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Dear Women: What's Wrong with the Doggy-Style?
Werdna
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No this isn't about what I've experienced or what everyone has experienced. I think it is worth discussion how some positions are considered gender oppressive and hyper-masculine-heteronormative-sexuality and some are not. I've heard too many of my friends and acquaintances (and once from myself) taking too much grief over the simple pleasure of having sex from behind.
This isn't about how doing blatantly demeaning sexual acts is okay, rather, how something as well accepted among men as doggy-style is regarded as demeaning by pseudo-feminist thought. Why should I feel guilty because I or anyone enjoy a particular sexual position? Sure if that one partner dislikes it, but to be looked down upon for it.
So, please discuss. What is wrong with doggy-style? How is it demeaning? Is it possibly just boring? Would it be better if the TV were on while Nick-at-Nite was on? Are you offended that I'm posting this? Given that this forum is saturated in male thought, this is a topic that we can all handle while still respecting each other. And I'm comfortable with receiving negative criticism toward my view point.
What are the borders of where sex becomes demeaning, and where is it just a sharing between partners?
This isn't about how doing blatantly demeaning sexual acts is okay, rather, how something as well accepted among men as doggy-style is regarded as demeaning by pseudo-feminist thought. Why should I feel guilty because I or anyone enjoy a particular sexual position? Sure if that one partner dislikes it, but to be looked down upon for it.
So, please discuss. What is wrong with doggy-style? How is it demeaning? Is it possibly just boring? Would it be better if the TV were on while Nick-at-Nite was on? Are you offended that I'm posting this? Given that this forum is saturated in male thought, this is a topic that we can all handle while still respecting each other. And I'm comfortable with receiving negative criticism toward my view point.
What are the borders of where sex becomes demeaning, and where is it just a sharing between partners?
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Yeah, I've never heard anyone, feminist or otherwise, argue that doggy-style was demeaning.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Minor logistical problem, easily overcome with furniture and a little bit of ingenuity.
It's much easier than 69 with a height disparity.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
You know, I want to say I heard some such bullshit. Like once. Ever. I don't doubt that over the years at least a few have taken this position.
But in order for it to be worth talking about, I'm going to want to see some evidence that this is actually a position that a significant number of people hold. Like, even one link to some feminist blog or something.
Not liking it is one thing.
Finding it demeaning is another.
Even then, most women I've known like doggy style. It's sometimes the only way the curve of your penis can hit the G spot depending on how you're each built.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Yeah. "some other people who aren't me think X" are always boring threads because they're basically a strawman from the word 'go'.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'm glad that all you men are back-slapping each other and talking about what a ridiculous position it is to take, but coming from the position that I've actually been with some women, I've had some experiences where this wasn't just a "non" issue.
Let me be the first to say this; man wut?
I'm sure some women, somewhere have a problem getting pegged from behind while in a kneeling stance. I can only conjecture why.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Probably depends on whether or not the guy is behind them, waving his hat and yelling "woooo-hooooh!"
EDIT: I have run into women who see doggy-style as less "intimate" for whatever reason. Probably because you're not facing each other, but that's just a guess. Most still dug it, but it depended on their mood.
I'm sitting here a bit perplexed and trying to work out in my head how doggy style could be considered demeaning.
I've talked to some women about this and it has been an issue with them in their sex lives.
Maybe the women you talked with don't have a lot of experience with the position or something. Or they're really young and don't have much sexual experience. I seriously can't think of why else they would have an issue with it.
I bet you feel foolish. :P
EDIT: I guess what I'm looking for here is an explanation detailing how it's degrading.
While I'm sure most girls don't appreciate having their hair pulled in such a manner as girls would if they were fighting at a young age, there is one way to pull hair that, without fail, each one of the seven girls I've been with has liked. There are more I've been with that didn't escalate to sex.
Basically to describe the spot, put your hand on the back of your neck, palm resting against your neck, with your fingers splayed, and push your hand up into your hair until you feel hair tickling the spots between your fingers. Grasp firmly and pull. You should feel your head being pulled back, without any pain whatsoever, just a sensation of pulling.
Every girl I've ever done this to has gotten off on it, especially when it was combined with kissing their neck or just beneath their ear. Especially during sex, but also during foreplay, or even just during kissing.
I can see how perhaps if a girl isn't in the mood for it, and the guy insists on it, maybe it might be...well, I'd still not go for "demeaning" but probably somewhere in the neighborhood.
Really what I think it comes down to is that doggy-style, perhaps more so than other positions, has the possibility of facilitating a degrading attitude the guy might have towards sex in general. But no, I don't see how the position itself is particularly degrading.
Am I missing something?
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=3114977#post3114977 :?:
Edit:
Tch, you win.
On the black screen
*dons wig*
I agree.
To be honest , the conversations I've had with women and one partner in regards to doggy-style were from women who were sexually experienced. I must say that they also had vegan and Ani Difranco leanings -- I did live in a little white hippie college town for four years.
No women from traditional middleamerica ever would have any complaints about it. Although there was mention made once about being insecure about how her ass looked -- which is pretty understandable.
I guess my experiences have been different then. I'm not giving any names, but I go to one of the most infamously liberal/hippie schools in the U.S that has really large feminist community and queer community. And I honestly have never heard any complaints about doggy style. Most of the feminists (studentwise) are extremely liberal when it comes to sex. Hell my school even has administration approved viewings of porn on a regular bases.
edit: I understand that people worry about their appearances when it comes to sex, but I honestly hope an individual's insecurities would not prohbit them from trying different things.
Its not a feminist position, but you'll see a lot of fundies getting pretty specific about what's okay and what's not wrt sexual conduct.
I'm willing to bet that's more about failure to reach-around than anything else.
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