Hellgate†London: It's out. Why aren't you playing it?

Echo

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http://www.heckler-koch.de/ ?

...or maybe just use photobucket. If you're even talking about somewhere to dump screenshots.

krylon666

Septus wrote: »

If you have a weapon that only does a meager 6% spectral damage, but you have a whole bunch of phase strength, do you still have as high of a chance to phase as a spectral based weapon with the same phase strength?

well i'm just guessing here but that seems correct. the strength should just determine if you actually phase/ignite/etc and the damage is just damage.

TheCrumblyCracker

I am about to hit level 10, how awesome are Lighting Field, Bone Shards?

Preacher

Not real life weapons, like a site like thottbot or one of it's ilk that lists weaps.

mrflippy

urahonky wrote: »

Echo wrote: »

Hah. Got a unique sniper rifle off Bag O' Bones: Arashi Spider-Shot or something.

...so why did they remove the screenshot function from the retail client?

Hit Printscreen... And it should be in your document's folder, under My Games or something.

Printscreen doesn't work for me, but the /screenshot command does. I should probably look into whether I can map that to printscreen or not.

Zombiemambo

Man you guys are spoiled, I played the single player demo with super-low settings and I thought it was awesome.

Echo

Preacher wrote: »

Not real life weapons, like a site like thottbot or one of it's ilk that lists weaps.

They had a site that listed a whole bunch of different weapons with movies and shit, but then they redesigned it with the current piece of shit.

mrflippy

Preacher wrote: »

Not real life weapons, like a site like thottbot or one of it's ilk that lists weaps.

Probably not going to see one for a little while at least. The items can have multiple attributes on them, as well as different damages or strengths, item levels, etc.

I guess you could have a database full of possible item mods or something, but it would be silly to have a database full of hellgate weapons because most of the attributes are random.

Edit: Unless you're talking about just a list of base weapon types or something.

TheCrumblyCracker

I just found a hidden passage INSIDE a hidden passage INSIDE a treasure passage.

flammiebc

TheCrumblyCracker wrote: »

I am about to hit level 10, how awesome are Lighting Field, Bone Shards?

Lightning Field with a couple levels does decent damage over a period of time; you toss an orb out and it generates a lightning field at the location. Proceed to stun them with demonspine, or other spells of your choice after that. You can throw the orb from a very good distance away too...

Which is the problem I have with bone shards. It's essentially spine burst from CoH, pbaoe damage with chance to stun. They took out the animation time in patch 0, I believe, so it should be at least passable by now.

widowson

Very late post....

While the through about bringing Holy Wrath upon the minions of Hell is something I might enjoy, this game got 3 stars of gamespy.com, who's known for inflating ratings.

Why? Is it that meh?

Preacher

Well unique weps I believe retain the same stats everytime, and some legendaries have set stats, like that rail gun serial linked.

Hibiki

Is there any way to jump into more crowded towns? I know it's done for performance reasons but it's getting really dull being in the town by myself 99% of the time, the other 1% i will see maybe one other person.

devoir

A_ccualt wrote: »

What is with the HUD? Almost none of it is explained in the tutorial or the instruction manual. We figured out most everything, I think, but still aren't sure what those three little symbols in the bottom right are for. They seem to change frequently and don't appear to have anything to do with what I have equipped.

Mini-game. Causes more loot to drop once you meet the requirements. There's a chart that I posted in spoilers on the page you posted this question, or the previous one.

(Your question wasn't answered in the first few posts after yours, so I apologise if it did afterwards, I'm just trying to make sure everyone gets their questions dealt with.)

Zombiemambo

widowson wrote: »

Very late post....

While the through about bringing Holy Wrath upon the minions of Hell is something I might enjoy, this game got 3 stars of gamespy.com, who's known for inflating ratings.

Why? Is it that meh?

This is a 97 page thread. Do you think there are 97 pages detailing how much this game sucks?

devoir

Forar wrote: »

Forar the Engineer is up to level 9, and managed to snag a lucky automatic rifle "Yellow" (5 star... Legendary? Unique?) around level 7 or 8 which I've upgraded to level 10. I know, I know, Auto rifles are kinda ass compared to some of the weapons, but this thing hits like a truck.

Auto rifles are fine. I'm using one at 27, it just takes the right kind of rifle with the right mods/updates.

A quick question; I'd heard that the shared stash was Subscriber Only, but then I've heard that it's supposed to be available to regular accounts as well, just smaller. Any word on this?

http://hellgatelondon.com/subscriber-chart

At the moment shared stash isn't even listed as a feature for subscribers. I'm guessing that they hope to supersede the functionality with the mailing system which should be in within the next month, month and a half.

