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Why yes. Just a single personal anecdote. Combined with well documented incident(s) in Jena, and now another down the road as well. And I'm sure if we started digging we could find some more, too.
Are you arguing that northern Louisiana isn't a racist shithole, or just that my personal anecdote isn't part of this larger trend?
Did...did you just use PVP to describe an actual, real life fight?
Sorry, I'm English which makes me to cheeky sometimes. What I meant to say was, "Dude it was a fucking BRAWL, son!"
If the intent had been to scare all the white people in town into line, and let them know "better not be out after dark, whitey," it would be a hate crime. I think it's pretty clear that the intent in this case was just to beat down an asshole who was talking shit.
As for a concussion being "serious," yeah, it can be, but if he was at a school function later that night, clearly it wasn't a bad one. And what about the people who hung up the nooses on a tree, or the white kid who brandished a fucking gun? Why aren't they being charged with anything?
And I don't think anyone here is arguing that the Jena 6 should get off scott free; however, the provocations of the other people involved should most definitely be taken into account as a mitigating factor. If I'm yelling racial slurs at a guy, and he beats me up, it's treated differently than if he just ran up behind me and clocked me for no reason, even if he does the same amount of damage.
I don't know I haven't been there, but unless two towns make up the entire area I don't think that these incidents are enough to say "hey man if you came from nothern louisianna you are most likely a rascist". It just comes off as I dunno prejudicial? Isn't that a bad thing to judge a group of people without knowing them?
i think he's arguing that anecdotal evidence is basically bullshit.
Three towns, now, including my anecdote.
Also, I'm not making the claim that every person in northern LA, or who has ever lived there, is a racist. If I said that, it would be prejudicial. But I don't think that at this point claiming that there might just be a fuckload of virulently racist fuckwads in northern LA isn't necessarily controversial.
EDIT: And yes, anecdotal evidence is generally bullshit. Especially on its own. But again, I'm thinking that perhaps my anecdote really is part of a larger trend. Especially now that we include Than's post. I'll ask again, who here is making the claim that northern Louisiana isn't a racist shithole?
I am not saying what is going on isn't bullshit. I just don't like the prejudice used in response as if that is justified. Nietzsche had a quote that applies here.
No. I'd just assume that he came from a racist shithole. Any individual might not be racist, and rather than make the assumption I'd just wait a short time to figure it out. It probably wouldn't take long to become apparent...as my anecdote might suggest (but certainly not prove, for you nitpicking "anecdotal OLOL" types), they aren't exactly shy about the racism down there.
"Maybe" because even most retards could probably figure it out.
And I'll repeat: three towns, including my anecdote. And given the results of that election that Than gave, it's probably not localized to those three towns, either. Or do you not consider that part of the trend, either?
Except that I've met plenty of black people that are nothing like what you see in rap videos. Yet I've never been to a South that wasn't...well, the South.
And yes, I've been to the South outside of that one experience in Louisiana.
Which is why I generalize about the region, not every individual person in the region.
Then again, if you're a racist in Atlanta, you have a death wish.
Anyway, it was like that back when I lived in Mississippi (when I was a kid). People threw the N-word around like it was nothing. It was awful.
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Sarcasm.
Whoops I should have read that more closely. I guess I'm tired right now
I hate to think that all it would take would be "a few too many" for people to turn into racists and put on a display like this. I wonder what all her supposed black friends think of this...
So my general question is why don't more black people try to move out of the South? I mean I know that there's some racism everywhere, but it's got to be better up North or out West (I mean outside LA and San Diego).
I live in Toronto, Canada. Toronto is a very non-racist area (generally speaking). The whole city is a melange of black, white, asian, whatever. No one cares what race you are (again, generally speaking).
The business I work with just opened a store in Nashville, and my boss invited the manager there up to Toronto for training and whatnot. Walking from the store to a restaurant for lunch, we (boss, Nashville manager, and I) passed a park, which had a bunch of local highschool kids hanging out in it. The Nashville manager said out loud, "Wow, look at all the n*****s!". My boss and I were pretty stunned...
On that note, I'm glad I live where I do!
As for why black people in general stay down here, I figure it's probably the same reasons anyone stays down here; ties to the land, family roots, not knowing or wanting to take the chance on a new region where you have no ties. My family, as far back as we've traced it, goes back to post Reconstruction and has been in Texas since then. I'm sure I could make my way in a northern city, but almost my entire family lives in one southern state or another. It's just easier for me to stay in the Southeast so I can be close to both my and my wife's family. Opportunity isn't exactly lacking down here either, so I don't really have any economic incentives to get away.
Also, I know I said it applied to southern blacks, but I imagine what I said about our expectation of white people showing their true feelings about race almost certainly applies to black Americans in general.
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I wish I had friends who would allow me to be a racist douchebag.
When I lived in the 'hood in DC and was pretty much the only white kid in the neighborhood I lived in, my neighbors were more open and accommodating, but I suspect it had to do with the fact that I was really solidly in their element and out of mine.
The way white and black people relate to each other in this country bothers me a lot, but god damned if I really know what to do about it, especially on a personal level.
That there is pretty diffrent than covering yourself with mud and posing in some stereotypical black manner and taking pictures though.
But yeah, I do wonder about most white people though like, do they see me as some guy or some black guy, with all the negative baggage that comes with that?
VBakes, I'm not exactly gonna be punching anyone in the face, but I know what you're getting at. For me, I've yet to have a white friend that'd slip up like that. Not that it matters, seeing as I'm pretty up front about my intolerance for that sort of thing. Besides, I don't need someone to say the N word to tip me off towards their thoughts on race; most people give that sort of info away way before it ever gets to that.
Except it really isn't. A good example of this is the massive fights over mandatory bussing in Boston. If you read up on sundown towns, you'll find that most of them weren't in the South.
Actually, in a way, the problems with racism are better in the South, because they're out in the open. In a lot of other areas, they're secrets that nobody wants to talk about.
I'm just trying to get to your point.
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Now, there's some weird elements of racism that are much more open between whites v. Asians, and in particular whites v. Latinos, but as far as that deep-seated, generational, family bred and widely accepted hatred that seems to fester in the South, it just doesn't exist on the West Coast.
To steal a line/idea from David Cross: segregated graveyards. It's like they are envisioning everyone rising for the zombie apocalypse and they still want to keep the colored people out.