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The G*T D&D M:tg collusion thread.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Ok, here's a few more. I split my Internet Research card into Google and Wikipedia because I had more stuff I wanted to do with it.

    Elisha Cuthbert
    Flame War
    Google
    Wikipedia

  • gibsgibs Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Needs more beer.

    Or to put that more eloquently, we need some kind of beer-related card so us aussies are properly represented.

  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Soviet Russia makes absolutly no sense, you cant tap players.
    It was a joke card really. :P

    Enchant thread(2,R,R,R)

    Whenever thread becomes tapped for mana, the owner of the thread skips the rest of their turn"

    "In Soviet Russia, Land Taps You!"

    I think that works a lot better, isnt game breaking, and makes fun of the whole "thread/land" issue

    Er, that card would be completely useless, because they would never tap that land. Essentially it's just an overpriced stone rain.
    What if that's the effect you wanted though?

    Then you would instead play with Sinkhole, Stone Rain, Winter's Grasp, etc etc etc etc. Like I said, at that point it's just horridly overpriced land destruction and wouldn't be played.
    But we don't have Sinkhole, Stone Rain, or Winter's Grasp in the PA edition.

  • aquabataquabat Registered User
    edited June 2005
    hahahaha faggotry!

    That picture sure does suck though... I gotta find a better one.

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Richy wrote:
    So what do all those circle pictograms mean?

    Also, to who to I email a pic of SimRichy? I've got this one, and a few others, including one of SimRichy using a computer and one of SimRichy dieing.


    ...
    Yes, I'm the kind of guy who spends hours making a sim of himself just to watch him die.

    Go to the first link in the first post, and then read the rules for magic, that should explain everything.

    Holy crap, I'm not reading a 102-page pdf to figure out what a damn pictogram means.

    Also, Salvation122, I've emailed you the pic. Can't pm it, for the same reason I couldn't just post the link here - I don't have a webspace accound handy. I should probably get one someday.

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    gibs wrote:
    Needs more beer.

    Or to put that more eloquently, we need some kind of beer-related card so us aussies are properly represented.

    An Aussie-beer card, and a Canadian-beer card <img class=" title=":mrgreen:" class="bbcode_smiley" />

    And an American-beer card, provided that it has a shitload of penalty pictograms. And if you can figure out a way to make it taiste like piss, that would help with realism :P

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  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    mrflippy wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Soviet Russia makes absolutly no sense, you cant tap players.
    It was a joke card really. :P

    Enchant thread(2,R,R,R)

    Whenever thread becomes tapped for mana, the owner of the thread skips the rest of their turn"

    "In Soviet Russia, Land Taps You!"

    I think that works a lot better, isnt game breaking, and makes fun of the whole "thread/land" issue

    Er, that card would be completely useless, because they would never tap that land. Essentially it's just an overpriced stone rain.
    What if that's the effect you wanted though?

    Then you would instead play with Sinkhole, Stone Rain, Winter's Grasp, etc etc etc etc. Like I said, at that point it's just horridly overpriced land destruction and wouldn't be played.
    But we don't have Sinkhole, Stone Rain, or Winter's Grasp in the PA edition.

    First off, there's nothing saying it won't be combined with real magic sets for apprentice games or whatever, and secondly we already do have some land destruction that duplicates the effects of those cards (Lock Thread, for instance). Besides "we don't have those cards" is a poor reason for making cards that are overpriced. We should probably utilize some of the 16-some-odd years of playtesting that WOTC has done, and assume that a 3-cost sorcery is pretty much the standard for "destroy target land".

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    This is the greatest thread EVER. I love this thread.

    Also, is there a way could stick in a Canadian Soft Lumber card?

    Effects: Causes all Richies on the playing field to be tapped for one turn. Or something like that. :twisted:

    Toldo wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Skinny guys fight till their burger. Screw debates lets have Barack Obama and Willard Romney rumble in the mofoing jungle.
    Obama punches Romney.
    "Okay, now wait a minute. You've had your turn. Let me have a turn. Wait a minute," Romney says.
    Obama punches Romney.
  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Also, we could use a Rambozo card. It should be a creature with the power to transform any thread into a religious thread.

