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Is Windows Vista worth it?
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If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
Oh, I know. She's a fucking retard for buying a laptop without any knowledge of what she was doing beforehand. It would run a hell of a lot better on my machine, with a high end c2d and 4 gigs of RAM.
my advise is open your box up, find out the name of the ram... go online, and get the voltage and timing from the official website and manually set them in the bios.. see if that gets rid of the problem.
the video card.. goto guru3d and download and use driver cleaner to make sure everything is gone and get the latest beta driver from nvidia. not sure if it will help or not, but would be worth a try.
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I always think the solution to closing the program is to close the program.
It's a pretty minor nuisance, I'd just like to know what it's good for?
Right now the only thing that would ever make me switch to Vista is if it was A) free or B) completely necessary. It's not? Then pass.
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Vista won't play restricted HD content without having properly certified hardware, and will apparently artificiallly reduce the quality if the DRM certificates and all that don't match.
This is HD content that won't play on any previous OS; in order to get support MS put in the DRM system. It would have been awesome if the company threw its weight around to try to bully the content providers, but this didn't happen.
Some Crazy Internet Guy in New Zealand (or something) wrote an article about how this DRM was over-the-top industry changing 1984 stuff, and would destroy the next generation of PC computing by utterly crushing any performance under Vista. Oddly, his predictions have yet to hold true, especially as we see Vista performing better than XP on new hardware in a maturing environment. Still, whenever anyone talks about the EVIL PERFORMANCE-CHOKING DRM IN VISTA they refer back to this article (or newsgroup post).
Nope, I'm running an Opteron system with Vista Business, and it's been running fine since launch.
I built an AMD system for a friend in June, and it's been running fine also.
Either something went horribly wrong with a part in your system, or your "idiot co-workers" screwed your system royally.
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It's the completely opposite for me. I'm also dual-booting, but I haven't used Vista in months now. Dreamscene crashed once and refuses to work anymore, if you don't specifically install a game with Vista it will not run it (unlike XP where often you can just run the game from it's folder without any entries in the registry or anything), and occasionally it will crash. A lot of my programs either do not run or run badly on it. I still see no reason to use it and soon enough I'm going to be using Partition Magic to claim back some of that space for my XP installation, which is in bad need of it.
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I'm in a wheelchair, so I can't physically open the box myself. I'm going to ask my co-workers today about the brand they used.
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Vista for $100+ = totally not worth it
I never put out money for a new OS until at least the first service pack is released.
Does anyone else remember how PO'd we were with XP when it first released because it was buggy and bloated with graphics and our Win98 games sometimes wouldn't work because the "compatibility mode" was a shot in the dark?
Now here we are, talking like XP was the greatest thing ever and we refuse that Vista could be any better. It hasn't even been out for a year, the first service pack hasn't been officially released yet, and it's pretty. Of course machines that weren't built for it (and underpowered machines that are sold as if they were built for it) are not going to run it well.
It's just a wait and see situation, but if you can get it cheap or free, then it's worth it, even if you don't install it for a while.
I got my copies of XP Pro through MS retail site for $10ea. I waited until SP1 came out and then installed it. I plan on doing the same (though I need to find a new way to get Vista cheap as I no longer work retail) this time around. I just am not paying $100+ for an OS.
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1. Its Beautiful in terms of the interface.
2. I think it has better indexing, once you get used to it.
3. Free.
Major Cons:
1. The mac commercial is right. It doesn't do anything without your sayso.
2. Windows defender is a fucking nazi whore.
3. Windows Vista HATES old games.
In early July I got myself the following -
Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHz 4mb cache
2GB PC6400 Corsair XMS
GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB
This was basically built for Vista and DirectX 10 games. I've seen no reason to use it yet, and when I do, it's buggy and crashes every now and then, most of my programs won't work properly, and it won't shut up whenever I try to run anything... yes, you can turn it off, but it's several layers deep. And yes, I remember that it took XP a while to get into it's stride, too, but Microsoft should have released Vista when it was ready, not a year early and bugged to high heaven.
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(Had to help my sister with her new laptop. Computers apparently only comes in Vista flavor these days)
So you hated it before you used it and your suspicions were confirmed. Sweet.
