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Smash Bros. - "Things get extremely slippery!"

KorKor Known to detonate from time to timeRegistered User regular
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
The Super Smash Bros. Brawl thread.



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Known Returning Characters:

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*Not listed:

Capt. Falcon - Is highly probable, due to his rival being found in an Assist Trophy

New Characters
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*Not Listed:

Solid Snake - Also shown in previous trailer.

Final Smashes
Mario - Mario Finale
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Link - Triforce Slash
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Pikachu - Volt Tackle
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Samus - Zero Laser
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Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation
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Donkey Kong - Konga Beat
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Yoshi - Super Dragon
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Pit - Palutena's Army
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New Toys

Crates and Barrels: What better to start with than basics. These item containers have been revamped to support the themes of certain levels.
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Assist Trophy: This is the Pokeball of the Nintendo Universe. Any kind of cameo you could think of comes from within...
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Known Assist trophies:

Hammer Bros.
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Nintendog
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Samurai Goroh
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Dr. Wright
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Knuckle Joe
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Devil
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Andross-retro
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Pokeball: An alltime favorite. Which still randomly gives you a poke to cause massive destruction with.
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Groudon
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Deoxys
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Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player.
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Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It might be more recognizable as a 'Roman Candle'. We saw it briefly in the short clip from Min-E3.
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Banana Peel: Because Cliche's work.
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Bumper: A return from the 64, relatable to Melee's Flipper item. A new twist leaves this possible to plant mid-air.
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Pitfall: The item from Animal Crossing. Surprisingly, it caries its ability from Animal Crossing over very well. Simply making characters fall thru holes or thru platforms.
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Smoke Ball: An original item, soley based on obscurity. This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen.
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Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), this relates to Fox's Reflector, like the Screw Attack Ball relates to Samus' Screw Attack. Basically, it reflects projectiles.
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Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs.
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Announced Stages

Battlefield (Smash Bros.):
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Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine):
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Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island):
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Lylat Cruise (Starfox):
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Bridge to Eldin (Legend of Zelda):
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Smashville (Animal Crossing):
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Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong):
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Skyworld (Kid Icarus):
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Castle Seige (Fire Emblem):
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WarioWare Ince. (WarioWare)
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Pokemon Stadium 2 (Pokemon)
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Such Pretty Music:

First, a giant list of composers, accompanied by the new Menu Music:

Menu Theme

Now just some small clips to some music samples we've been given:

Yoshi's Story: Ending

Metroid: Ridley Battle

Ocarina of Time Medly

Star Fox: Space Armada

Kid Icarus: Underworld

Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider

Series Represented:

So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown:

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1. Smash Brothers
2. Donkey Kong
3. StarFox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. Earthbound/Mother
8. Pokemon
9. Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. ???
15. Animal Crossing
16. Wario
17. ???
18. Kid Icarus


*18 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number

Discussion (Read: Bitchings)
These are some things to expect in regards to the updates. The type of updated listed, and the expected discussion that can follow.

Music update - Next day spent argueing about MIDI files vs Orchestrated.

Item update - Someone inevitably pisses off the competitve players with the "Why no items" arguement. Other than that, everyone is generally happy.

B Moves update - People are generally meh about this towards returning characters, pretty happy about it towards new characters.

Final Smash update - 1 of 2 updates people everyone appreciates.

New/Old Character update - Pretty cool to see old characters revamped. Pretty awesome to see brand new characters.

Stage update - Next day spent arguing about gimmick levels vs. Battlefield/Final Destination.

Tutorial update - Boring tutorials, but spectacular mode discussions.

Movie update - Dicks cumming, all of them, simultaneously, with super mushroom power-ups.

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Posts

  • CantideCantide Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That didn't take long.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Oh man, Sheik is so fucking broken.

    I can't land a single hit with Ganondorf.

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm waiting for someone to actually give a count of how many threads there are.

    I'm just really wondering how many characters they're going to put in this game :).

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  • BrueBrue Registered User
    edited August 2007
    Kor is ontop of these things, as far as threads go I think its 4 or 5...

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Tcheldor wrote: »
    I'm just really wondering how many characters they're going to put in this game :).

