How would killing off a known green not help towards a victory for blues?
And the fact that you've worked with everyone but me til now is really immaterial. This late in the game people who may have been useful at one point start to become less so. The Seers are certainly pretty useless at this juncture. I think everyone has a pretty good idea of who everyone else is, card wise.
For instance, I'm pretty sure I'd have been killed by the greens tonight regardless, as the info I could supply them (I'm a Color Seer) is pretty much useless at this point anyways.
To be honest, I only voted in that post as a place holder, and I only chose you because I know you're green and you singled me out earlier :P
I'm in the process of moving at the moment, so internet access is sporadic at best. I'll probably be changing my vote later though since I don't think you're one of the Vig's and whittling down the vig population amongst the greens is my #1 priority.
A good choice, Niceguy... and I would reccomend your choice be followed suit by anyone with half a brain.
Osvik has been playing turncoat for the entire game. I unfortunately have been played by him, and it cost me my most trusted ally.
Osvik is the vigilante. I have reason to believe he is the only vigilante left. He's been working with square? yes. He's been working with green? Yes. Truly, it is he who has been playing both sides.
Here's an interesting PM I recieved from him this morning, even.
Alright, I changed my vote to you at the last minute possible so you wouldn't get killed. The greens fully believe I am with them right now. I was going to turn on you, but it was a snap decision, and I'm ready to commit to square victory again.
I'm going to hit plutonium today. Let me know if there's anything else we need to do.
You turned on me once, Osvik, and now you come crawling back.
Well, sir, one good turn deserves another. Kill this vigilante... he's only out for himself anyway. That much is obvious. A few correct moves on his part and he'll share a win condition with everyone in the game, and then we'll all have been his pawns.
Here's an interesting PM I recieved from him this morning, even.
Alright, I changed my vote to you at the last minute possible so you wouldn't get killed. The greens fully believe I am with them right now. I was going to turn on you, but it was a snap decision, and I'm ready to commit to square victory again.
I'm going to hit plutonium today. Let me know if there's anything else we need to do.
Thats an interesting paraphrasing of the PM I sent you. I never asked you to trust me, in fact I said I fully expected you not to trust me and vote for me, which is what happened.
The votes this round have gone pretty much the way I expected. One person is left to vote and I fully expect him to tie it up by voting for me. It's going to be 50 /50 whether Shorn Scrotum Man or myself dies from the vote. My game has come down to the toss of the coin, if I win then it will be worth it if I lose well I still believe I have done everything I could to get a win this game.
Might as well get it in now, as I will be gone pretty much all day tomorrow. Spending the morning and middle of the day moving and going to the Blue Jackets game with my girlfriend at night. You all have a splendid day!
one red triangle – jdarksun
two red triangles – Squashua
three red triangles – Oatway
one red square – Raakam
two red squares – Mr. Embarkation
three red squares – Locus
one red circle – Gumpy
two red circles – FreeAgent
three red circles – Zot
one blue triangle – Niceguy Myeye
two blue triangles – Jester313
three blue triangles – Crono729
one blue square – Asukui
two blue squares – El Skid
three blue squares – Rend
one blue circle – B:L
two blue circles – Shorn Scrotum Man
three blue circles – Shamus
one green triangle – Ardor
two green triangles – Plutonium
three green triangles – cheez
one green square – Qorzm
two green squares – Grundlterror
three green squares – Osvik
one green circle – NATIK
two green circles – Romantic Undead
three green circles – Infidel
Number Seers – Infidel, Jester313, Raakam
Color Seers – Oatway, Qorzm, Shorn Scrotum Man
Shape Seers – Ardor, FreeAgent, Rend
Guardians – cheez, El Skid, Gumpy
Vigilantes – B:L, Osvik, Squashua, Romantic Undead (Round 2), Asukui (Round 4), Mr. Embarkation (Round 6), Plutonium (Round 7)
Game Commentary
Though a bit of a slow Phalla, I think the endgame made up for the heavy-bandwagon beginning. Until the pace picked up, I was a bit worried that the Seer powers weren’t powerful enough. However, after chatting with a few players, it looks like things turned out alright, as there was a lot of behind-the-scenes work that wasn’t visible in thread. And really, that was the entire point of the game, to try and position oneself with other players, knowing that while you can win with anyone, they could also turn on you.