    And how about a masturbation competition thread card?


    EDIT: and Rchanen's card should have the power to annoy mine.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    First off, there's nothing saying it won't be combined with real magic sets for apprentice games or whatever, and secondly we already do have some land destruction that duplicates the effects of those cards (Lock Thread, for instance). Besides "we don't have those cards" is a poor reason for making cards that are overpriced. We should probably utilize some of the 16-some-odd years of playtesting that WOTC has done, and assume that a 3-cost sorcery is pretty much the standard for "destroy target land".
    There are plenty of cards that WOTC puts out that are worse than older cards. Secondly, they're planning on balancing things like casting cost later. I say get out a bunch of ideas first and then whittle it down after that. I agree with you that there are quite a few imbalanced mana costs with the cards right now.

  • aquabataquabat Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Richy wrote:
    And how about a masturbation competition thread card?

    The land where girls fear to tread

  • HacksawHacksaw J Duggan Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited June 2005
    aquabat wrote:
    Richy wrote:
    And how about a masturbation competition thread card?

    The land where girls fear to tread

    Wimps.

  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Richy wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Richy wrote:
    So what do all those circle pictograms mean?

    Also, to who to I email a pic of SimRichy? I've got this one, and a few others, including one of SimRichy using a computer and one of SimRichy dieing.


    ...
    Yes, I'm the kind of guy who spends hours making a sim of himself just to watch him die.

    Go to the first link in the first post, and then read the rules for magic, that should explain everything.

    Holy crap, I'm not reading a 102-page pdf to figure out what a damn pictogram means.

    ElishaCuthbert.jpg

    The icons in the upper right corner are that card's casting cost. The flame circles mean red mana (D&D is the red theme for this) In Elisha's case, a player needs 2 red mana to cast her. You get mana by tapping land (threads in our PA version) D&D threads produce red mana, while G&T threads produce green mana, etc. The 1/1 in the bottom corner is Power/Toughness. Power is attack power, and toughness is analogous to hit points.

  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    First off, there's nothing saying it won't be combined with real magic sets for apprentice games or whatever, and secondly we already do have some land destruction that duplicates the effects of those cards (Lock Thread, for instance). Besides "we don't have those cards" is a poor reason for making cards that are overpriced. We should probably utilize some of the 16-some-odd years of playtesting that WOTC has done, and assume that a 3-cost sorcery is pretty much the standard for "destroy target land".
    There are plenty of cards that WOTC puts out that are worse than older cards. Secondly, they're planning on balancing things like casting cost later. I say get out a bunch of ideas first and then whittle it down after that. I agree with you that there are quite a few imbalanced mana costs with the cards right now.

    It'd really just be easier to fix them as we go, rather than to try and fix them all at the end.

    Also, my favorite!

    Global Warming
    EDIT: fixed the link... silly paintbrush and it's capitalized file extensions.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Also, yeah.

    My Card should have the "Canada Sucks" power. Which gives me the ability to draw attacks from Richies.

    But Mr. Flippy's Elisha Cuthbert card for the win.

    Toldo wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Skinny guys fight till their burger. Screw debates lets have Barack Obama and Willard Romney rumble in the mofoing jungle.
    Obama punches Romney.
    "Okay, now wait a minute. You've had your turn. Let me have a turn. Wait a minute," Romney says.
    Obama punches Romney.
  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    First off, there's nothing saying it won't be combined with real magic sets for apprentice games or whatever, and secondly we already do have some land destruction that duplicates the effects of those cards (Lock Thread, for instance). Besides "we don't have those cards" is a poor reason for making cards that are overpriced. We should probably utilize some of the 16-some-odd years of playtesting that WOTC has done, and assume that a 3-cost sorcery is pretty much the standard for "destroy target land".
    There are plenty of cards that WOTC puts out that are worse than older cards. Secondly, they're planning on balancing things like casting cost later. I say get out a bunch of ideas first and then whittle it down after that. I agree with you that there are quite a few imbalanced mana costs with the cards right now.

    It'd really just be easier to fix them as we go, rather than to try and fix them all at the end.
    Yeah, probably. I have a feeling we're going to have to stop accepting new cards at some point and overhaul a bunch in any case though, if only so everything fits the theme correctly.

