I think this news is particularly interesting given the fact that everyone was predicting Microsoft would pull out of the gaming industry. They saw the shutting down of FASA and the repatriation (if I can call it that) of Bungie as a sure sign that Microsoft would not be supporting future generations of Xbox consoles for long: why would they, people asked, if they aren't making any money off of it? If one game (albeit one of the biggest games in video game history) can turn around an entire division, I don't think I'd be incorrect in predicting more Halo games coming, probably from Bungie themselves.
Does this change the opinion of the naysayers? Microsoft to be bought by Nintendo in 4 years?
If I'm not mistaken this isn't the first time Microsoft has been profitable though I believe that last time was for a single month, the Halo 2 launch, and not for a quarter. Also anyone who said/says that Microsoft is going to pull out of the console business is fucking retarded as this isn't at all surprising. They did predict a profit, though the whole 3 year warranty issue put a damper on that.*
*I'm not sure if they predicted a profit for last quarter and the warranty extension made it so it didn't happen, or if that happened this quarter and they made a slight profit. Regardless this really isn't suprising.
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It'll be interesting to see whether the additional hardware market penetration that comes from the Halo 3 launch (all the Halo 1/2 people finally upgrading to a 360 just for Halo) translates into better sales of 360 games and thus a better chance of continuing profitability of the division.
The only people predicting that Microsoft would pull out of the race were the retarded people like Meiz.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
as well as literally thirty thousand posters on GAF
Exactly, retarded people.
I once went to NeoGAF to check out what all the fuss was about after I read some guff on gameblogs about it being the ultimate source of discussion for games.
The only people predicting that Microsoft would pull out of the race were the retarded people like Meiz.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
as well as literally thirty thousand posters on GAF
Exactly, retarded people.
I once went to NeoGAF to check out what all the fuss was about after I read some guff on gameblogs about it being the ultimate source of discussion for games.
After five minutes: WTF?
Dont go to gaf for conversation, but in terms of cutting edge gaming news its a one stop shop. gaf>internet>gaf
I work at EB and, just to let you guys understand just how much Halo 3 pushed 360s out the door, we had maybe 30 between the Elites and the Pros, and we sold out of all of them within a week of Halo 3's launch. And that doesn't include the Halo 3 systems we also sold.
Also, we have a couple of people who are buying 360s just for Mass Effect. I certainly imagine this trend continuing for a while. And with the new Pro Holiday bundle, I know some people in particular are planning to pick one up as well and were just waiting for a better deal.
The only people predicting that Microsoft would pull out of the race were the retarded people like Meiz.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
as well as literally thirty thousand posters on GAF
Exactly, retarded people.
I can't understand this view. They've been in the industry for six years now and losing money all the way and people say they'll leave when they just predicted their first quarter of actually being profitable in 6 years? I could understand this view before the 360 was released but now its just fucking dumb.
The only people predicting that Microsoft would pull out of the race were the retarded people like Meiz.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
It was Vicious_GSR, and a couple of other people living in crazy land where cupcakes grow from compost.
Here's the original thread from 3 months ago for hilarity's sake.
I'm glad to hear that the Xbox division is doing great, as I felt the amount of quality titles released by this point (2 years after launch) was not as good as it was for the Xbox at the same time. Hopefully, now we'll be hearing about new, awesome games after Mass Effect's launch, because Microsoft seemed to be ignoring anything past November at the tradeshows this year. This news about their profitability should only help boost the confidence of game developers, and Microsoft themselves.
I'm glad to hear that the Xbox division is doing great, as I felt the amount of quality titles released by this point (2 years after launch) was not as good as it was for the Xbox at the same time. Hopefully, now we'll be hearing about new, awesome games after Mass Effect's launch, because Microsoft seemed to be ignoring anything past November at the tradeshows this year. This news about their profitability should only help boost the confidence of game developers, and Microsoft themselves.
The last couple of tradeshows it seemed like Nintendo and Sony were doing the same thing. Personally I think it's a good thing, because you don't spend three years of tradeshow news watching cinematics or target renders, with all the news feeds clogged up because Metal Gear this or Mario that has a fifteen second video out.
Frankly anything that means that the developers can spend more time making the damn games instead of making PR fluff (this includes hands on demos 6 months out) is good in my book.
The only people predicting that Microsoft would pull out of the race were the retarded people like Meiz.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
It was Vicious_GSR, and a couple of other people living in crazy land where cupcakes grow from compost.
Here's the original thread from 3 months ago for hilarity's sake.
I'm glad to hear that the Xbox division is doing great, as I felt the amount of quality titles released by this point (2 years after launch) was not as good as it was for the Xbox at the same time. Hopefully, now we'll be hearing about new, awesome games after Mass Effect's launch, because Microsoft seemed to be ignoring anything past November at the tradeshows this year. This news about their profitability should only help boost the confidence of game developers, and Microsoft themselves.