Doubling of vigilante kills and guardian blocks slowed the game down quite a bit in the early game, and there were a few instances of unplaced vigilante orders later on – I’m not sure if any of those were strategic choices. Either way, the game went a couple days longer than expected. In the cases where vigilantes were killed but didn’t place any ‘wills’, I just used the most recent ‘will’ given on previous turns. Vigilantes were really quite powerful in this game, changing the balance of power after the power began getting passed around.
I think Set Phalla works in its current 27-player form, though players should know coming in that there will be a lot of work to do outside of the thread and that it can take a while for the game’s conclusion to come about. It’s possible to do a full-game Set Phalla with up to 64 players (3 attributes, 4 values in each) or 81 players (4 attributes, 3 values in each), but thematically, it’s a bit weak and probably wouldn’t fill. I already had trouble getting 27 people for the mini-phalla, so even with more exposure I’d find it hard to get all the positions filled.
Thanks to all for playing, I'm interested to hear your opinions on the game.
I was trying to see if Ardor was up for a 'One' win with my vigilante powers, but apparently I was shot by one unfriendly vigilante.
I did send in my orders though, but apparently cheez and Rend were well guarded. :P
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El SkidThe frozen white northRegistered Userregular
edited October 2007
Yeah, I was guarding Rend for the bit of the game I was alive- Rend knew what everyone was really early on, and if it weren't for a bit of stabbing in the back, would have done really well.
I enjoyed the game, but I played a neutral role to all possible win conditions until last night, when plutonium, the new vigilante, made the call that we were going for triangle.
In a game like this, it didn't matter who you wanted to work with really, you could work with anyone, it just mattered how you'd find a way to stay alive long enough to plan anything. I took a risk that a day 2 or 3 reveal would've kept me alive where a day 1 reveal would've likely put me at risk. Day 1 I could probably hook up a bunch of people, so that would make me a threat to others, whereas days 2 or 3 it would make me more of an opportunity, or so I thought.
Osvik, in the end, betraying you took a lot of guilt because you threw your lot with green as early as day 2 or 3 and you did a good job in planning our moves and keeping the green team together. I'm sorry it had to end this way. To be fair, I did post on the short-lived green boards than I am an opportunist and threw my lot in with nobody.
In the end, you and cheez were both green triangles with me, so since we had the most in common, going with you guys whether it be a green or triangle victory were the best choices for me.
It's almost like the assamite/camarilla deal we had oh so long ago, except we could both win together this time.
Osvik, in the end, betraying you took a lot of guilt because you threw your lot with green as early as day 2 or 3 and you did a good job in planning our moves and keeping the green team together. I'm sorry it had to end this way. To be fair, I did post on the short-lived green boards than I am an opportunist and threw my lot in with nobody.
Thats OK. I knew about 2 days ago there was a chance that you and Plutonium could turn on us and go for Triangle wins instead of green.
Very early on I had a complete list of green players and an almost complete list of square players. I was a vigilante and I knew another in each of those networks. I went with what I beleived was the stronger of my networks with the greens. Things didnt go exactly as I had planned and by the time I realised the game would probably come down to shape it was too late for the squares. Given the same cirumstances I would probably do the same as I did
Sorry I had to betray your trust Rend but if it makes you feel any better I was working with Plutonium before I contaced you and in the end he turned on me. Thats karma for you
It was easier to turn square against green, giving triangle the chance to escape more or less unscathed compared to those two networks. That was my opinion. Plut made the call once he gained vigilante powers, we followed him because all we could do at that point was try to control the vote.
Still though, had I survived day 6, Green would have had control of the vote and could have won the next day. phalla loyalties run deep though and are hard to circumvent. Good game everyone!
Even though I didn't win, I felt i was a part of a lot of the action and had a good time!
