So seriously. Ill make a new thread when they hit if people want. This old one is so bloated now and new NPDs is a perfect opportunity for a new thread. This thread could potentially hit 200 pages before the november dicussion is over. we need a new one.
Wait wait wait. So the PS3 is probably in the 400,000 range?
Wasn't there a Sony exec loudly saying they were selling 200,000 per week this month?
Were his pants on fire when he said that, by any chance?
In other news, goddamn that's a lotta consoles.
Nope, the person that quoted the article was an idiot and didn't even read it properly. Sony said they're selling 200k a week in Europe, the only US-related sales news was that they sold 200k after Black Friday.
Also, jesus christ you guys are getting as bad as Neogaf. The numbers are pretty interesting but you guys are anticipating it as if it's the highlight of your week or something.
HARDWARE:
Nintendo DS -- 1,530,000
Wii -- 981,000
Xbox 360 -- 770,000
PlayStation Portable -- 567,000
PlayStation 2 -- 496,000
PlayStation 3 -- 466,000
SOFTWARE:
1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Xbox 360) -- 1,570,000
2. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) -- 1,120,000
3. Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360) -- 980,000
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PlayStation 2) -- 967,000
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) -- 564,000
6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PlayStation 3) -- 444,000
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Wii) -- 426,000
9. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) -- 387,000
10. Assassin's Creed (PlayStation 3) -- 377,000
So the November numbers are in, and honestly they’re rather unexciting. I was hoping for more surprises, but oh well, there’s always December. NPD’s November is a four week retail month covering the time period from Sunday, November 4th through Saturday, December 1st. That makes the numbers directly comparable to October’s, although given that December is a five week month I still prefer working with weekly averages. As a reminder, here are October’s numbers, with the weekly averages in parentheses.
So that’s the warm-up. Now let’s move onto the new material.
First, I wanted to make a quite note about November. Historically, November has shown an increase of roughly 2.5-3.5 over the previous month’s numbers as purchases ramp up for the holiday shopping season. So keep that in mind as we look at these numbers and their seemingly huge jump over October.
DS: 1,530,000 (382,500) I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this represents the biggest November in history. Simply phenomenal. Although the DS didn’t chart any software in the top 10, this is unsurprising given that it didn’t have any big releases and the top 10 is mostly filled with new software (the immovable Wii Play being the sole exception). I suspect that if you could peak deeper into the software charts you’d see them packed with DS titles.
Wii: 981,000 (245,250) Frankly, I’m rather underwhelmed. After the announcement that they sold 650,000 Wiis in the two weeks surrounding Black Friday I was expecting them to break a million easily. Instead they sold well over 2/3 of their monthly sales in just two weeks. Don’t get me wrong, these are still some excellent numbers, and the continued legs on Guitar Hero 3 shows that it wasn’t just a flash in the pan, but I expected more. Otherwise, it’s business as usual. The smaller-than-expected boost from November sales come, as usual from the fact that the system is still supply-constrained. Demand is there, but the systems aren’t. And, to the best of my knowledge, even the PS2 only had one November where it broke a million, so maybe I’m asking too much. Maybe I’m quibbling over 19,000 units, and these are great numbers, but despite all of that I can’t help feeling like they should have been higher.
360: 770,000 (192,500) Again I’m rather underwhelmed. Admittedly the tail end of Halo 3’s launch boosted the 360 above what it otherwise would have been in October, but what we’re seeing here is definitely on the low side of the typical November sales boost. These aren’t bad numbers at all, and software is obviously still selling ridiculously well, but I find it somewhat concerning that the 360 couldn’t beat the supply-constrained Wii in the second biggest month of the year. If MS wants to keep that gap from its inevitable closing as long as possible, this ain’t the way to do it.
PSP: 567,000 (141,650) If I found the 360’s hardware sales mediocre, that goes double for the PSP. Well not quite double, since the PSP didn’t even double its sales month-to-month. And as usual software is nowhere to be found. My suspicion remains that when this handheld generation plays out, the PSP will find itself relegated to the dustbin of history; a platform whose decent hardware sales can’t hide the fact that software is a black hole.
PS2: 496,000 (124,000) Under half a million in November. Despite the strong sales of GH 3 showing that the PS2’s installed base can still move software in huge numbers when motivated to do so, the system is definitely on its way out. It’s lasted far longer than anybody could have expected, but at this point in the US the 360 and Wii have clearly taken the torch while the PS2 continues its slow fade into legend.
PS3: 466,000 (116,500) Under most circumstances, I’d be astonished by these numbers. In a November when most systems landed well under the lost end of the 2.5-3.5 multiplier usually seen, the PS3 managed to nearly quadruple its sales. So why are these numbers still extremely disappointing? Because they’re being influenced by November AND an additional price cut. This isn’t November in a vacuum. There were external influences that helped move those hardware sales higher still, and the combined impact was impressive only when compared to the absolute disaster that previous sales had been. In the larger market it was still the worst-selling system last month, it still can’t beat the system it ostensibly replaced, and it’s didn’t even sell 60% as much as the 360 (much less the Wii). Oh, and its only two software titles to that the top 10 were multiplatform games that sold 3 times as many on the 360. The big 1st party exclusive? Crash and burn. There’s not a lot to like here. The PS3 at best was treading water this month.
