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Tutorials, Questions, and Discussion Thread

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  • Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Munch wrote:
    So, I just bought a scanner and want to post some art from my sketchbook, but most of the things in it aren't terribly finished. So, should I take the 15+ scans I have and dump them all in the Doodle thread, or can I just go ahead and open my own thread to keep using, and get some general crits? I'm conflicted since I don't want to just toss a whole bunch of crap in the Doodle thread in one go, but the rules also say not to start threads with unfinished type work. Despite posting here for a long time I'm kind of wary when it comes to tempting the ire of the AC regulars.

    If you're serious enough about them, make a thread.

    Maybe even work a piece more to have it as a showcase for the thread?

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  • PenguinoPenguino Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Anyone have a process/tips for colouring linework (in either Flash, PS, or Freehand)? I think the ink bottle tool in Flash is ok, but it's hard to make it do what I want it to.

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  • Ape2001Ape2001 Otaku Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Hm, I'm a bit surprised since Flash is pretty pleasing when it comes to colouring, especially in the comic way you seem to use it.
    Do you really mean the ink bottle or the bucket ^^'? Because the bucket has this nice ability close gaps.

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  • PenguinoPenguino Registered User
    edited November 2006
    I use the ink bottle, but say I wanted to do an outline in blue of the main body, it would not only go around the body but go around the shoes (or whatever) as well, 'cos there's nothing to diffentiate it...Unless I put it on separate layers. I might put up an example of what I mean, but I'm watching Friends atm :P

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  • Ape2001Ape2001 Otaku Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Hm, that's what the ink bottle is for ^^' For lines...I didn't really know that.

    Then just select the needed lines with the cursor and change the colour in the properties panel ^^'

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Tell me, in this painting tutorial with Bobby Chiu, what is that small window he has open? (The smaller one with the picture in it)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w1fIVwSEfc&mode=related&search=

  • PenguinoPenguino Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Watch it all the way through :P

    You'll find that he goes to the Window tab then Arrange > New Window for "Filename"

    Edit> How on earth do I create (draw and colour) a convincing chalkboard eraser?

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  • LlyLly Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Tam wrote:
    Tell me, in this painting tutorial with Bobby Chiu, what is that small window he has open? (The smaller one with the picture in it)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w1fIVwSEfc&mode=related&search=
    Yeah he explains it in the last minute. Also great link, they are really interesting to watch and listen to. In particular the Geisha one where he discusses warm up exercises and how he studies other peoples art. Great stuff.

  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Lly wrote:
    Tam wrote:
    Tell me, in this painting tutorial with Bobby Chiu, what is that small window he has open? (The smaller one with the picture in it)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w1fIVwSEfc&mode=related&search=
    Yeah he explains it in the last minute. Also great link, they are really interesting to watch and listen to. In particular the Geisha one where he discusses warm up exercises and how he studies other peoples art. Great stuff.

    Yep, got em off the Concept Art forums.

  • AumniAumni Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Is there a way to get that small window open in Corel Painter? I don't see the option that Photoshop has unfortunately :(

    EDIT: Show Info works kinda similar, but its a small window and you can't draw directly on it :\


    Bah.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I've got a black lineart sketch on a white background in a single layer. How can I cleanly lift the lines onto a separate layer in photoshop?

  • SublimusSublimus AustinRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    hahaha, Wak. You always bust out that same tut.

  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Its the one I started on. Its so simple and to the point a retarded monkey could follow it.

    And I still use that same technique for my outlines. Its great.

  • PiousPious Registered User
    edited November 2006
    I have 11 bucks to spend, what should I buy?

    I was looking at this book http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780439736473&itm=42

    Is that a good book?

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  • EhmaviscaEhmavisca Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Guys, I really need some money.

    What's the best way to go about getting commisions for art?

  • RavenshadowRavenshadow Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Scosglen wrote:
    I've got a black lineart sketch on a white background in a single layer. How can I cleanly lift the lines onto a separate layer in photoshop?

    aside from what wakk posted you can also dupe the layer (so its not the background layer) convert it to greyscale. Select the grey channel, invert the selection and delete. should nuke all the white area. then select all and fill it in with black (on the fill select the option that doesn't color in transparent areas). That'll darken the lines some.

    Then you can copy the layer a few times until you get it as dark as you want. You'll still have to do some clean up, but that's usually how I start.

    That's why I like the AC. Just the right combination of stupid butt-fuckery and verbal masturbation to suit my needs.
  • MagicToasterMagicToaster Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Guys, I really need some money.

    What's the best way to go about getting commisions for art?

    Get a directory for advertising agencies call them all and see who's shorthanded, you'll have work for a month.