  • aquabataquabat Registered User
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    The icons in the upper right corner are that card's casting cost. The flame circles mean red mana (D&D is the red theme for this) In Elisha's case, a player needs 2 red mana to cast her. You get mana by tapping land (threads in our PA version) D&D threads produce red mana, while G&T threads produce green mana, etc. The 1/1 in the bottom corner is Power/Toughness. Power is attack power, and toughness is analogous to hit points.

    So how strong would be 4/3 be?

  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA
    edited June 2005
    Guys, before you give any credence whatsoever to what InsanityInc is saying, please at least familiarize yourselves with the first post of the official thread, and the last few pages of it. Try to keep up on that thread, even if you do most of your work in here.

    IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
    CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
  • RchanenRchanen Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    The Global Warming card should also somehow affect Cat cards. Since she gets really mad a people over global warming. :twisted:

    Toldo wrote:
    Preacher wrote:
    Skinny guys fight till their burger. Screw debates lets have Barack Obama and Willard Romney rumble in the mofoing jungle.
    Obama punches Romney.
    "Okay, now wait a minute. You've had your turn. Let me have a turn. Wait a minute," Romney says.
    Obama punches Romney.
  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA
    edited June 2005
    aquabat wrote:
    mrflippy wrote:
    The icons in the upper right corner are that card's casting cost. The flame circles mean red mana (D&D is the red theme for this) In Elisha's case, a player needs 2 red mana to cast her. You get mana by tapping land (threads in our PA version) D&D threads produce red mana, while G&T threads produce green mana, etc. The 1/1 in the bottom corner is Power/Toughness. Power is attack power, and toughness is analogous to hit points.

    So how strong would be 4/3 be?

    It would be a powerful attacker and a solid defender.

    IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
    CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    pheezer FD wrote:
    Guys, before you give any credence whatsoever to what InsanityInc is saying, please at least familiarize yourselves with the first post of the official thread, and the last few pages of it. Try to keep up on that thread, even if you do most of your work in here.

    Credence to what I'm saying? Do you honestly think that 2RRR for a stone rain is a card that anybody would play? I'm coming from 9 years or so of playing magic, and can tell you that nobody would play it in a constructed environment.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Hows about we delete the last post and the one it quotes and we get back to business.

    I will take care of this tread, and am making constant changes to the first post as well as comenting on card power. I think insanity was right, 2,r,r,r was too much, i changed it to 1,r,r. Which, if we have any cards that will force tap for mana, might need to be raised higher (or it could be changed to "skip next turn"

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Rchanen wrote:
    The Global Warming card should also somehow affect Cat cards. Since she gets really mad a people over global warming. :twisted:

    And also occupy or paralize all right-winger's cards for one turn, as they have to respond about how it doesn't really exist.

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  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Richy wrote:
    Rchanen wrote:
    The Global Warming card should also somehow affect Cat cards. Since she gets really mad a people over global warming. :twisted:

    And also occupy or paralize all right-winger's cards for one turn, as they have to respond about how it doesn't really exist.

    We'll just give myself and ElJeffe "Protection from Global Warming".

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Goum: In the first post, Elisha Cuthbert links to Religious Thread, and the link for Flame War is broken. The Internet Research card should be removed as Google and Wikipedia replaced it.

    Edit: Changed Flame War

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    It might fit in "derail", but we should have a sorcery called "is atheism a religion" and another called "what's the difference between atheism and agnostism". Their power is to instantly destroy a religious thread.

    In the same vein, the "Bush is evil!!" and "Clinton lied!!" sorceries that can destroy a political thread instantly.

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  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2005
    In addition, we need a "That's what Hitler did" card that taps the target thread.

  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    Goum: In the first post, Elisha Cuthbert links to Religious Thread, and the link for Flame War is broken. The Internet Research card should be removed as Google and Wikipedia replaced it.

    Edit: Changed Flame War

    Fixed, also

    Flame war should always add red mana.
    Doc wrote:
    In addition, we need a "That's what Hitler did" card that taps the target thread.