Finally a few other notes on software. What happened to the 360 version of GH 3? After GH 2 on the 360 showed very impressive legs, GH 3 seems to have followed the more common 360 pattern of a huge first month followed by plummeting sales thereafter (also seen with Madden 08 where the 360 version sold best in August but got trounced by the PS2 on September). The Wii version actually INCREASED its sales from last month (although it also had four weeks to sell instead of just a few days) and the PS2’s sales rose astronomically. The PS2 is not the dominant console by any stretch, but it’s still very relevant. Mario Galaxy did very well, charting at number 2, and if New Super Mario Bros. on the DS was any indication, this game will have legs that go into the next time zone. COD4 may well not even chart in December, but I suspect that Galaxy will barely drop off at all. I truly wouldn’t be surprised if it actually sold more in December than November. Mass Effect on the 360 had a nice debut, particularly for a fairly niche title without a huge franchise backing it up. Bioware is definitely big enough to launch a game all on their own. Pity EA had to buy them up. That’s truly a loss for the gaming industry at large.
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Go ahead, once the numbers come out.
We need a new thread.
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This made me laugh much harder than it should have
:P
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the ps3 outsold everything and the server exploded from shock
Mine were:
Wii: 1M
DS: 1.2M
360: 650k
PSP: 500k
PS3: 400k
Hahahah.. good God.. this is hilarious.
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I lurked there for awhile...didn't really like it.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165014
Also: holy fucking shit at the numbers.
Dont post here. go there.
Right now about 500 people are viewing G&T and 3,000 are on the GAF video game forum
Wyborn:
Wii: 1,100k
360: 800k
PS3: 500k
PSP: 600k
DS: uh... 1,800k?
Scarab:
Im predicting
[360]600k
[PS3]450k
[PSP]200k
[Wii] 1000k
[DS] Trinidad and Tobago
myself, slash000:
Wii: 1M
DS: 1.2M
360: 650k
PSP: 500k
PS3: 400k
Xagarath:
Wii: 900k
DS: 1,100K
360: 550K
PS3: 300K
PSP: 500K
Urahonky
Wii: 860K
DS: 1M
360: 530K
PS3: 280K
PSP: 410K
PS2: 280K
Dr Mario Kart
[360]700k
[PS3]400k
[PS2]401k
[PSP]450k
[Wii] 1000k
[DS] 1200k
jean
[360]750k
[PS3]375k
[PS2]500k
[PSP]500k
[Wii] 1100k
[DS] 1350k
bigwah
[DS] 1400k
[Wii] 1200k
[360] 700k
[PSP] 600k
[PS3] 400k
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GAF is gigantic, probably one of the biggest ones out there.
I believe the PA forums are on the low end of "big".
where's scarab?
# PlayStation 3 -- 466,000
# PlayStation Portable -- 567,000
# Xbox 360 -- 770,000
# Wii -- 981,000
# Nintendo DS -- 1,530,000
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2. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) -- 1,120,000
3. Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360) -- 980,000
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PlayStation 2) -- 967,000
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) -- 564,000
6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PlayStation 3) -- 444,000
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Wii) -- 426,000
9. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) -- 387,000
10. Assassin's Creed (PlayStation 3) -- 377,000
Got'em. :P
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Nope, the person that quoted the article was an idiot and didn't even read it properly. Sony said they're selling 200k a week in Europe, the only US-related sales news was that they sold 200k after Black Friday.
Also, jesus christ you guys are getting as bad as Neogaf. The numbers are pretty interesting but you guys are anticipating it as if it's the highlight of your week or something.
HARDWARE:
Nintendo DS -- 1,530,000
Wii -- 981,000
Xbox 360 -- 770,000
PlayStation Portable -- 567,000
PlayStation 2 -- 496,000
PlayStation 3 -- 466,000
SOFTWARE:
1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Xbox 360) -- 1,570,000
2. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) -- 1,120,000
3. Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360) -- 980,000
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PlayStation 2) -- 967,000
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) -- 564,000
6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PlayStation 3) -- 444,000
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Wii) -- 426,000
9. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) -- 387,000
10. Assassin's Creed (PlayStation 3) -- 377,000
Also, Galaxy did awesome. So there, take that, Japan!
A's Creed did well as expected.
Gh3 Wii... did well but I was expecting around 400k personally.
COD4 on the PS3 only did 444k sales? Ooph... it's no wonder a lot of devs are turning multiplatform..
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COD4? 3:1
A's Creed? 3:1
Guitar hero 3? ... at least 3:1 based on the first NPD..
Madden? Something like 4:1 or 3:1.
Also, yeah - DS sales are through the roof!
But there hasn't been a single big hit released in Nov/Dec. Has there? Was Phantom Hourglass released within this NPD scope?
