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Guitar Hero 3. GH Aerosmith to be the stupidest thing you buy this year.

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  • iusehappymodiusehappymod Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I find most of those songs very boring to play.

    but then again, I've never liked the first to tiers in any version, just because I fall asleep playing it.


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  • Blake TBlake T Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Geeeeeoff wrote: »
    How can people be knocking the first two tiers of Guitar Hero 3?

    Slow Ride, Talk Dirty to Me, Hit Me With Your Best Shot, Rock and Roll all Nite, Mississippi Queen, School's Out, Sunshine of Your Love, Barracuda, and Bulls on Parade are all kick ass classic tunes.

    You guys suck. The only one I REALLY don't like in the first two tiers is Story of My Life, because it's really long and boring.

    God I am so sick of this.

    All of these songs are GREAT songs.

    All of these songs however are NOT all GREAT GUITAR songs. (school's out for summer is a pretty fine tune)

    Almost all of the songs in GH2 I didn't know as well as the songs in GH3 I've enjoyed them far more because they are FUN SONGS TO PLAY.

  • iusehappymodiusehappymod Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    In other news: I've made it 80% of the way through Fire and Flames. I will prevail.


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    An ineffable tragedy of the human spirit that still resonates, even today.
  • GeeeeeoffGeeeeeoff Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Well I guess I have fun playing songs I know and like... I suppose it's a difference of opinion. I guess it might have something to do with the fact that I'm bad enough at the game to be challenged by the first two tiers on Hard.

  • Blake TBlake T Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Holding the green note and mashing the strum bar for baracuda is not my idea of fun.

  • glithertglithert Snortin' K Luthor's towerRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Blowflu wrote: »
    Then I get to Raining Blood, one of the songs I was most excited about playing. And then I get to the 4-note sweeps that go on for a half a day. Why couldn't they have just made the song another Misourlu @ that point and go with how the song IS ACTUALLY PLAYED ON THE GUITAR (fucking fast as hell strumming).

    Really? It looked allright to me(but I can't play guitar, so whatever).

    Once, while I was playing that shitknot song, my friend(who can play guitar) said "...the hell? those aren't..., you, you could play this shit with two fingers!"

    So I have to wonder-Why? correct me if I'm wrong, but shitknot isn't that popular. so why bother intentionally screwing up the chart so it's hard enough to be in the game?

    for that matter, why focus on the hardcore community? Wouldn't an easier, party kind of game sell more?

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Newsflash: Guitar Hero was never accurate to how the song is played. It's how the song sounds that they try to replicate with the note charts.

  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I really love the song selection in this game, but my only complaint is really that it is too hard. I mean, in the other games I made it through hard with a bit of work, and then most of expert. Now, I can't see myself making it through hard at all. I'm just completely and utterly stuck on Queens of the Stone Age and Slipknot on hard. I can at least see myself getting good enough to pass QotSA at some point, but I quite honestly cannot at all see myself ever being able to beat the Slipknot song. Even if I make it through that maddening opening I'm usually so beat to hell that I'm done not too long after.


    Wahoo! Someone else in EXACTLY the same place as me. I just cheated and unlocked all the songs so I can play the game multiplayer when friends come round. Unlike GH2 I don't have any inclination to practice and get much better to beat these songs. I'm holding out till Rockband now.

    How far through the songs can you get? I hit about 80% of QOTSA and 50% of slipknot

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  • StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    Holding the green note and mashing the strum bar for baracuda is not my idea of fun.

    You could try strumming instead of mashing. It's a nifty riff.

  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Thanks for making the new thread, Gert! I have no problems with you handling the OP, honestly, but if you don't want to hassle with updating it periodically (not that there are really going to be major updates anymore, though), I can restart another thread. No big, though we should have the compatibility chart:

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    Monoxide wrote: »
    Newsflash: Guitar Hero was never accurate to how the song is played. It's how the song sounds that they try to replicate with the note charts.

    There definitely is a sense of difficulty inflation on the Expert level, though. On a lot of songs Hard is truer to how the song both sounds and plays; Expert is just made artificially difficult. E.g., in the Mosh section of Raining Blood, to me it sounds like all those runs are triplets. Changing them into four-note runs is just ScoreHero wankery. And most of the three-note-chord switches in songs like Before I Forget and the Disturbed tune are just awkward.

    I can play through the songs just fine, and I'm normally the type of rhythm gamer that likes more difficulty ... but it's really not being applied well, IMO.

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  • Radikal_DreamerRadikal_Dreamer Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Mr_Grinch wrote: »
    I really love the song selection in this game, but my only complaint is really that it is too hard. I mean, in the other games I made it through hard with a bit of work, and then most of expert. Now, I can't see myself making it through hard at all. I'm just completely and utterly stuck on Queens of the Stone Age and Slipknot on hard. I can at least see myself getting good enough to pass QotSA at some point, but I quite honestly cannot at all see myself ever being able to beat the Slipknot song. Even if I make it through that maddening opening I'm usually so beat to hell that I'm done not too long after.


    Wahoo! Someone else in EXACTLY the same place as me. I just cheated and unlocked all the songs so I can play the game multiplayer when friends come round. Unlike GH2 I don't have any inclination to practice and get much better to beat these songs. I'm holding out till Rockband now.