If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
It was released on time; the fuck up was in preparing the rest of the industry for a massive difference. A whole new driver model and admin restriction fuck with just about everything out there. I think the worst part is dx10 drivers... you get *nothing*, apparently, by trying to run dx10 right now. Nvidia's suck, and ATI doesn't even have functional drivers yet.
Despite the final version being ready in October or so of last year, no one seemed prepared. Hell, it took Dell until May of this year to have working printer drivers for some models.
Vista's actually quite stable and polished (not without flaws, but better than any previous Windows release... ok, maybe not polished...), it was just shoved into an ecosystem that hadn't had to adapt to a new OS for almost a decade.
And Vista could not connect to the 802.1x network where my Win XP and Ubuntu on the same laptop had no problem. A reset to factory defaults did fix it, but the experience sealed the deal on upgrading to Linux instead of Vista next time I switch OS.
Wasn't there a whole raft of important upgrades that were cut from Vista half a year before launch? Like the new file system to replace NTFS and more like that...?
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Now I'm not saying Vista is completely worthless, I'm saying it's another ME, and I really think for the average user or gamer, it just isn't worth it as an OS (yet), I've yet to see anyone really point out the definite advantages it has over XP, or even 2000, that can justify its price. For power users, perhaps there is a difference, I haven't really seen it. But spare me the flames, I'll fully admit that Vista could be a great OS given a little time, but I think everybody here would agree with me that it is overpriced, was way behind schedule and over budget, and Microsoft could have did much much better with it.
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I don't understand the confusion about versions, either;
XP Home - Basic
XP Media Center - Premium
XP Pro - Business
Pro + Media Center - Ultimate
Is it really that confusing?
And, for the most part, I agree about upgrading. It's not really worth the cost to go out and buy an upgrade product, even with the actual improvements (and no, the goddamn interface isn't an improvement... why do people keep going back to this?) Going forward, though, the choices for me would be OS X or Vista for a new machine, not XP.
you forgot that there's 32 bit and 64 bit versions of each of those... so that's 8 versions to choose from
They're not sold as separate versions though... Ultimate comes with both disks, and the other versions let you order the other media kits. Retail, at least. OEM is different, but that's determined by OEMs; they're not packaged products.
But, uh, that still shouldn't be confusing.
I feel as consumers we're getting the shaft with Vista, MS is fairly quickly losing ground on the PC front, if game developers move back to OpenGL because of this DX10 lock-in MS pulled, or Apple and Linux builds like Ubuntu continue making significant OS progress, they are going to continue feeling the heat. I personally feel that Vista is a perfect example (much like the total lack of innovation in the later IE versions once netscape died) of what happens when your only competition as a company is yourself.
Microsoft's biggest strength (diverse options for everyone) is also the biggest weakness, especially on a consumer front. To the average home user, options are mutually exclusive to simplicity. Four versions of Windows forces a choice (not to mention OEM, Retail, etc...), while OS X comes with your PC.
I also think Vista was made for tomorrow's machines, not today's (except, maybe, top of the line). MS didn't really set that expectation, though, which was a huge mistake.
This is why Apple is trying to market it's stuff as 'hip' more and more instead of "easy for stupid people".
Yes... if you can't decide which version of Windows to buy .... you should get a Mac. But those people won't be around much longer.
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Having done 2 in place upgrades to Vista Business, I can say that it works very well but takes forever. My brother did a clean install in 22 minutes. My upgrade took 4.5 hours.
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People keep posting about drivers not being available. If you're gonna go the Vista route stick to 32-bit for now I guess.
If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
Two questions.
1. Is this only a gaming machine? If so Vista Biz OEM allows you to downgrade with an existing XP disk and key; XP now, Vista when drivers don't suck ass for no extra cost.
2. Will you ever need to connect to a server domain, schedule automatic backups, or have a flashy animated background? If none of those, you won't need Business or Ultimate (except for the above).
Just keep in mind that OEMs probably won't offer 64-bit Home Premium, and the retail one makes you order a separate disk. And I don't think support is that great for 64 bit OSes yet.
32 bit for now is the accepted route I would say.
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Vista was successfully infected by a 13 year old boot-sector virus.
Anyone who says it's more secure is just silly, as of this moment.
The fault is on the software, not the OS. The OS is not some omnipotent turing-test-passing entity. You can't expect the OS to protect you from every little contingency.
At all.