    That's how I got I got my first jobs.

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  • RyeRye Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Frank's TMND wrote:
    Guys, I really need some money.

    What's the best way to go about getting commisions for art?


    It's sometimes hard to do art for money. You find yourself weighing personal aesthetics against customer demands. I know it's obvious, but I just wanted to throw that out there before you get started. Some (it may seem like more, but only because of a vocal minority) find a happy medium and still retain their own styles through products, while many others become a slave to design.

    In order to become an invaluable commission artist, you need to be VERY flexible. I wish someone had told me that before I started.

    (just my 2 cents)

  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I've been experimenting with a new illustration technique involving a water soluble graphite pencil (to good results might I add!) and a brush. I did a test drawing on my old beater general use 60lb strathmore sketchpad but the paper wrinkles up a little bit in places where the water soaks in too much as one might expect from paper meant for dry media. Can anyone suggest a cheap brand that's good for this sort of water-washing thing?

  • RavenshadowRavenshadow Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Scosglen wrote:
    I've been experimenting with a new illustration technique involving a water soluble graphite pencil (to good results might I add!) and a brush. I did a test drawing on my old beater general use 60lb strathmore sketchpad but the paper wrinkles up a little bit in places where the water soaks in too much as one might expect from paper meant for dry media. Can anyone suggest a cheap brand that's good for this sort of water-washing thing?

    strathmore makes good water color paper. that should work I'ld think

    That's why I like the AC. Just the right combination of stupid butt-fuckery and verbal masturbation to suit my needs.
  • EhmaviscaEhmavisca Registered User
    edited November 2006
    A guy wants a sample of a hentai pinup. 0_0

    I wasn't going to do it.

    Then he said, "$150".

    I've been surfing for hardcore porn all day doing research, but I realized, he hasn't mentioned anything about a contract or whatever, he just said he could send the money through paypal, which is cool, but how should I go about this?

  • PiousPious Registered User
    edited November 2006
    Guys, I really need some money.

    What's the best way to go about getting commisions for art?

    Get a directory for advertising agencies call them all and see who's shorthanded, you'll have work for a month.

    That's how I got I got my first jobs.

    Wait, where is that directory in the phone book, what should I say, what should I do, what,WHAT,WHAT?

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  • The_Indigo_ApocalypseThe_Indigo_Apocalypse Registered User
    edited November 2006
    A guy wants a sample of a hentai pinup. 0_0

    I wasn't going to do it.

    Then he said, "$150".

    I've been surfing for hardcore porn all day doing research, but I realized, he hasn't mentioned anything about a contract or whatever, he just said he could send the money through paypal, which is cool, but how should I go about this?

    hmmm, the fact that you don't have a contract and he says he'll send you the money through PayPal seems a wee bit shifty to me.

    If you're not goign to do a contract (you don't have to wait for him to mention it--you could just bring it up if it makes you feel better), you might ask for part of the money up-front.

  • The CelestialThe Celestial Registered User
    edited November 2006
    I will contract you to do hentai Frank but all I have to offer are these horrific Habanero Death Rings that I sent to SPI and Spex.

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  • EhmaviscaEhmavisca Registered User
    edited November 2006
    I will contract you to do hentai Frank but all I have to offer are these horrific Habanero Death Rings that I sent to SPI and Spex.

    o0;;..........

    ..

    yeah. Well, he said I will send a voucher. How does this work?

  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Do you guys have any tips for good web compression with minimal artifacting? Usually I save my stuff as a jpeg from photoshop with max quality and resize it in paint but It always looks awful.

  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    What the hell do you resize it in paint for??

  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    It's easy :S

    Also I'm dumb. I never thought resizing was different between programs.

  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    Starting up a new program, saving out a new file, resizing it and then saving it is easier than just hitting Image>Image Size? o_O

    If you want it to look like you did it in MSPaint, you can always set the Resample Image setting to "Nearest Neighbor" which pixelates everything, instead of "Bicubic" which anti-aliases it.

  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    truth be told It's a habit from a couple years back when I didn't have a tablet and I could only scan my stuff in, I resized it in paint because I didn't have photoshop. I guess when I was new to photoshop I didn't know all the thingies and kept using paint for some inexplicable reason o.o

    So, aside from using PS to resize, are there any other voodoo tricks for better quality?

  • MagicToasterMagicToaster Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    "Nearest Neighbor" pixelates everything, instead of "Bicubic" which anti-aliases it.

    Can you explain this a bit more?

