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Dave Perry: Nintendo kills 3rd party games
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OK, I was reading a Dave Perry interview on gonintendo, and he dropped this.... rather interesting claim.
At first I just figured it was more of Perry's whackiness in the games press, but then I thought that maybe there was something to it - that being undercutting the price of their own games when a 3rd party has a similar game out. Although Nintendo actively targeting 3rd parties who are seen as a "threat" seems a bit rich... look out ubisoft!
He then goes on to say he's glad they're back. But I have to ask, does anyone here agree with this point of view?A portion of a GamesIndustry interview with Dave Perry. Check out the conspiracy theory below…
GI: What do you think about the development situation on the Wii, in that a lot of publishers are jumping in late to the party and they’ve also got to compete with Nintendo’s first-party titles?
DP: That’s the bottom line. Do your homework. You have to allow for that. You can’t assume it is going to be like the other platforms, because you are going to have Nintendo taking most of the sales. And if Nintendo really sees you as a threat, they will take the moves to wipe you out. They are not going to let you win.
Meaning, if you sell your game and you are charging USD 60 or 50, or whatever price you choose, they will sell their games at USD 39.99 and they will kick your ass. So, the bottom line is, whatever you thought your business plan was, they can shake your world at a moment’s notice and they have a track record of doing that. So I would be very concerned with wanting to bet the farm on a Nintendo platform.
At first I just figured it was more of Perry's whackiness in the games press, but then I thought that maybe there was something to it - that being undercutting the price of their own games when a 3rd party has a similar game out. Although Nintendo actively targeting 3rd parties who are seen as a "threat" seems a bit rich... look out ubisoft!
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I don't know how true that is.
He imagines that a Nintendo SWAT team busts through the windows of too-successful developer's houses, all screamin' "down! down! down!" at your wife and kids as they ransack your house. From your vantage point with your cheek against the floor, you watch helplessly as they smash up your family photos and whatnot. As they filter back out and into their silent, black helicopter, the last one pauses, looks at you in disgust, and urinates on your bed.
Also, this: "Meaning, if you sell your game and you are charging USD 60 or 50, or whatever price you choose, they will sell their games at USD 39.99 and they will kick your ass."
I will translate: "I've heard that if you price your games above the standard for the platform, Nintendo doesn't kindly raise theirs and everyone else's prices to match!"
What a dumbass.
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But Ubisoft were being douches thinking they could charge xbox360 prices for wii games.
And monster 4x4 was less fun then cancer.
Yeah, I'm back to thinking Perry's just shooting his mouth off again.
It's quite ture.
If you live in the UK and pay in GBP for your games. But even 3rd party titles are going for that there.
From hells heart I stab at thee,
To the end, I spit my last breath at thee'
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And again, we come back to the same point made when 3rd parties complain bout having to compete with Nintendo "What do you expect Nintendo to do? Make their games worse?"
Exactly. But let's not have 3rd parties taking responsibility for making bad games - it's the fault of those who make games that are better!
Despite all that, I think I know what Perry is getting at, but even then i'd question it.
Seriously. He's like Dr. Derek Smart minus the super-villain personality and fake PhD.
So fuck Dave Perry.
Anyway, I think Perry might be referring to the days when Yamauchi ruled with an iron fist, but those days are done. Either way he's an idiot. Do third-party devs get pissed off at Microsoft when Halo outsells everything else for months on end? This is not a slam at Halo, BTW. I like Halo. But Nintendo isn't the only hardware/software company with first party titles that outsell third party titles.
He has a lot of good ideas, like a dancing MMO for instance. That's right. An Online RPG about dancing. Called "Dance".
If anyone that works at nintendo reads this-- GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND HELP 3rd parties!
You mean something like this?
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Although, to be sure, their practices HAVE changed.
Korean MMO's, lawl. We actually had a [Game On] for that here a long time ago. <.<
nintendo was pretty strict with 3rd party developers, yes.
Although perry's company was actually one that nintendo really cooperated with. Interplay. Mainly because they sold their games as "non-violent" alternatives, like Claymates or Clayfighters.
I hate the damn emote. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Now with stupid ass space!
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Mario Kart is a ratio. One Kart: Double the Dash!!
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Okay ... I'm getting the vibe that most of the board is just too young. Dave Perry hasn't made too many great games in recent memory, but he's not a complete fucking simp with no perspective. Back when he was actually a developer and not a manager he was responsible for some damned good games ... specifically Cool Spot and Earthworm Jim.
Shiny is just one of those companies that didn't fare well in the jump from 2D to 3D. At one point they had some clout, and because of that people still listen to Dave Perry ... but the idea that he has anything insightful to say about Nintendo ... that's laughable. The only game he was involved with on the Gamecube was Enter the Matrix; and with absolutely no N64 games in his company's portfolio, any firsthand knowledge he has regarding dealing with Nintendo is at least 12 years old and completely fucking irrelevant at this point.
This would be a valid point if not for the absolute insanity the man has been spouting for the past few years. There is also the fact that he hasn't made a game worth playing in quite some time.
Criticising them in itself is not a bad thing, I mean, despite their current massive success, they are by no means infallable. It just feels to me like he is saying "what they are doing is wrong, I know better" alot.
Also MDK is badass.
You can't really hate a company for being dicks in the past or else you would hate every single company that has ever existed.
Sure you can.
That's why I have... The List.
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