    Considering it's SSBB, and the tone that Sakurai takes with the updates, I wouldn't be surprised if his official count is "8 GAJILLION"

  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Brue wrote: »
    Kor is ontop of these things, as far as threads go I think its 4 or 5...

    So, we're looking at about 4- or 500 or so pages of this?

    And how many posts to a page?

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  • TimestonesTimestones Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I just want some Advance Wars representation in this game. At this point I'd settle for it just being an Assist Trophy of Flak.
    Ideally we'd have Andy, Sami, and Max playable, but that'd be too good to be true.
    And before anyone goes "RAWR NO MOVES TO WORK WITH RAWR" I could easily come up with a possible moveset myself, so shush.

  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    if they made a moveset for captain falcon, they can make one for anybody

  • TimestonesTimestones Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Exactly. But it's surprising how many people (many of which who post in these threads) seem utterly incapable of grasping this fact.

  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Guek wrote: »
    if they made a moveset for captain falcon, they can make one for anybody
    But he kicks some serious ass. See?

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  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That was the greatest clip I've ever seen ever.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSQuhzHE5ww

    Also that. They need more knees in Brawl.

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  • FaustumFaustum __BANNED USERS
    edited August 2007
    Timestones wrote: »
    I just want some Advance Wars representation in this game. At this point I'd settle for it just being an Assist Trophy of Flak.
    Ideally we'd have Andy, Sami, and Max playable, but that'd be too good to be true.
    And before anyone goes "RAWR NO MOVES TO WORK WITH RAWR" I could easily come up with a possible moveset myself, so shush.

    If they did a stylized version of Andy or Sami I would never not play them

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Timestones wrote: »
    Exactly. But it's surprising how many people (many of which who post in these threads) seem utterly incapable of grasping this fact.

    Dude, Mario will never work. He's a fuckin' PLUMBER! Plumbers don't kick ass! They expose the crack of theirs!

  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Plumbers eh?


    CLR confirmed?

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  • FaustumFaustum __BANNED USERS
    edited August 2007
    Haha, I didn't notice his hat said Nintendo on it til now.

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    PENUMBRA!

    Organichu wrote: »
    The main rub is that, fuck, I'm already paying some to upgrade the length... why not pay a little bit more to upgrade the length AND width?
  • KupiKupi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    On the one hand, I was never really fond of the Donkey Kong Country series. The way Donkey and Diddy would "roll" to a stop combined with the fact that it was difficult to tell where the platforms stopped (at least for me) meant I lost a lot of lives in frustrating ways. On the other hand, the Donkey Kong games have been seriously under-represented in Smash, with only one character and a stage or two, so I'm glad to see that Diddy Kong's in.

  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User
    edited August 2007
    Timestones wrote: »
    I just want some Advance Wars representation in this game. At this point I'd settle for it just being an Assist Trophy of Flak.
    Ideally we'd have Andy, Sami, and Max playable, but that'd be too good to be true.
    And before anyone goes "RAWR NO MOVES TO WORK WITH RAWR" I could easily come up with a possible moveset myself, so shush.

    Flak? Nuts to that. Put in Sturm, I say. Why bother with a (F)lackey when you can have the boss?

    Sami would be rad, though. Andy, on the other hand, would probably be better as an assist trophy...

  • TimestonesTimestones Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Way to totally not get my point.

  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User
    edited August 2007
    Oh. Sorry, man: I guess I lack the pulsating super-brain necessary to unravel the myriad mysteries of your labyrinthine mind.

    Or it could just be that I don't care what your point was, and was just using your post as a soapbox for more Sturm whoring.

    Whichever works for you.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Kupi wrote: »
    On the one hand, I was never really fond of the Donkey Kong Country series. The way Donkey and Diddy would "roll" to a stop combined with the fact that it was difficult to tell where the platforms stopped (at least for me) meant I lost a lot of lives in frustrating ways.


    The roll is only to be used to perform Double Jumps.

    Any other usage is incorrect and punishable by caning.


    I totally agree about the platforms though not all of them are like that but there were enough to contribute alot of cheap deaths. Luckily the codes gave you 37 billion lives.