Fartacus_the_Mighty

krylon666 wrote: »

i saw something interesting (to me at least) on the official forums regarding weapons. a guy was looking for a certain level grey (white) item with max upgrade slots. his reasoning being that you can just make a gun that is better than the legendary by using all the upgrade slots and upgrading it in the nano-whatever machine to add legendary attributes. as the legendary items are just the base weapon with a few random legendary upgrades.

i guess this seems obvious in some ways, but the ability to choose your upgrades and end up with a better weapon is the important thing. its something i wouldn't think to do (mostly cause im still learning the mechanics of the items, but also because i'm easily impressed by all the cool stars and gold color on the legendary items).

This isn't entirely true. Green items get one special property, blue 2, legendary 3, unique 3 or 4. Many items (especially weapons, it seems) can hold a lot more than 3 properties.

Since enhancement cost is based on item level (and not rarity/properties), a blue sword with 4 mods is better than a grey sword with 4 mods. In single player, I was able to make some really awesome gear by buying/finding/crafting blue or orange stuff, then enhancing it three times. Using the enhancer isn't all that practical due to the cost, but if you hax yourself some money in single-player you can make some great equipment.

devoir

Fireflash wrote: »

Shields suck? I'm only lvl 15 but they seem pretty useful for my evoker. I tend to not get hit too often so my shields are usually enough to absorb the damage.

At higher levels and with a group, you stand very little chance of being able to avoid all damage for prolonged periods of time. Situations like those are when shields become useless, even considering the fact that you don't get status affected until the enemy are doing damage to your hit points.

BaronVonSnakPak

anyone else get REALLY shit performance in chocolate park?

Lingxor

lightning field is pretty good.

havent tried bone shards yet.

Doronron

So I'm fiddling around with this, and while its skill effects are not complete, it could be a fun time waster at work or perhaps give some possible insight on builds -- provided you know enough about the class you play.

Septus

I actually had a legendary sword lose damage(from 10-15 to 9-14) when enhancing it. I didn't look as carefully as I could have at all stats before doing it, but I couldn't see anything that was boosted. Not that it should matter, I don't think any new property should be added on at the cost of damage.

Dashui

Does anyone know if the Guy Fawkes event has a Guy Fawkes mask? I need a Guy Fawkes mask!

devoir

powersurge wrote: »

Sooo newbie question.... I didn't try to in the beta but is there a way to reset a instance? I just started playing and I want to run the 1st hellgate a few times before I move on. Is there a way to reset it after I finish?

Log out, log back in, or do some jiggering about with groups.

(Your question wasn't answered in the first few posts after yours, so I apologise if it did afterwards, I'm just trying to make sure everyone gets their questions dealt with.)

Preacher

I heard that was a bug sept, enhancing legendaries can make them worse.

devoir

Echo wrote: »

Hah. Got a unique sniper rifle off Bag O' Bones: Arashi Spider-Shot or something.

...so why did they remove the screenshot function from the retail client?

Screenshots are in My Documents\My Games\Hellgate London\Screenshots\

krylon666

Fartacus_the_Mighty wrote: »

krylon666 wrote: »

i saw something interesting (to me at least) on the official forums regarding weapons. a guy was looking for a certain level grey (white) item with max upgrade slots. his reasoning being that you can just make a gun that is better than the legendary by using all the upgrade slots and upgrading it in the nano-whatever machine to add legendary attributes. as the legendary items are just the base weapon with a few random legendary upgrades.

i guess this seems obvious in some ways, but the ability to choose your upgrades and end up with a better weapon is the important thing. its something i wouldn't think to do (mostly cause im still learning the mechanics of the items, but also because i'm easily impressed by all the cool stars and gold color on the legendary items).

This isn't entirely true. Green items get one special property, blue 2, legendary 3, unique 3 or 4. Many items (especially weapons, it seems) can hold a lot more than 3 properties.

Since enhancement cost is based on item level (and not rarity/properties), a blue sword with 4 mods is better than a grey sword with 4 mods. In single player, I was able to make some really awesome gear by buying/finding/crafting blue or orange stuff, then enhancing it three times. Using the enhancer isn't all that practical due to the cost, but if you hax yourself some money in single-player you can make some great equipment.

i'm not sure what part isn't entirely true though. how is a blue sword with 4 mods better than a grey sword with 4 mods if you can add better properties to the grey sword? i'm not saying it won't cost more to make weapons similar or better than the legendary - i'm just saying the implication is the 'homemade' weapons will have better stats, since you can pick the ones you want.

Delias

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

anyone else get REALLY shit performance in chocolate park?

Yup, performance goes down the tube there and in its latter version in Act 5. Thank God I get my new PC tomorrow.

You know those folks who bought this game for the single player aspect are possibly cutting themselves by now, especially if they don't have an internet connection (I know, its 2007, but I work for an ISP, you'd be surprised how many folks we get who are just now connecting to this scary intarweb for the first time). While we can all stare at the light at the end of the tunnel that is the patch that will fix all these problems, those folks will live in darkness, forever crashing and memory leaking until an expansion pack graces us. At least there's some solice in the fact that those people are probably the minority.