    We already have a "Godwin" card, title that can change, which destroys a thread.
    Richy wrote:
    It might fit in "derail", but we should have a sorcery called "is atheism a religion" and another called "what's the difference between atheism and agnostism". Their power is to instantly destroy a religious thread.

    In the same vein, the "Bush is evil!!" and "Clinton lied!!" sorceries that can destroy a political thread instantly.

    Fits under "Derail", we mention athiesm and religion in that vien already, and their power is too specific and mainly useless.

    Similar for "Bush is evil/Clinton Lied!"

    IRT: Ad-Hominem. We already have "logical fallacy" No need to get into specifics.

    I think that "Athiest Manifesto" might be a good card(for the rambozo mention). Which instantly turns an thread into a "religious thread"

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Doc wrote:
    In addition, we need a "That's what Hitler did" card that taps the target thread.

    We already have a "Godwin" card, title that can change, which destroys a thread.

    So we do. Nevermind, then.

  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Environmentalism Thread

    EDIT: eye kant spel

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    "

    IRT: Ad-Hominem. We already have "logical fallacy" No need to get into specifics.

    Eh, I just figured we needed more direct damage cards.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Environmentalism Thread

    EDIT: eye kant spel

    Most broken land evar.

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  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Environmentalism Thread

    EDIT: eye kant spel

    Most broken land evar.

    Nah, there's way better ones than that from back in the old days.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Similar for "Bush is evil/Clinton Lied!"
    I had to make this card though....
    Clinton Lied!/Bush is Evil!

  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    In retrospect, I changed the number of lock counters that environmentalism thread comes with to 1. So it locks up red creatures for 2 turns.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    mrflippy wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Similar for "Bush is evil/Clinton Lied!"
    I had to make this card though....
    Clinton Lied!/Bush is Evil!

    Winnar.

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    "

    IRT: Ad-Hominem. We already have "logical fallacy" No need to get into specifics.

    Eh, I just figured we needed more direct damage cards.

    We have two, and a multiplier. but lets make derail another.


    Flame (as fireball)
    Zing(as lightning bolt)
    Derail (target player takes 1-2 damage for every land tapped)
    Multi-post(duplicate last instant or sorcery played[kicker: Tripple last instant/sorc][kicker2: quadruple last instant/sorc])

    That should be enough, and then lots of forumers.

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  • InsanityIncInsanityInc Registered User
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    "

    IRT: Ad-Hominem. We already have "logical fallacy" No need to get into specifics.

    Eh, I just figured we needed more direct damage cards.

    We have two, and a multiplier. but lets make derail another.


    Flame (as fireball)
    Zing(as lightning bolt)
    Derail (target player takes 1-2 damage for every land tapped)
    Multi-post(duplicate last instant or sorcery played[kicker: Tripple last instant/sorc][kicker2: quadruple last instant/sorc])

    That should be enough, and then lots of forumers.

    Not sure that'll be enough, considering I think we're making a core set (350 cards, if I recall), not an expansion (though expansions are still, what, 165?)

    Martman wrote:
    Poldy wrote:
    Would you be pissed if your children did not love you, because they thought they were the ones being rational?
    Not if I hid from my children and beat them occasionally.
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited June 2005
    Goumindong wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    "

    IRT: Ad-Hominem. We already have "logical fallacy" No need to get into specifics.

    Eh, I just figured we needed more direct damage cards.

    We have two, and a multiplier. but lets make derail another.


    Flame (as fireball)
    Zing(as lightning bolt)
    Derail (target player takes 1-2 damage for every land tapped)
    Multi-post(duplicate last instant or sorcery played[kicker: Tripple last instant/sorc][kicker2: quadruple last instant/sorc])

    That should be enough, and then lots of forumers.

    Not sure that'll be enough, considering I think we're making a core set (350 cards, if I recall), not an expansion (though expansions are still, what, 165?)

    We have lots of creature removal though.

    Maybe another 1 or 2 DD cards, but i think we shouldnt be ultra specific, espeicaly with logical fallacies. There are just too many.

    As for the EV thread, i think its covered well enough by Global Warming.

    edit: most full sets dont have more than 2-4 direct damage per color, even red.

    revised had what? Lightning Bolt, Fireball and what else?

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