    On matters pertaining to this topic

    Update- Music from the Donkey Kong series.

    Specifically Jungle Beat.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I approve of Nazi Alf.
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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That Falcon Knee video is brilliant.

    Also someone calculate the number of updates left for us.

    The square root of that number is the number for awesome.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    That Falcon Knee video is brilliant.

    Also someone calculate the number of updates left for us.

    The square root of that number is the number for awesome.

    74 or so, I believe.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    That Falcon Knee video is brilliant.

    Also someone calculate the number of updates left for us.

    The square root of that number is the number for awesome.

    74 or so, I believe.

    With a potential 9 new characters revealed assuming a release date in november for Japan.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    That Falcon Knee video is brilliant.

    Also someone calculate the number of updates left for us.

    The square root of that number is the number for awesome.

    74 or so, I believe.

    With a potential 9 new characters revealed assuming a release date in november for Japan.

    They have given more than one character a week before.

    They have also given less than one character a week before.

    We have a potential 74 new characters. We have a likely nine or ten.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Oh right, Jap release date.... I just used the American release date, but I guess Sakurai might not make posts once it's out in Japan.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Guys, it's still only Wednesday; two more updates this week alone...I'm gonna die of anticipation before I ever get to play this one, aren't I?

    ...because dragons are AWESOME! That's why.
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  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User
    edited August 2007
    Chen wrote: »
    I approve of Nazi Alf.
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    I approve of that awesome nickname.
    Although it doesn't apply to his AW2 incarnation.

  • FaustumFaustum __BANNED USERS
    edited August 2007
    They have a thing for having a comparatively lame update after good updates, for example, see last week after the Pkmn Trainer/Demon combo

    so for tonight I'm calling music or an item

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    That Falcon Knee video is brilliant.

    Also someone calculate the number of updates left for us.

    The square root of that number is the number for awesome.

    74 or so, I believe.

    With a potential 9 new characters revealed assuming a release date in november for Japan.

    They have given more than one character a week before.

    They have also given less than one character a week before.

    We have a potential 74 new characters. We have a likely nine or ten.


    Touché

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  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS
    edited August 2007
    it doesn't matter if he updates beyond the japanese release. we will know all of the characters then

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bibble wrote: »
    it doesn't matter if he updates beyond the japanese release. we will know all of the characters then

    Not necessarily.


    What if the unannounced characters are unlockable characters? This could hide it for a little while longer, and if the unlocking was obscure enough on certain characters, it could delay their discovery beyond the 24 hours that some crazy Japanese kid will do to beat everything in the game and unlock everything before dying from not moving for anything including his house catching on fire.

  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    My prediction is going to be Luigi again.

    3DS 0302-0029-3193 NNID plufim steam plufim PSN plufim
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  • ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm going to predict something from Punch-Out

    Most likely an assist trophy but a character would be awesome

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Khavall wrote: »
    Bibble wrote: »
    it doesn't matter if he updates beyond the japanese release. we will know all of the characters then

    Not necessarily.


    What if the unannounced characters are unlockable characters? This could hide it for a little while longer, and if the unlocking was obscure enough on certain characters, it could delay their discovery beyond the 24 hours that some crazy Japanese kid will do to beat everything in the game and unlock everything before dying from not moving for anything including his house catching on fire.

    Take mewtwo for example which required 70 hours of play to unlock and G&W who couldn't be unlocked until you got mewtwo

  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS
    edited August 2007
    we will almost certainly know them all before the american release.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bibble wrote: »
    we will almost certainly know them all before the american release.

    Can we even guarantee that it'll be after the Japanese one?

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bibble wrote: »
    we will almost certainly know them all before the american release.

    Probably. Also I predict that there will be a drought on character announcements for a while, maybe 1 per 2 weeks or so, until we get closer to release, which is when they'll announce and B-move and Final smash with all of their updates, to get people really ramped up for the release.

    I'm just saying that a release wouldn't necessarily mean that we'd know all the characters.

  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User
    edited August 2007
    Arcibi wrote: »
    I'm going to predict something from Punch-Out

    Most likely an assist trophy but a character would be awesome

    Bald-Bull would rule.

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