Forum Themed M:tG Card Set 1st Post Updated!!

Pheezer

Okay, we're making a forums themed Magic: The Gathering core set.

Most of you should be familiar with the game. Well, we've found a program that lets you easily create custom cards. So what we're going to do is create Magic cards themed after forumers, forum events, forum bandwagons, all that sort of shit. The cards need to have useful game effects. They have to be like actual M:tG cards.


Make your cards according to the old, fourth edition era rules set. If you don't know what that means, just make the card and we'll fix it or exclude it if we have to. Prior to rendering and posting, please go to "Edit", "Set Options", "Graphics", and under "Card Style" select "Old Style Cards, Small".

First:
If you're unclear on rules, or the game itself, read this:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/rules/tourneyplayer

Second:
Now, go get this program:
http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/download.html


People, save your source files and MSE files and renders. Keep it all. We might need it down the road. Thanks.


Now there are five colours in M:tG, plus the non-coloured artifacts.
White Land Type cards will be themed after Help/Advice
Green Land Type cards will be themed after Games and Technology
Red Land Type cards will be themed after Debate and Discourse
Black Land Type cards will be themed after SE++
Blue Land Type cards will be themed after the Artist's Corner

Monkey Den themed cards should be Artifacts.


Now, just as Magic colours tend to have certain properties associated with them (illusion with blue, healing and defense with white, direct damage and destruction with red, undead swarms and pestilence with black, poison and natural forces with green), our cards for each colour should be themed after the forum associated with that colour.


Keep the interforum rivalry light hearted. Anyone using this as an opportunity to be a cock towards other forums and other forumers, rather than as part of a fun thing we're all going to do together, will get booted from it and if it gets excessive guilty parties will face jails and bans.

If you're going to make a card for a specific forumer, run it past them first and get their permission. As funny as it might be, cruelty will not fly here.



For the first couple of weeks we're going to just take submissions as they come. LINK YOUR CREATIONS, DO NOT POST INLINE OR IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO READ THIS THREAD.

Then we will disqualify obviously overpowered and unsuitable cards, and we will set quotas for card types to fill out a balanced core set.



We will later do themed expansions if this takes off. For now let's get cracking.


Imran's HIGHLY Important Program Notes:

Imran wrote:

Some notes on the program:

Unfortunately, it sticks a little "Created by:" thing at the bottom of every card and the default name is some guy who I'm relatively sure is either fictional or got beat up a lot on grade school. To change this, go to Edit -> Set Preferences and change the name. This has to be done everytime you close the program, so if you have a problem with the name, make sure to change it.

Secondly, to save an image, once you're finished, click "Render" at the top. It will pop-open a new window with your finished card. There's a save button right there that will only save the file as a bitmap. Yeah, bitmaps are huge, but pretty much any image program will convert them to JPG (without any quality loss) easily enough.

That should more or less be it. Have fun with it.

To upload files to the group FTP account for this project:

PikaPuff wrote:

OK! Everythings working (I think).

to upload: [url]ftp://pamtg:wangwang@guilder.dreamhost.com[/url] (IE is easier to use than firefox, sorry peeps. or just get your own ftp client program)

to view files: http://www.vgrants.com/pamtg

The D&D contingent has an important message:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=190107

The fine folks over at D&D are getting all the red cards in order, any and all red/D&D cards or ideas can be shuffled over there, and they will be dealt with in due time.

You may think it'd be helpful to compile an MSE and make your own cuts, and "fix" cards, and balance things, but it won't be. Don't do it. If you do it, don't post it here. I'll delete your posts, as will the other mods. Unless you have been asked to, and are a part of the committee that will be formed for this task, you are not helping, you are adding unnecessary confusion and should find a more productive way to contribute: Like making more cards.


Once we get around 200 solid cards, I'm going to get a few of you who've expressed interest to help me sort these out. We're going to fix any broken cards, correct grammar and so forth, and get stats for the number of cards of each colour, number of each type within each colour, and so forth. Then we'll know what we lack, and I'll lock this thread and push it to AFK for safe keeping.

Then we'll start a new one, with quotas and goals in mind to round out the set properly.

Pheezer

ShimSham wrote:

So if we made a card for a forumer, would it make sense to use their avatar? That's probably a dumb question.

It's really up to you, but yes, generally.