Good for the gamer.
If anything, I imagine that Microsoft will be pushing Halo Wars really hard. That and Fable 2. I expect those to be what Microsoft hopes will continue profitability. I think they will sell well, but I don't think they will be to what Microsoft expects of them to sell.
What other games is Microsoft publishing in 2008? The only other thing I can think of is Viva Pinata.
Also, who vows to eat their own cock if Microsoft doesn't announce Gears of War 2 at or before E3?
Alan Wake is being published by Microsoft isn't it?
There's also Ninja Gaiden 2
True. Also, I just remembered about Too Human and the new Kingdom Under Fire. Still, I hope Microsoft announces something new to look forward to.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new new game announcement from Microsoft is about an unannounced Rare title. Those chaps have been far too silent for too long. Thoughts on what they are working on? They are a pretty big studio, so you could imagine them working on a couple of projects ala Viva Pinata/Kameo/PDZ. I wouldn't be surprised to see another Perfect Dark title to fill the new shooter void left by Halo, but what else might we have to look forward to?
Well, this is good news, but why in the hell would anyone believe that Microsoft would pull out of the gaming industry? That's, like, beyond stupendously retarded. I mean, clearly with Halo alone selling so poorly, Microsoft must be hating themselves for making a console [/extreme*weeeeeeguitarnoise*sarcasm].
And yes, I remember reading that thread back after E3. Laughing out of my chair.
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I don't understand why people think Microsoft would pull out even if they were still losing money. Microsoft has many interests at stake and getting a foothold in the living room no matter what is part of that. I know that I still use a windows box because of how easy it is to connect everything downstairs to my media using Windows Media Connect, I'm sure their are plenty of others who feel the same. It's the same reason they entered the PMP market.
I'm glad to hear that the Xbox division is doing great, as I felt the amount of quality titles released by this point (2 years after launch) was not as good as it was for the Xbox at the same time. Hopefully, now we'll be hearing about new, awesome games after Mass Effect's launch, because Microsoft seemed to be ignoring anything past November at the tradeshows this year. This news about their profitability should only help boost the confidence of game developers, and Microsoft themselves.
The last couple of tradeshows it seemed like Nintendo and Sony were doing the same thing. Personally I think it's a good thing, because you don't spend three years of tradeshow news watching cinematics or target renders, with all the news feeds clogged up because Metal Gear this or Mario that has a fifteen second video out.
Frankly anything that means that the developers can spend more time making the damn games instead of making PR fluff (this includes hands on demos 6 months out) is good in my book.
Excellent point, after all, Silicon Knights needs all the time they can get to keep Dennis Dyack off his medication ;-)
Alan Wake is being published by Microsoft isn't it?
There's also Ninja Gaiden 2
True. Also, I just remembered about Too Human and the new Kingdom Under Fire. Still, I hope Microsoft announces something new to look forward to.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new new game announcement from Microsoft is about an unannounced Rare title. Those chaps have been far too silent for too long. Thoughts on what they are working on? They are a pretty big studio, so you could imagine them working on a couple of projects ala Viva Pinata/Kameo/PDZ. I wouldn't be surprised to see another Perfect Dark title to fill the new shooter void left by Halo, but what else might we have to look forward to?
they're working on Viva Pinata Party Animals, a DS version of Viva Pinata, and a PC Port of Viva Pinata
Yeah, Dyack needs to be reined in but I think the general points that he tries to make about the games industry are solid, even if he takes them a bit too far in his 'proposals'.
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Ah that Vicious thread was a delight to remember. MS hasn't announced anything for 08 ('cept for the fact that that's false), so therefore there isn't anything for 08? Right buddy.
Alan Wake is being published by Microsoft isn't it?
There's also Ninja Gaiden 2
True. Also, I just remembered about Too Human and the new Kingdom Under Fire. Still, I hope Microsoft announces something new to look forward to.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new new game announcement from Microsoft is about an unannounced Rare title. Those chaps have been far too silent for too long. Thoughts on what they are working on? They are a pretty big studio, so you could imagine them working on a couple of projects ala Viva Pinata/Kameo/PDZ. I wouldn't be surprised to see another Perfect Dark title to fill the new shooter void left by Halo, but what else might we have to look forward to?
they're working on Viva Pinata Party Animals, a DS version of Viva Pinata, and a PC Port of Viva Pinata
Actually, Viva Pinata: Party Animals is being developed by Krome Studios.
Oh, and there is also Banjo 3 from assfuckton a while ago.
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I don't understand. So Microsoft has run a loss over these years and this is starting a trend to bring profitability therefore, what, lets ignore it? Sorry, this isn't going to fly. I'd say this is a positive step in the right direction and I think pretty much every non-Malthusian would agree. The sky isn't falling.