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GumpyThere is alwaysa greater powerRegistered Userregular
edited October 2007
Well done triangles
This was a harsh, but good introduction into all things Phalla , thanks guys.
So, uh, well played triangles. Good stuff.... now who the hell killed me on day 1?
EDIT: Ah, there's the spreadsheet.... goddamnit Squash. Huh... weird that we both targeted each other, but you wanted to kill me, whereas I was just seering you.
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And the fact that you've worked with everyone but me til now is really immaterial. This late in the game people who may have been useful at one point start to become less so. The Seers are certainly pretty useless at this juncture. I think everyone has a pretty good idea of who everyone else is, card wise.
For instance, I'm pretty sure I'd have been killed by the greens tonight regardless, as the info I could supply them (I'm a Color Seer) is pretty much useless at this point anyways.
To be honest, I only voted in that post as a place holder, and I only chose you because I know you're green and you singled me out earlier :P
I'm in the process of moving at the moment, so internet access is sporadic at best. I'll probably be changing my vote later though since I don't think you're one of the Vig's and whittling down the vig population amongst the greens is my #1 priority.
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Vote Osvik
Osvik has been playing turncoat for the entire game. I unfortunately have been played by him, and it cost me my most trusted ally.
Osvik is the vigilante. I have reason to believe he is the only vigilante left. He's been working with square? yes. He's been working with green? Yes. Truly, it is he who has been playing both sides.
Here's an interesting PM I recieved from him this morning, even.
You turned on me once, Osvik, and now you come crawling back.
Well, sir, one good turn deserves another. Kill this vigilante... he's only out for himself anyway. That much is obvious. A few correct moves on his part and he'll share a win condition with everyone in the game, and then we'll all have been his pawns.
Benedict Arnold, your time is up.
I !Vote Osvik.
Thats an interesting paraphrasing of the PM I sent you. I never asked you to trust me, in fact I said I fully expected you not to trust me and vote for me, which is what happened.
The votes this round have gone pretty much the way I expected. One person is left to vote and I fully expect him to tie it up by voting for me. It's going to be 50 /50 whether Shorn Scrotum Man or myself dies from the vote. My game has come down to the toss of the coin, if I win then it will be worth it if I lose well I still believe I have done everything I could to get a win this game.
All is fair in love and phalla
Here's the results for Round 7.
Eliminated players:
Osvik
Rend
Elminated card attributes:
three, three
blue, green
square, square
Remaining card attributes:
one (3), two (3)
blue (3), green (3)
triangle (4), square (1), circle (1)
PMs are being sent/have been sent.
Round 8 ends 7:00 PM Pacific, 10:00 PM Eastern on Saturday. One or two rounds left...
oooOOOOOoooooo
Shorn Scrotum Man! Third time is the charm!
!vote Qorzm
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Here's the results for Round 8.
Eliminated players:
Shorn Scrotum Man
Qorzm
Elminated card attributes:
one, two
blue, green
square, circle
Remaining card attributes:
one (2), two (2)
blue (2), green (2)
triangle (4)
Ardor, Jester313, Niceguy Myeye, and Plutonium win, all sharing the triangle attribute!
Reveal post and spreadsheet coming shortly.
Cards and Special Roles
two red triangles – Squashua
three red triangles – Oatway
one red square – Raakam
two red squares – Mr. Embarkation
three red squares – Locus
one red circle – Gumpy
two red circles – FreeAgent
three red circles – Zot
one blue triangle – Niceguy Myeye
two blue triangles – Jester313
three blue triangles – Crono729
one blue square – Asukui
two blue squares – El Skid
three blue squares – Rend
one blue circle – B:L
two blue circles – Shorn Scrotum Man
three blue circles – Shamus
one green triangle – Ardor
two green triangles – Plutonium
three green triangles – cheez
one green square – Qorzm
two green squares – Grundlterror
three green squares – Osvik
one green circle – NATIK
two green circles – Romantic Undead
three green circles – Infidel
Number Seers – Infidel, Jester313, Raakam
Color Seers – Oatway, Qorzm, Shorn Scrotum Man
Shape Seers – Ardor, FreeAgent, Rend
Guardians – cheez, El Skid, Gumpy
Vigilantes – B:L, Osvik, Squashua, Romantic Undead (Round 2), Asukui (Round 4), Mr. Embarkation (Round 6), Plutonium (Round 7)
Game Commentary
Though a bit of a slow Phalla, I think the endgame made up for the heavy-bandwagon beginning. Until the pace picked up, I was a bit worried that the Seer powers weren’t powerful enough. However, after chatting with a few players, it looks like things turned out alright, as there was a lot of behind-the-scenes work that wasn’t visible in thread. And really, that was the entire point of the game, to try and position oneself with other players, knowing that while you can win with anyone, they could also turn on you.