Zclyh

pheezer FD wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Now, a concern that I have is this: we know that some forumers are going to be made into cards, and seeing as there are a lot of people who want themselves (grammar problem) made into a card, how are we going to work around this little problem? And should we have a designated person/s handle the forumer cards?

We'll just let it happens as it happens. If there're four pheezers, I'll pick which three go on the disqualified list and which one stays. If there're 8 Zclyh's, you'd choose which 7 are booted. The forumer in question will choose, pending the ruling of our rules lawyers who'll judge if a card is inappropriate based on whether or not it violates the rules. Any cards which do that will be automatically disqualified.

Okay, I'm sorry to bug you again, pheezer, but you just made me think of something. Should people PM the forumer (whose card is being made) before actually making the card?

Chen

Are we going for the old style or the new style? I prefer the old style, but whatever gets your preference.

BahamutZERO

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Pheezer

Zclyh wrote:

pheezer FD wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Now, a concern that I have is this: we know that some forumers are going to be made into cards, and seeing as there are a lot of people who want themselves (grammar problem) made into a card, how are we going to work around this little problem? And should we have a designated person/s handle the forumer cards?

We'll just let it happens as it happens. If there're four pheezers, I'll pick which three go on the disqualified list and which one stays. If there're 8 Zclyh's, you'd choose which 7 are booted. The forumer in question will choose, pending the ruling of our rules lawyers who'll judge if a card is inappropriate based on whether or not it violates the rules. Any cards which do that will be automatically disqualified.

Okay, I'm sorry to bug you again, pheezer, but you just made me think of something. Should people PM the forumer (whose card is being made) before actually making the card?

That would be polite, but if you're relatively sure it won't be a problem, and your thread isn't called "TOTAL JACKASS FAGGOT" and has my picture on it, you'll be fine and the worst that'll happen is that your card won't make the official list. If you start making threads to specifically mock people without making sure it's cool with them first, expect to get in trouble for it.

Pheezer

Chen wrote:

Are we going for the old style or the new style? I prefer the old style, but whatever gets your preference.

Old style. 4th Edition era.

Chen

pheezer FD wrote:

Chen wrote:

Are we going for the old style or the new style? I prefer the old style, but whatever gets your preference.

Old style. 4th Edition era.

Cool. You better work on an expension symbol too.

Zclyh

Awesome. Thanks for answering my questions Pheezer. I appreciate it.

Also, anyone who makes the forumer cards, use whatever avatar they are most known for. There are quite a few forumers that change their avatars a quite often or have rotating avatars (alpha and Kilogre come to mind). Pick one if you can, or ask people for suggestions on which to use. And I don't mean to sound like a dick, but try to pick well known forumers, and don't forget to ask a person for their permission to use their likeness for a card.

BahamutZERO

Something to keep in mind about the colors is that they are each allied to 2 others and enemies to the remaining 2. White often has cards that have protection from black or red, green doesn't like blue and black, etc.


It's basically:

White: Likes Green and Blue, hates Black and Red
Blue: Likes White and Black, hates Red and Green.
Black: Likes Blue and Red, hates Green and White.
Red: Likes Black and Green, hates White and Blue.
Green: Likes Red and White, hates Blue and Black.

It isn't a huge deal, but it's basically the traditional rivalries between the colors.

Henroid

So I made a card just to test the water, and uh... I can't log into Photobucket.

ShimSham

I can't get the program to work, for some odd reason. But what is the recommended size of images that the style needs. I was going to work on some images and such but I'd rather not have to resize them, once I can get it to work, to avoid stretching.

Zclyh

Henroid wrote:

So I made a card just to test the water, and uh... I can't log into Photobucket.

Send it to me, bro. I'll host it.

BahamutZERO

BahamutZERO wrote:

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Is there any way, or will we have to do something ugly like " (2)(G)(G), Tap: "

Zclyh

Henroid's card

Henroid

ShimSham wrote:

I can't get the program to work, for some odd reason. But what is the recommended size of images that the style needs. I was going to work on some images and such but I'd rather not have to resize them, once I can get it to work, to avoid stretching.

When you're putting an image into the card, you have a choice for the program to stretch it to fit or you can move the image around in it's current size to show what you want of it.

TDL

pheezer FD wrote:

Chen wrote:

Are we going for the old style or the new style? I prefer the old style, but whatever gets your preference.

Old style. 4th Edition era.

Dammit pheezer, I've never said this before... but I love you. But mostly I love 4th edition magic.