The success of Bioshock has me thinking about something. I'm wondering if the interest of the hardcore gamers somehow transfered over to a lot of moderately-casual players, or if it was just a successful marketing/advertising campaign that made it so successful.
If it was word of mouth from the harcore market, then I wonder how things will turn out for games like Alan Wake and Fallout 3, that are also successors to fondly remembered series.
Speaking of Alan Wake, that's been kind of MIA for the year, hasn't it? I hope it gets a big push at the tradeshows next year, and actually gets out the door by next fall.
The success of Bioshock has me thinking about something. I'm wondering if the interest of the hardcore gamers somehow transfered over to a lot of moderately-casual players, or if it was just a successful marketing/advertising campaign that made it so successful.
If it was word of mouth from the harcore market, then I wonder how things will turn out for games like Alan Wake and Fallout 3, that are also successors to fondly remembered series.
Speaking of Alan Wake, that's been kind of MIA for the year, hasn't it? I hope it gets a big push at the tradeshows next year, and actually gets out the door by next fall.
I think what sold Bioshock more than any of that was that it was the best game of the year. But I also have to say that at my EB, whenever somebody was looking for a new muse for their 360, my co-workers and I insisted on Bioshock. So I think its a little bit of both.
I think the only reason we haven't heard a lot about Alan Wake is because much of the stuff we saw before seemed to be conceptual in nature, showing off the atmosphere of the game more than anything else. I believe they are aiming for a 2008 release date, so I'm sure we'll see more by E3. But wtf, Alan Wake is successor? To what? Surely you don't mean Max Payne.
The success of Bioshock has me thinking about something. I'm wondering if the interest of the hardcore gamers somehow transfered over to a lot of moderately-casual players, or if it was just a successful marketing/advertising campaign that made it so successful.
If it was word of mouth from the harcore market, then I wonder how things will turn out for games like Alan Wake and Fallout 3, that are also successors to fondly remembered series.
Speaking of Alan Wake, that's been kind of MIA for the year, hasn't it? I hope it gets a big push at the tradeshows next year, and actually gets out the door by next fall.
I think what sold Bioshock more than any of that was that it was the best game of the year. But I also have to say that at my EB, whenever somebody was looking for a new muse for their 360, my co-workers and I insisted on Bioshock. So I think its a little bit of both.
I think the only reason we haven't heard a lot about Alan Wake is because much of the stuff we saw before seemed to be conceptual in nature, showing off the atmosphere of the game more than anything else. I believe they are aiming for a 2008 release date, so I'm sure we'll see more by E3. But wtf, Alan Wake is successor? To what? Surely you don't mean Max Payne.
Stylistically, not necessarily in gameplay terms. Besides, every time I read about it Max Payne is brought up, so it's definitely being billed that way to some extent.
The success of Bioshock has me thinking about something. I'm wondering if the interest of the hardcore gamers somehow transfered over to a lot of moderately-casual players, or if it was just a successful marketing/advertising campaign that made it so successful.
If it was word of mouth from the harcore market, then I wonder how things will turn out for games like Alan Wake and Fallout 3, that are also successors to fondly remembered series.
Speaking of Alan Wake, that's been kind of MIA for the year, hasn't it? I hope it gets a big push at the tradeshows next year, and actually gets out the door by next fall.
I think what sold Bioshock more than any of that was that it was the best game of the year. But I also have to say that at my EB, whenever somebody was looking for a new muse for their 360, my co-workers and I insisted on Bioshock. So I think its a little bit of both.
I think the only reason we haven't heard a lot about Alan Wake is because much of the stuff we saw before seemed to be conceptual in nature, showing off the atmosphere of the game more than anything else. I believe they are aiming for a 2008 release date, so I'm sure we'll see more by E3. But wtf, Alan Wake is successor? To what? Surely you don't mean Max Payne.
Stylistically, not necessarily in gameplay terms. Besides, every time I read about it Max Payne is brought up, so it's definitely being billed that way to some extent.
I hope it does have similar story telling to Max Payne. Max Payne 2 was probably the most fun I've ever had in a game and I demand a sequel.
Stylistically, not necessarily in gameplay terms. Besides, every time I read about it Max Payne is brought up, so it's definitely being billed that way to some extent.
Well, I guess in the same way that everytime Blizzard has a new game someone mentions Diablo 2 and Starcraft, that's what's happening here.
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*I'm not sure if they predicted a profit for last quarter and the warranty extension made it so it didn't happen, or if that happened this quarter and they made a slight profit. Regardless this really isn't suprising.
wasn't GSK or someone also preaching that
as well as literally thirty thousand posters on GAF
Exactly, retarded people.