Doubling of vigilante kills and guardian blocks slowed the game down quite a bit in the early game, and there were a few instances of unplaced vigilante orders later on – I’m not sure if any of those were strategic choices. Either way, the game went a couple days longer than expected. In the cases where vigilantes were killed but didn’t place any ‘wills’, I just used the most recent ‘will’ given on previous turns. Vigilantes were really quite powerful in this game, changing the balance of power after the power began getting passed around.
I think Set Phalla works in its current 27-player form, though players should know coming in that there will be a lot of work to do outside of the thread and that it can take a while for the game’s conclusion to come about. It’s possible to do a full-game Set Phalla with up to 64 players (3 attributes, 4 values in each) or 81 players (4 attributes, 3 values in each), but thematically, it’s a bit weak and probably wouldn’t fill. I already had trouble getting 27 people for the mini-phalla, so even with more exposure I’d find it hard to get all the positions filled.
Thanks to all for playing, I'm interested to hear your opinions on the game.
I definitely agree this was a "behind the scenes" Phalla. I enjoyed it, and would play again. I like the "multiple win possibility" aspect.
Crono, Romantic Undead killed you. Spreadsheet's in the reveal post... bottom of the last page.
I was trying to see if Ardor was up for a 'One' win with my vigilante powers, but apparently I was shot by one unfriendly vigilante.
I did send in my orders though, but apparently cheez and Rend were well guarded. :P
In a game like this, it didn't matter who you wanted to work with really, you could work with anyone, it just mattered how you'd find a way to stay alive long enough to plan anything. I took a risk that a day 2 or 3 reveal would've kept me alive where a day 1 reveal would've likely put me at risk. Day 1 I could probably hook up a bunch of people, so that would make me a threat to others, whereas days 2 or 3 it would make me more of an opportunity, or so I thought.
Osvik, in the end, betraying you took a lot of guilt because you threw your lot with green as early as day 2 or 3 and you did a good job in planning our moves and keeping the green team together. I'm sorry it had to end this way. To be fair, I did post on the short-lived green boards than I am an opportunist and threw my lot in with nobody.
It's no fun if I don't betray somebody.
In the end, you and cheez were both green triangles with me, so since we had the most in common, going with you guys whether it be a green or triangle victory were the best choices for me.
It's almost like the assamite/camarilla deal we had oh so long ago, except we could both win together this time.
Thats OK. I knew about 2 days ago there was a chance that you and Plutonium could turn on us and go for Triangle wins instead of green.
Very early on I had a complete list of green players and an almost complete list of square players. I was a vigilante and I knew another in each of those networks. I went with what I beleived was the stronger of my networks with the greens. Things didnt go exactly as I had planned and by the time I realised the game would probably come down to shape it was too late for the squares. Given the same cirumstances I would probably do the same as I did
Sorry I had to betray your trust Rend but if it makes you feel any better I was working with Plutonium before I contaced you and in the end he turned on me. Thats karma for you
Even though I didn't win, I felt i was a part of a lot of the action and had a good time!
This was a harsh, but good introduction into all things Phalla
they don't it be like it is but it do
EDIT: Ah, there's the spreadsheet.... goddamnit Squash. Huh... weird that we both targeted each other, but you wanted to kill me, whereas I was just seering you.