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Xbox Video Recording: Halo Fad or New gaming feature?

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    No, I agree on that one. The shield/flesh damage types combined with the weapons for a delicious bit of stratiegery, plus you can't dual wield and whip out a grenade, which is often very important. It's another one of those things I think Halo 2 improved on, along with an interesting plot and actual level design.

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    Inventing something and refining something are completely different. Bungie refined dual wielding but they didn't actually invent it.

    Halo games aren't allowed legitimate praise on the internet? :| I see 3 Halo threads on the first page, are you telling me there isn't any legitimate praise in any of them?

    As for why there's a backlash against stuff like the dual wielding in Halo, just look at this thread. While I can understand why the creator of this thread may not know that plenty of other games have allowed you to save in-game footage, it becomes a bit of a joke when a large amount of Halo fans are running around saying Bungie invented this and that.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    Inventing something and refining something are completely different. Bungie refined dual wielding but they didn't actually invent it.

    That depend upon how you define duel wielding. I'm pretty certain prior to Halo 2 the only 'duel wielding' was exactly the same as a single wield gun bar the fact that your gun animation showed two guns. Halo argueably did create the concept of actual duel wielding.

  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I have to admit that the fact I can (and did) record and save my entire playthrough of Halo 3 without having to do anything has conjured a warm and fuzzy feeling. Yes, I could have done the same exact thing with a couple commands to the console in HL2. But Bungie made it autonomous, where others have simply allowed it as a feature of the engine. Bungie doesn't invent things, they present them in groundbreaking ways.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The Halo 3 game recorder is a perfected Battlefield 2 BattleCorder (Online FPS multiplayer).

    BF 2 had the right idea, but it was a down right pain to use sometimes, and isn't nearly as streamlined - hence, you don't have people using it that much. Once it becomes commonplace to make replays, I think the community will benefit greatly in many ways.

    (Think: RTS and Replays ...Any RTS player knows how important replays are to their strategy. Every RTS game HAS to have a replay feature).

    I think recorded online sessions for FPS multiplayer, when done correctly (ala Halo 3) is a sensational feature. It's too bad some other games (BF 2) didn't quite make the cut.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand motivated battle programmerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    jb7 wrote: »
    DrDizaster wrote: »
    Once Rock Band comes out this will be a big deal.

    Why would that be a big deal?

    As far as I'm concerned, there should be exactly as many youtube videos of Rock Band/Guitar Hero as there are songs, and no more. 1 video of a perfect playthrough on the hardest difficulty. We don't need anything else. Seriously. No one wants to see you get a 93% on Hard. Fuck off and die.

    As it relates to Halo, the movies can be rated, right? That should at least separate some of the chaff from the wheat.

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  • Inglorious CoyoteInglorious Coyote Registered User
    edited September 2007
    Actually, I think Bungie did kind of invent dual wielding in video games.

    I mean, I can't think of an earlier game than Marathon ('94) that allowed dual pistols.

  • LachLach Registered User
    edited September 2007
    Delzhand wrote: »
    jb7 wrote: »
    DrDizaster wrote: »
    Once Rock Band comes out this will be a big deal.

    Why would that be a big deal?

    As far as I'm concerned, there should be exactly as many youtube videos of Rock Band/Guitar Hero as there are songs, and no more. 1 video of a perfect playthrough on the hardest difficulty. We don't need anything else. Seriously. No one wants to see you get a 93% on Hard. Fuck off and die.

    As it relates to Halo, the movies can be rated, right? That should at least separate some of the chaff from the wheat.

    On the other hand, no one cares about what you think either.

    Original Poster: You might as well change the OP so people will stop whining about how Halo didn't do it first.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA
    edited September 2007
    DrDizaster wrote: »
    Once Rock Band comes out this will be a big deal.

    Is this going to be in Rock Band?

    If it is...:mrgreen:

    And if it isn't, I wanna see it in Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero 4.

    If it's not in Rock Band then they've made a massive fumble. It should be in GH3 as well but hell I don't know what they're doing.

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  • LachLach Registered User
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P
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  • SniperGuySniperGuy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P
    RCP90 and the Grenade Launcher. INTO BATTLE WE GO!


    Also...why the hell do we need video recording in rock band?

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P
    RCP90 and the Grenade Launcher. INTO BATTLE WE GO!


    Also...why the hell do we need video recording in rock band?

    Yeah. I don't need to see a bunch of drunken frat boys mess up the Rock Band version of Free Bird. Still, its a nice feature, but not a necessary one by any means.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P

    Yeah but could you drop one and pick up another kind of weapon? Or mix and match weapons? Or drop one to throw a grenade and pick it up again? No.

    Goldeneye and all games before Halo 2 had double weapons, but not dual wielding. There is a small but very important difference.

    Im not saying bungie invented the concept of holding two weapons, but they did pioneer being able to choose which weapons go in which hand and how. Im pretty sure no other games have this feature as well implemented or as universal.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • Inglorious CoyoteInglorious Coyote Registered User
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »

    Im not saying bungie invented the concept of holding two weapons, but they did pioneer being able to choose which weapons go in which hand and how. Im pretty sure no other games have this feature as well implemented or as universal.
    Well. Goldeneye was '97. which is still 3 years after Marathon, so they may just have invented dual weapons.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

    We're talking first person shooters here. Try to keep up.

    Holding two weapons is older than time itself. Being able to choose which weapons go in which hand from the entire list of single handed weapons is pretty new.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

    We're talking first person shooters here. Try to keep up.