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    nearest neighbor: picks a color directly from a single pixel from the original image and keeps it in the resized version. If you're scaling something up, it makes it so it looks like the pixels are HUGE! If you're scaling down, you get "jaggies" where the difference between the pixels are far too sharp.

    bicubic: Samples all pixels and blends/interprets them together when resizing. If you scale up, you get a very soft bluriness. Scaling down, it gets rid of jaggies by blending together the original pixels into a composite color rather than the exact color of one of the original pixels.

    Good uses for nearest neighbor: scaling up sprites, to retain "spriteliness".

    Good uses for bicubic: almost everything else.

  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    nearest neighbor: picks a color directly from a single pixel from the original image and keeps it in the resized version. If you're scaling something up, it makes it so it looks like the pixels are HUGE! If you're scaling down, you get "jaggies" where the difference between the pixels are far too sharp.

    bicubic: Samples all pixels and blends/interprets them together when resizing. If you scale up, you get a very soft bluriness. Scaling down, it gets rid of jaggies by blending together the original pixels into a composite color rather than the exact color of one of the original pixels.

    Good uses for nearest neighbor: scaling up sprites, to retain "spriteliness".

    Good uses for bicubic: almost everything else.

    The more you know...

    Mr. Bacon, I was wondering, since you're awesome at art and all, how is it that one starts blending colors? I've been trying this "light usually doesn't use local values" thing, but I find myself totally lost on what to do.

  • Chop LogicChop Logic Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Anyone know of anywhere I can find some pictures of female hands, or some sort of guide on drawing female hands? I Have Figure Drawing by Loomis but in three it doesnt really discern between female and male hands as far as I can tell (I'm sure its in there somewhere), and online all I can find is male hands. I'm trying to draw something for my girlfreind, and obviously, I cant use mine as a refrence.

    Thanks.

  • NightDragonNightDragon Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    A guy wants a sample of a hentai pinup. 0_0

    I wasn't going to do it.

    Then he said, "$150".


    I always wondered how much somebody would have to pay me to draw something like that. Considering how I'm strapped for cash right now, I'd totally do it. lol

    In any case...a simple contract, in which you ask for half up-front, should be sufficient enough. Just make sure they don't try to completely destroy you - read all the fine print.

    I just had to read through a contract that was pretty horrible, and I still have to write back to the guy with the changes. Don't hesitate to speak your mind!

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    Tam wrote:
    Mr. Bacon, I was wondering, since you're awesome at art and all, how is it that one starts blending colors? I've been trying this "light usually doesn't use local values" thing, but I find myself totally lost on what to do.

    Buddy, you just said a mouthful. I'm not really sure how to proceed, it's almost a big a question as "how do I draw?" However, I'll try to give it a shot and hopefully at least some of it will make sense and/or be helpful.

    The basic thing to know is that the color of an object at any given spot is effected by the color of the light hitting it there; places being hit directly by a noon-time sun will be given a yellowish tint, where something being hit by a sunset will be more orangish/red, etc.

    Now, where shadows are concerned you may end up with an entirely different coloration, depending on how the direct light is bouncing off of the surrounding environment. For example, on a clear, sunny day the sunlight will still be yellowish, but since the light is also being refelected off a blue sky, the shadow areas facing the sky will take on a bluish tint. If the object is on, a moderately reflective red floor, the shadows can take on a red tint. In a situation where there is no reflected light, such as in space, away from any starts or planets, or in a black-painted room or the like, the shadows will be entirely, 100% black.

    Of course, reflected light will also be present in the non-shadow areas, but it will be less noticable due to the direct light already hitting it.

    As to where to start, I'd reccomend taking up painting still lifes without doing prior pencil sketching with to practice describing form with tone, collor and planes instead of relying on line. Don't try to blend the values, just focus on placing single, bold, clearly defined planes of color, so you really have to look to see what the color really is on the object, not assuming 'this area is this color, this area is this color, so now I just have to blend between them to fill the in between area".

    If you're having trouble wrapping your head around all this junk to begin with, start with a limited palette just to get the planing thing down. Black on grey ground with big brushes, no erasing; then add white, then burnt sienna and ultramarine blue, then keep adding colors individually until you work your way up to a full palette.

  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Tam wrote:
    Mr. Bacon, I was wondering, since you're awesome at art and all, how is it that one starts blending colors? I've been trying this "light usually doesn't use local values" thing, but I find myself totally lost on what to do.

    *AOB replies with HUEG and helpful message.

    Many thanks, sifu.

  • Google Image SearchGoogle Image Search Registered User
    edited November 2006
    I have a question about Illustrator. Is there any way to make transparency only effect two different objects? I'm pretty familiar with it but have no idea how to do that specifically, so far I've only been able to make it transparent to everything else.

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  • GrifterGrifter TorontoSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    Locked and unstickied since this thread is getting a little large in size.

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