I once went to NeoGAF to check out what all the fuss was about after I read some guff on gameblogs about it being the ultimate source of discussion for games.
After five minutes: WTF?
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Dont go to gaf for conversation, but in terms of cutting edge gaming news its a one stop shop. gaf>internet>gaf
Also, we have a couple of people who are buying 360s just for Mass Effect. I certainly imagine this trend continuing for a while. And with the new Pro Holiday bundle, I know some people in particular are planning to pick one up as well and were just waiting for a better deal.
I can't understand this view. They've been in the industry for six years now and losing money all the way and people say they'll leave when they just predicted their first quarter of actually being profitable in 6 years? I could understand this view before the 360 was released but now its just fucking dumb.
It was Vicious_GSR, and a couple of other people living in crazy land where cupcakes grow from compost.
Here's the original thread from 3 months ago for hilarity's sake.
I'm glad to hear that the Xbox division is doing great, as I felt the amount of quality titles released by this point (2 years after launch) was not as good as it was for the Xbox at the same time. Hopefully, now we'll be hearing about new, awesome games after Mass Effect's launch, because Microsoft seemed to be ignoring anything past November at the tradeshows this year. This news about their profitability should only help boost the confidence of game developers, and Microsoft themselves.
Good for the gamer.
Hahahaha
Oh, Meiz. I hope he wasn't kidding.
The last couple of tradeshows it seemed like Nintendo and Sony were doing the same thing. Personally I think it's a good thing, because you don't spend three years of tradeshow news watching cinematics or target renders, with all the news feeds clogged up because Metal Gear this or Mario that has a fifteen second video out.
Frankly anything that means that the developers can spend more time making the damn games instead of making PR fluff (this includes hands on demos 6 months out) is good in my book.
If anything, I imagine that Microsoft will be pushing Halo Wars really hard. That and Fable 2. I expect those to be what Microsoft hopes will continue profitability. I think they will sell well, but I don't think they will be to what Microsoft expects of them to sell.
What other games is Microsoft publishing in 2008? The only other thing I can think of is Viva Pinata.
Also, who vows to eat their own cock if Microsoft doesn't announce Gears of War 2 at or before E3?
There's also Ninja Gaiden 2
He better not have been. I PMed the avatar and sig chosen in the sales thread.
True. Also, I just remembered about Too Human and the new Kingdom Under Fire. Still, I hope Microsoft announces something new to look forward to.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new new game announcement from Microsoft is about an unannounced Rare title. Those chaps have been far too silent for too long. Thoughts on what they are working on? They are a pretty big studio, so you could imagine them working on a couple of projects ala Viva Pinata/Kameo/PDZ. I wouldn't be surprised to see another Perfect Dark title to fill the new shooter void left by Halo, but what else might we have to look forward to?
And yes, I remember reading that thread back after E3. Laughing out of my chair.
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Excellent point, after all, Silicon Knights needs all the time they can get to keep Dennis Dyack off his medication ;-)
they're working on Viva Pinata Party Animals, a DS version of Viva Pinata, and a PC Port of Viva Pinata
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Actually, Viva Pinata: Party Animals is being developed by Krome Studios.
Oh, and there is also Banjo 3 from assfuckton a while ago.
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I don't understand. So Microsoft has run a loss over these years and this is starting a trend to bring profitability therefore, what, lets ignore it? Sorry, this isn't going to fly. I'd say this is a positive step in the right direction and I think pretty much every non-Malthusian would agree. The sky isn't falling.
ahahaha I'd forgotten about that crazy old thread, bloody funny!
If it was word of mouth from the harcore market, then I wonder how things will turn out for games like Alan Wake and Fallout 3, that are also successors to fondly remembered series.
Speaking of Alan Wake, that's been kind of MIA for the year, hasn't it? I hope it gets a big push at the tradeshows next year, and actually gets out the door by next fall.
I think what sold Bioshock more than any of that was that it was the best game of the year. But I also have to say that at my EB, whenever somebody was looking for a new muse for their 360, my co-workers and I insisted on Bioshock. So I think its a little bit of both.
I think the only reason we haven't heard a lot about Alan Wake is because much of the stuff we saw before seemed to be conceptual in nature, showing off the atmosphere of the game more than anything else. I believe they are aiming for a 2008 release date, so I'm sure we'll see more by E3. But wtf, Alan Wake is successor? To what? Surely you don't mean Max Payne.
Stylistically, not necessarily in gameplay terms. Besides, every time I read about it Max Payne is brought up, so it's definitely being billed that way to some extent.
I hope it does have similar story telling to Max Payne. Max Payne 2 was probably the most fun I've ever had in a game and I demand a sequel.
Well, I guess in the same way that everytime Blizzard has a new game someone mentions Diablo 2 and Starcraft, that's what's happening here.