    Holding two weapons is older than time itself. Being able to choose which weapons go in which hand from the entire list of single handed weapons is pretty new.

    Wrong.
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    I don't see FPS in there anywhere. :lol:

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  • syndalissyndalis Corporate Shill Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

    We're talking first person shooters here. Try to keep up.

    Holding two weapons is older than time itself. Being able to choose which weapons go in which hand from the entire list of single handed weapons is pretty new.

    Wrong.
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    I don't see FPS in there anywhere. :lol:
    Sometimes I swear you just purposefully try to be a douche, you know that?

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    syndalis wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

    We're talking first person shooters here. Try to keep up.

    Holding two weapons is older than time itself. Being able to choose which weapons go in which hand from the entire list of single handed weapons is pretty new.

    Wrong.
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    I don't see FPS in there anywhere. :lol:
    Sometimes I swear you just purposefully try to be a douche, you know that?

    Flattery will get you nowhere.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    What about FF III for the famicom? Two different weapons, one in each hands. Bungie is just a bunch of copycats after all. :lol:

    We're talking first person shooters here. Try to keep up.

    Holding two weapons is older than time itself. Being able to choose which weapons go in which hand from the entire list of single handed weapons is pretty new.

    Wrong.

    Nevermind. Im sure I made a promise long ago not to argue with Xenogears of bore but I must have forgotten. Oh well.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It's funny, I leave an emoticon after just about every post to give the impression that I'm just joking around, and everyone jumps on me. I guarantee someone who looked hard enough could figure out the first FPS with two different weapon dual wielding. It might be Halo 3, its probably some obscure Doom clone. Also I seem to remember video recording in DOOM as well, that was fun.

    That being said, it's not like I particulary mind the video recording feature. It doesn't take anything away from the game, so why not?

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA
    edited September 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    It's almost like none of you fuckers ever played Goldeneye. Remember what you get after beating the mid-boss of the Jungle level? Two different weapons. :P
    RCP90 and the Grenade Launcher. INTO BATTLE WE GO!


    Also...why the hell do we need video recording in rock band?

    Yeah. I don't need to see a bunch of drunken frat boys mess up the Rock Band version of Free Bird. Still, its a nice feature, but not a necessary one by any means.

    Because the guys who actually perfect the songs will be able to put together completely awesome videos. There are youtube videos for GH and GH2. Rock Band could leverage that into XBL battle of the bands style events. There's actually a lot of potential there.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Training time, Faith Now that you're back, you gotta keep sharpRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Delzhand wrote: »
    jb7 wrote: »
    DrDizaster wrote: »
    Once Rock Band comes out this will be a big deal.

    Why would that be a big deal?

    As far as I'm concerned, there should be exactly as many youtube videos of Rock Band/Guitar Hero as there are songs, and no more. 1 video of a perfect playthrough on the hardest difficulty. We don't need anything else. Seriously. No one wants to see you get a 93% on Hard. Fuck off and die.

    :roll:

    Yeah, because beating an incredibly hard song like Through the Fire and Flames, for example, with 100% accuracy is doable. Fuck off. If I Five Star that song, the Internet is getting a fucking video of it. Don't wanna watch it? Then don't. Pretty sure no one is forcing you to.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    DrDizaster wrote: »
    Because the guys who actually perfect the songs will be able to put together completely awesome videos. There are youtube videos for GH and GH2. Rock Band could leverage that into XBL battle of the bands style events. There's actually a lot of potential there.
    Okay, so I have to ask. Where exactly is the appeal of watching a video of a rhythm game being played well? Unless such a thing allowed the use of (and editing together footage from) a USB camera to learn new tricks for difficult sections, then it will be more like watching somebody else play the game but not be in the same room for high fives or something. Wouldn't it? I think I'm missing something here.

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  • MonaroMonaro Registered User
    edited September 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Yes, Bungie totally invented in-game video recording. They invented dual wielding and Kenya as well. ;-)

    They perfected all 3 though;-)

    The lions and tigers? All Bungie.

    Well to be brutally honest Bungie did kinda invent dual wielding. Previous games had you holding two guns but you couldnt mix n match like you could in Halo 2.

    but of course, giving halo games any legitimate praise isnt allowed on the internet.

    Inventing something and refining something are completely different. Bungie refined dual wielding but they didn't actually invent it.

    Halo games aren't allowed legitimate praise on the internet? :| I see 3 Halo threads on the first page, are you telling me there isn't any legitimate praise in any of them?

    As for why there's a backlash against stuff like the dual wielding in Halo, just look at this thread. While I can understand why the creator of this thread may not know that plenty of other games have allowed you to save in-game footage, it becomes a bit of a joke when a large amount of Halo fans are running around saying Bungie invented this and that.

    Haha yeah me too. I came in her to [insert game that did it ages ago here] as well. I guess we have to balance our reasoning of someone refining it and bringing it to the masses with our reaction of "OMFG it's been done noob!".

    I dont have Halo 3 so can't comment on if at is any different.

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  • syndalissyndalis Corporate Shill Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Rock band with use of the Vision cam (or eyetoy if you are on that side of the console mason dixon line) for the express purpose of recording the actual player behind their note charts would be AMAZINGLY cool. Especially if on the replays, the notecharts were transparent to the point of barely visible, but you can make them out if you focus on them, but the real attraction would be the guys playing.

    The bandwidth needed would make this less than ideal, but a man can dream.

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