Or before it?
I know it did at least 500k sales on its first .. week or two..
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you're doing it wrong
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=44070
PSN = Wicker86 ________ Gamertag = Wicker86
Wii: 519,000 (129,750)
DS: 458,000 (114,500)
360: 366,000 (91,500)
PSP: 286,000 (71,500)
PS2: 184,000 (46,000)
PS3: 121,000 (30,250)
So that’s the warm-up. Now let’s move onto the new material.
First, I wanted to make a quite note about November. Historically, November has shown an increase of roughly 2.5-3.5 over the previous month’s numbers as purchases ramp up for the holiday shopping season. So keep that in mind as we look at these numbers and their seemingly huge jump over October.
DS: 1,530,000 (382,500) I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this represents the biggest November in history. Simply phenomenal. Although the DS didn’t chart any software in the top 10, this is unsurprising given that it didn’t have any big releases and the top 10 is mostly filled with new software (the immovable Wii Play being the sole exception). I suspect that if you could peak deeper into the software charts you’d see them packed with DS titles.
Wii: 981,000 (245,250) Frankly, I’m rather underwhelmed. After the announcement that they sold 650,000 Wiis in the two weeks surrounding Black Friday I was expecting them to break a million easily. Instead they sold well over 2/3 of their monthly sales in just two weeks. Don’t get me wrong, these are still some excellent numbers, and the continued legs on Guitar Hero 3 shows that it wasn’t just a flash in the pan, but I expected more. Otherwise, it’s business as usual. The smaller-than-expected boost from November sales come, as usual from the fact that the system is still supply-constrained. Demand is there, but the systems aren’t. And, to the best of my knowledge, even the PS2 only had one November where it broke a million, so maybe I’m asking too much. Maybe I’m quibbling over 19,000 units, and these are great numbers, but despite all of that I can’t help feeling like they should have been higher.
360: 770,000 (192,500) Again I’m rather underwhelmed. Admittedly the tail end of Halo 3’s launch boosted the 360 above what it otherwise would have been in October, but what we’re seeing here is definitely on the low side of the typical November sales boost. These aren’t bad numbers at all, and software is obviously still selling ridiculously well, but I find it somewhat concerning that the 360 couldn’t beat the supply-constrained Wii in the second biggest month of the year. If MS wants to keep that gap from its inevitable closing as long as possible, this ain’t the way to do it.
PSP: 567,000 (141,650) If I found the 360’s hardware sales mediocre, that goes double for the PSP. Well not quite double, since the PSP didn’t even double its sales month-to-month. And as usual software is nowhere to be found. My suspicion remains that when this handheld generation plays out, the PSP will find itself relegated to the dustbin of history; a platform whose decent hardware sales can’t hide the fact that software is a black hole.
PS2: 496,000 (124,000) Under half a million in November. Despite the strong sales of GH 3 showing that the PS2’s installed base can still move software in huge numbers when motivated to do so, the system is definitely on its way out. It’s lasted far longer than anybody could have expected, but at this point in the US the 360 and Wii have clearly taken the torch while the PS2 continues its slow fade into legend.
PS3: 466,000 (116,500) Under most circumstances, I’d be astonished by these numbers. In a November when most systems landed well under the lost end of the 2.5-3.5 multiplier usually seen, the PS3 managed to nearly quadruple its sales. So why are these numbers still extremely disappointing? Because they’re being influenced by November AND an additional price cut. This isn’t November in a vacuum. There were external influences that helped move those hardware sales higher still, and the combined impact was impressive only when compared to the absolute disaster that previous sales had been. In the larger market it was still the worst-selling system last month, it still can’t beat the system it ostensibly replaced, and it’s didn’t even sell 60% as much as the 360 (much less the Wii). Oh, and its only two software titles to that the top 10 were multiplatform games that sold 3 times as many on the 360. The big 1st party exclusive? Crash and burn. There’s not a lot to like here. The PS3 at best was treading water this month.
Finally a few other notes on software. What happened to the 360 version of GH 3? After GH 2 on the 360 showed very impressive legs, GH 3 seems to have followed the more common 360 pattern of a huge first month followed by plummeting sales thereafter (also seen with Madden 08 where the 360 version sold best in August but got trounced by the PS2 on September). The Wii version actually INCREASED its sales from last month (although it also had four weeks to sell instead of just a few days) and the PS2’s sales rose astronomically. The PS2 is not the dominant console by any stretch, but it’s still very relevant. Mario Galaxy did very well, charting at number 2, and if New Super Mario Bros. on the DS was any indication, this game will have legs that go into the next time zone. COD4 may well not even chart in December, but I suspect that Galaxy will barely drop off at all. I truly wouldn’t be surprised if it actually sold more in December than November. Mass Effect on the 360 had a nice debut, particularly for a fairly niche title without a huge franchise backing it up. Bioware is definitely big enough to launch a game all on their own. Pity EA had to buy them up. That’s truly a loss for the gaming industry at large.