InfestedGnome

Just got this, installing. I hope it works cause I can't return it. If not, oh well, itll have to wait for my pre- SC2 rig I plan to build

Delias

I see a lot of conversation on the official forums about nerfs to crafting augmentations(The majority of augments no longer being of a rare or legendary quality, but more of a white/normal quality). Anyone here noticing this or is it just the usual post-patch mass conspiracy crap?

A-Puck

Currently aiming toward this as my MM build. Yes I know that only one special can trigger on any given crit, but with all 3 maxed I've a good odd of something triggering on a crit. Mods were going to lean heavily toward +x%crit to $type, then I found out how those work and instead they will be leaning toward +x to crit %. Season to taste with nova procs and let simmer for 50 levels.

Septus

Delias wrote: »

I see a lot of conversation on the official forums about nerfs to crafting augmentations(The majority of augments no longer being of a rare or legendary quality, but more of a white/normal quality). Anyone here noticing this or is it just the usual post-patch mass conspiracy crap?

That would suck, as they add so much flavor to weapons. I've still yet to see even one mod that adds an aoe on hit(I find plenty that are on a kill) and that would be so damn awesome for the otherwise sucky automatic rifles I have.

Meanwhile, I'm aaaaahhhhgonizing over what other classes to play. My engineer seems stale to what I might find as a marksman, possibly because smackdown sucks to target, and I'm unimpressed with molotov randomly going off behind me instead of where I target, and because I never boosted my drone. I think my build can still fit points for a boosted drone, but we'll see. Blademaster seems awesome in every way except surviving, as I don't think surge of restoration heals enough, and the on kill requirement is annoying. Evoker sounds cool except for all the very heavy focus on precise positioning for skills(spectral bolt, tempest, hellfire etc), and Marksman sounds like it'd give me a better version of what I've so far enjoyed the most, just blasting the shit out of enemies, except I don't want to feel identical to the last 18 levels on my engineer.

Septus

Puck, you can't make that build, you have to have more points in the first tier because of level requirements. Redo your build, but set the level to 2 and turn on auto-level in the skill calculator.

Preacher

There are some mods that add effect to hit I know I had an electro bolt one and I had a rifle with a five point exploding fire one built in.

intelnavi

Anyone know what a good phase attack strength to shoot for? like is 1100% good? Or should I go for more? I'm looking at this for an endgame point of view.

Kami

Just registered on the website, and I'm about to install this bad boy.

I have to grind a bit in WoW tonight, but I'll be on for sure afterwards. Save me a spot in the Arcadians. <3

ParisInFlames

Man, they either need to combine swords and guns into one mini game category, or massively boost the amount of swords that drop. I've finished 5 instances with the same mini game because I still have not found one fucking sword.

Preacher

Mods are a pain for my fiancee me I get them like candy.

Echo

devoir wrote: »

Echo wrote: »

Hah. Got a unique sniper rifle off Bag O' Bones: Arashi Spider-Shot or something.

...so why did they remove the screenshot function from the retail client?

Screenshots are in My Documents\My Games\Hellgate London\Screenshots\

Yep, got my beta shots there. Nothing since I installed retail.

darkmayo

krylon666 wrote: »

Fartacus_the_Mighty wrote: »

krylon666 wrote: »

i saw something interesting (to me at least) on the official forums regarding weapons. a guy was looking for a certain level grey (white) item with max upgrade slots. his reasoning being that you can just make a gun that is better than the legendary by using all the upgrade slots and upgrading it in the nano-whatever machine to add legendary attributes. as the legendary items are just the base weapon with a few random legendary upgrades.

i guess this seems obvious in some ways, but the ability to choose your upgrades and end up with a better weapon is the important thing. its something i wouldn't think to do (mostly cause im still learning the mechanics of the items, but also because i'm easily impressed by all the cool stars and gold color on the legendary items).

This isn't entirely true. Green items get one special property, blue 2, legendary 3, unique 3 or 4. Many items (especially weapons, it seems) can hold a lot more than 3 properties.

Since enhancement cost is based on item level (and not rarity/properties), a blue sword with 4 mods is better than a grey sword with 4 mods. In single player, I was able to make some really awesome gear by buying/finding/crafting blue or orange stuff, then enhancing it three times. Using the enhancer isn't all that practical due to the cost, but if you hax yourself some money in single-player you can make some great equipment.

i'm not sure what part isn't entirely true though. how is a blue sword with 4 mods better than a grey sword with 4 mods if you can add better properties to the grey sword? i'm not saying it won't cost more to make weapons similar or better than the legendary - i'm just saying the implication is the 'homemade' weapons will have better stats, since you can pick the ones you want.

I personally have been upgrading sniper rifles, currently using a 6 mod one, 1 fuel 1 ammo , 2 tech, 2 battery that has been upgraded a few times with the Nano Forge, and given legendary traits 3 times with the augmentor thingy.

It one shots everything so far, cept bosses.