So here is my Royal Assassin remix, Orthanc.

wait

EDIT: FUCK! Forgot flavor text.

omgboomlol

That card should be black. And have colored mana cost.

It has deni's quote on it, I mean. :o

BahamutZERO

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Mana cost is too low for that effect, and if it's a colored card I'm almost completely certain it must have at least one colored mana in its cost.
Also death cards are more Black's forte, Blue tends to have more tricky effects like "Return target to owner's hand."

BahamutZERO

BahamutZERO wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Mana cost is too low for that effect, and if it's a colored card I'm almost completely certain it must have at least one colored mana in its cost.
Also death cards are more Black's forte, Blue tends to have more tricky effects like "Return target to owner's hand."

Actually, I'm wrong, that is an OK cost. Here's a similar real card:

But it still needs at least 1 colored mana in its cost.

Zclyh

BahamutZERO wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Mana cost is too low for that effect, and if it's a colored card I'm almost completely certain it must have at least one colored mana in its cost.
Also death cards are more Black's forte, Blue tends to have more tricky effects like "Return target to owner's hand."

At least we have positive feedback. But, hey, at least someone can try to improve on whatever ideas/creations we come up with.

Pheezer

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Okay, problems:

Should be an artifact. You put it into play, and you have to tap it to put a counter on a target creature, then pay 2 mana to untap it. Each time a creature receives a counter it is tapped. Tapped creatures can also receive counters with no additional penalty. Once three counters are on a creature, you can tap the artifact to destroy that target creature. Call it the Ban Stick. The casting cost can be like 3 mana of any colour to bring it into play.

Fairly representative of the actual process.

The quote though, is great.

Henroid

Edit - Wait.

mrflippy

BahamutZERO wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Is there any way, or will we have to do something ugly like " (2)(G)(G), Tap: "

http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/faq.html

BahamutZERO

Here is a site with a lot of magic cards you can look at to see examples of real, balanced cards: http://www.adventureson.com/cgi-bin/shopping/ex_catshow.cgi?sid=A9H2bSiMmm&cat_id=1

Pheezer

pheezer FD wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Okay, problems:

Should be an artifact. You put it into play, and you have to tap it to put a counter on a target creature, then pay 2 mana to untap it. Each time a creature receives a counter it is tapped. Tapped creatures can also receive counters with no additional penalty. Once three counters are on a creature, you can tap the artifact to destroy that target creature. Call it the Ban Stick. The casting cost can be like 3 mana of any colour to bring it into play.

Fairly representative of the actual process.

The quote though, is great.

Actually, I'm going to make this exact card when I get home if no one else does first.

Henroid

pheezer FD wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Okay, problems:

Should be an artifact. You put it into play, and you have to tap it to put a counter on a target creature, then pay 2 mana to untap it. Each time a creature receives a counter it is tapped. Tapped creatures can also receive counters with no additional penalty. Once three counters are on a creature, you can tap the artifact to destroy that target creature. Call it the Ban Stick. The casting cost can be like 3 mana of any colour to bring it into play.

Fairly representative of the actual process.

The quote though, is great.

Can you type that up as the actual card effect text? :wink:

(glad you like the quote, I went digging through the "Who was banned" thread)

BahamutZERO

mrflippy wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Is there any way, or will we have to do something ugly like " (2)(G)(G), Tap: "

http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/faq.html

Ah, thanks.

Chen

Some ideas for guidelines I'm throwing around:

- A forumer should have the type Creature, a subtype can be thrown into the mix to make it more interesting. Mods should have Moderator as a subtype for example.

- Popular phrases/quotes are likely to be Instants, or Sorceries depending on the effect.

- Artifacts are physical items and are not organic.

- Enchantments and Enchant Creatures are, well, thingamijiggies that enchant you. Like... whale sperm?

ShimSham

Since I can't get the program to work and know nothing of Magic anyway. I'm going to do something I normally wouldn't and just allow myself open for artistic interpretation.

I'm offering my eternal love through the Internet if someone wanted to make a card for little ole me. :wink: Just based on the size of the other cards I made a hi-res image of my avatar that I'm hoping will fit.

It's up to you if you want to do this but I'll <3 you forever.

Here's the image Edit I resized it again.

Considering this post could possibly lead to a whole lot of people asking for cards to be made from them, feel free to delete this post if you want, Pheez.

