tomb room is a very bad idea. Tons of undead tore me apart for defiling the place.

Goumindong

This game is ridiculously hard.

Sophismata

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

All in all, I think this could well replace ADOM for me.

You have tweaked my interest. Beginning download... ^^

Sushisource

Is anyone else unable to take things out of their bags?

Goumindong

Sushisource wrote: »

Is anyone else unable to take things out of their bags?

Press space to put the item in your hand.

You have to do a lot of work arounds to get things out of multipule containers.

Sushisource

Goumindong wrote: »

Sushisource wrote: »

Is anyone else unable to take things out of their bags?

Press space to put the item in your hand.

You have to do a lot of work arounds to get things out of multipule containers.

What I mean is, I have nothing "In the Air" and it says to take stuff out of your bag press one of the numbers, but when I press the numbers nothing happens.

Goumindong

type the numbers in order type 01 to get item slot 1 out.

vhzod

This game has my seal of approval! It's not that hard either you just have to know the rules. The game system is sort of a combination of roguelikes and 3.5 dungeons and dragons which I both like. The inventory system is from omega which means its way too complicated. I made a Mage my first try and had a pretty good time of it until I mysteriously ran out of mana and didn't notice. Depending how much content there is in this game it may replace ADOM as my favorite roguelike (not counting dwarf fortress fortress mode). EDIT: Okay its pretty hard!

Sushisource

Goumindong wrote: »

type the numbers in order type 01 to get item slot 1 out.

Yeah, I figured that out 5 minutes after I posted my message.

Der Waffle Mous

I could really do without having my god turn me into a random creature every other day.


Otherwise, I quite like it.

Orogogus

So far, all my characters get killed on level 1 when a weak-ass orc or skeleton wielding some kind of magic weapon (last one was a greatsword of weakening) pounds the snot out of them. Ideally there'd be more of a progression to this sort of thing.

Trevor Goodchild

You gots to be tricksy. You're not just going to bully your way through this place. At least that's what I've been noticing. That being said, lizardman and boomerangs? win.

Goumindong

So far my most successfull trick has been to create a mage with wall of fire as an innate spell.

Unfortouantly, they take forever to dispell, and the last three games the game killed me as i rested.

skimbleshanks

drow start with all adamantine equipment. I've found that this often increses my life expectancy.

Sophismata

Four tips guys:

1. Check the options menu if you're finding the game too hard. There are two options, one which halves the hp of enemies (or doubles if you're feeling suicidal), and one which prevents out-of-depth monsters being generated. You can also make all your HP rolls maxxed for another decrese in difficulty - all these are great for trying out and getting used to the game.

2. I've generally found that you live and die by your active abilities, unlike other roguelikes where you tend to live and die by your items. Skills, feats, and class abilities are all very important.

3. Rogues are great for checking out the skill system.

4. Warriors are great for checking out Feats ^^.

Teriferin

Agh, my last game had been going so well. I had just gotten down to level 2, and already had a nice stock of magic items. I take 4 steps then...

From the shadows, a gnome!
Gnome's Attack: 1d20 (18) +5 +4 surprise +2 conceal = 29 vs Def 16 -1 noDex -1 noDodge = 14 [crit]
Gnome's Damage: 5d10 + (+2PA) x5 = 48 bypassed Cov 10 = 48
Catching you unaware, a gnome fires a crossbow bolt at you, brutalizing you.
You die...

That was such overkill. Full HP to death instantly >_<

Every game I've played with this character has ended due to horrible bad luck. No dragging on, just 1 round Death.

Zorak15

This game is quickly overtaking my entire weekend and I'm alright with that. Thanks for maeking poast.

Goumindong

You summon a bear. It eats you. you die.

Der Waffle Mous

A kobold multitude cultist trapped me in a tanglefoot bag, and proceeded to somehow make my armor and backpack explode.

Mojo_Jojo

I'm finding that priests are pretty good for their domain powers. Stat bonuses and immunities ahoy. Might be worth multiclassing outward to warrior actually. I've not tried multiclassing yet.

KiTA

skimbleshanks wrote: »

drow start with all adamantine equipment. I've found that this often increses my life expectancy.

Adamantine, POISONED equipment, with a free ranged weapon to boot.

Estoc

Wow, that is some really small text. I read that there is a way to make the text bigger using alt + space, but that isn't working for me. Any other ways? My eyes will thank you.

edit: ah, nevermind, found the font size in the options.

Goumindong

Poison/disease is way too powerful.

You get poisoned or diseased. Are you a bard with the luck to get a potion in the store? If not, you die.

Sophismata

Just lost an extremely promising character ;/. He leapt a great chasm in order to slay a Vampiric Mist, but didn't make the leap back...

Goumindong wrote: »

Poison/disease is way too powerful.

You get poisoned or diseased. Are you a bard with the luck to get a potion in the store? If not, you die.

Halflings can cure most ailments with a fountain, thanks to their exceptional luck. Most fighters/barbarians or the tougher races will just walk off poison and disease, and there are some feats that give you massive bonuses to resistance. One in particular means you only need to pass the save for most poisons once.

However, it's very nice playing a drow and using the poison against others ^^.

Goumindong

Drow are really poweful when they hit 2nd/3rd level. Got a mage who has summon monster 6 on innate spell going for alienest.. Lets see how it turns out

Wheezer

Argh, from where I'm sitting I'm unable to access the website. Either it's down or it's getting blocked by a firewall, but I can't get to it.

With this in mind, does anyone know of a mirror site or a colletion site which hosts the game files?
Failing that, could anyone please host or send the files via email?

EDIT - Disregard my request, I've recieved a copy in my mail. If anyone else needs this though, PM me.

Der Waffle Mous

Does the antitoxin actually do anything?

Mojo_Jojo

why wrote: »

Does the antitoxin actually do anything?

Yes. It boosts your poison resistance just like in D&D.

Der Waffle Mous

d'oh.