Pheezer

Chen wrote:

Some ideas for guidelines I'm throwing around:

- A forumer should have the type Creature, a subtype can be thrown into the mix to make it more interesting. Mods should have Moderator as a subtype for example.

- Popular phrases/quotes are likely to be Instants, or Sorceries depending on the effect.

- Artifacts are physical items and are not organic.

- Enchantments and Enchant Creatures are, well, thingamijiggies that enchant you. Like... whale sperm?

I like these guidelines.

apotheos

This is from way back (what, was it 2 years ago when we last did this?).

Fortunatly the colour matches this colour scheme.



(back then we called it the Phorum, so thats a deliberate typo)

Henroid

Henroid wrote:

pheezer FD wrote:

Zclyh wrote:

Henroid's card

Okay, problems:

Should be an artifact. You put it into play, and you have to tap it to put a counter on a target creature, then pay 2 mana to untap it. Each time a creature receives a counter it is tapped. Tapped creatures can also receive counters with no additional penalty. Once three counters are on a creature, you can tap the artifact to destroy that target creature. Call it the Ban Stick. The casting cost can be like 3 mana of any colour to bring it into play.

Fairly representative of the actual process.

The quote though, is great.

Can you type that up as the actual card effect text? :wink:

(glad you like the quote, I went digging through the "Who was banned" thread)

Tap Ban Stick to place a counter on target creature. Must pay 2 mana to untap. Once three counters are placed on creature, tap Ban Stick to destroy target creature.

TDL

Orthanc

Slarti to follow, and I'm not vain enough to make myself.

EDIT: Just checked Royal Assassin, and I am going to go fix this card.

Zclyh

Chen wrote:

Some ideas for guidelines I'm throwing around:

- A forumer should have the type Creature, a subtype can be thrown into the mix to make it more interesting. Mods should have Moderator as a subtype for example.

- Popular phrases/quotes are likely to be Instants, or Sorceries depending on the effect.

- Artifacts are physical items and are not organic.

- Enchantments and Enchant Creatures are, well, thingamijiggies that enchant you. Like... whale sperm?

On that note, someone has to make a Sata Andagi card and a Pie! one. I would love you forever!

Pheezer

apotheos wrote:

This is from way back (what, was it 2 years ago when we last did this?).

Fortunatly the colour matches this colour scheme.



(back then we called it the Phorum, so thats a deliberate typo)

The card is broken, though. The "until end of turn" condition on the first ability would need to be removed.

BahamutZERO

BahamutZERO wrote:

mrflippy wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Is there any way, or will we have to do something ugly like " (2)(G)(G), Tap: "

http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/faq.html

Ah, thanks.

Wait, how do you do Blue and Black?

mrflippy

Are we going to have special card types? For example: Forumer, Game Console, Game? Then you could do stuff like "Search your library for a Forumer and put it into your hand" but it would work very well unless people made more than 1 or 2 of those types.

Imran

Zclyh wrote:

Chen wrote:

Some ideas for guidelines I'm throwing around:

- A forumer should have the type Creature, a subtype can be thrown into the mix to make it more interesting. Mods should have Moderator as a subtype for example.

- Popular phrases/quotes are likely to be Instants, or Sorceries depending on the effect.

- Artifacts are physical items and are not organic.

- Enchantments and Enchant Creatures are, well, thingamijiggies that enchant you. Like... whale sperm?

On that note, someone has to make a Sata Andagi card and a Pie! one. I would love you forever!

If you can type up some rules on Sata Andagi, I'll make it right now.

mrflippy

BahamutZERO wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

mrflippy wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

BahamutZERO wrote:

How do you insert graphics into the card text for things such as colored mana, colorless mana in various amounts, the variable amount of mana symbol, and the tap symbol?

Is there any way, or will we have to do something ugly like " (2)(G)(G), Tap: "

http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/faq.html

Ah, thanks.

Wait, how do you do Blue and Black?

Blue is usually "U" I think.

apotheos

pheezer FD wrote:

apotheos wrote:

This is from way back (what, was it 2 years ago when we last did this?).

Fortunatly the colour matches this colour scheme.



(back then we called it the Phorum, so thats a deliberate typo)

The card is broken, though. The "until end of turn" condition on the first ability would need to be removed.

Oh, I only intended it as a demo. I'd like to make a new one.

(Why is that broken? The ability changes a creatures type for the duration of a turn. The cost could be higher, but the cost on the secondary ability is where the real cost kicks in...needless to say I didn't really playtest it.)