    How far through the songs can you get? I hit about 80% of QOTSA and 50% of slipknot

    Most of the time I can only get through like 10-15% of Sipknot, though I think one time I got up to 25-30%. For QOTSA most of thet ime it's about 30-40%, I think.

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  • GeeeeeoffGeeeeeoff Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah that Queens of the Stone Age song is a bitch on hard... I got mad at it and decided to 5-star some songs on Medium. (Including 3's and 7's for revenge!!)

  • El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So, I've been HINTING STRONGLY to the girlfriend that I want GH3 for Christmas, so she's asking me which one to get, where to find it, etc. The thing is, the 360 version seems to be AWOL. I looked in stores this weekend, and there were stacks of the guitar/game combos for every console except the 360. So I started looking online, and it seems to be universal that every retailer is short or out. Amazon actually jacked the price to $140! WTF?

    On a related note, I walked into my local Gamestop last week. They had signs and posters everywhere for GH3 and a special area just for the doodads (overpriced garbage) related to the game. Of course, when I asked if they actually had a copy I got the drone of the slave "Did you preorder it?" I was so mad I didn't even answer him, and if I could have slammed the door on my way out I would have.




  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    Holding the green note and mashing the strum bar for baracuda is not my idea of fun.

    Learning how to alt-strum these galloping triplets (groups of three notes) isn't too hard and will help you immensely in this, Raining Blood and a bunch of other tunes. I did it by going into practice mode and starting at a slow pace: Work with a "down-up-down, PAUSE, up-down-up, PAUSE" motion, which feels really awkward at first, but you'll get used to the timing.

    I had to do this for about 20 minutes to pump up my Raining Blood score; I'm still within a few thousands points of 5-starring it on Expert!

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  • LegacyLegacy SCP Of The Digital Frontier The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    Blaket wrote: »
    Holding the green note and mashing the strum bar for baracuda is not my idea of fun.

    Learning how to alt-strum these galloping triplets (groups of three notes) isn't too hard and will help you immensely in this, Raining Blood and a bunch of other tunes. I did it by going into practice mode and starting at a slow pace: Work with a "down-up-down, PAUSE, up-down-up, PAUSE" motion, which feels really awkward at first, but you'll get used to the timing.

    I had to do this for about 20 minutes to pump up my Raining Blood score; I'm still within a few thousands points of 5-starring it on Expert!

    Also, the strum window is so open that you can usually find a rhythm and just alt-strum without a break and get them all.

    Can we get the chemicals in. 'Cause anything's better than this.
  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Legacy wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Blaket wrote: »
    Holding the green note and mashing the strum bar for baracuda is not my idea of fun.

    Learning how to alt-strum these galloping triplets (groups of three notes) isn't too hard and will help you immensely in this, Raining Blood and a bunch of other tunes. I did it by going into practice mode and starting at a slow pace: Work with a "down-up-down, PAUSE, up-down-up, PAUSE" motion, which feels really awkward at first, but you'll get used to the timing.

    I had to do this for about 20 minutes to pump up my Raining Blood score; I'm still within a few thousands points of 5-starring it on Expert!

    Also, the strum window is so open that you can usually find a rhythm and just alt-strum without a break and get them all.

    This is what I did in Raining Blood (it's a bit slower in Barracuda) until I one time I realized that I could just do it the right way. Once I finally beat RB, that mental barrier that had been there disappeared, and I found I could beat the song pretty easily. Now, I just have to be able to get through the first two hard sections without using star power so that I can get a 5-star score (then I will have 5-starred all of the expert non-bonus songs!).

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    Mr. G wrote: »
    So, there's a video of Kurt Cobain in [Guitar Hero 5] out. I feel dirty watching this, he just looks wrong.

    Well Cobain's mo-cap session was completely useless, so you can't blame them.
  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    The loose HOPO system in this game is ruining my ability to play them normally. I fiddled with the Rock Band demo and was horrified at how badly i bungled HOPOs. Once I realized what I was doing and started being more careful I did OK, but I was still having a harder time than I used to with them.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I have a question since I haven't been able to check it out yet:

    How many finishes do the included guitars have on average? Still three? Or are there more options?
    Anybody?

  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I have a question since I haven't been able to check it out yet:

    How many finishes do the included guitars have on average? Still three? Or are there more options?
    Anybody?

    yeah im not sure about how many, but i can tell you the finish sucks.

    i don't abuse my electronics or games, and the pumpkins faceplate already has scratches on it. needless to say, im quite pissed about it.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I have a question since I haven't been able to check it out yet:

    How many finishes do the included guitars have on average? Still three? Or are there more options?
    Anybody?

    It varies by guitar, i think some of them have more, but 3 seems to be roughly average, just going from memory.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    arcath wrote: »
    I have a question since I haven't been able to check it out yet:

    How many finishes do the included guitars have on average? Still three? Or are there more options?
    Anybody?

    yeah im not sure about how many, but i can tell you the finish sucks.

    i don't abuse my electronics or games, and the pumpkins faceplate already has scratches on it. needless to say, im quite pissed about it.
    I meant in the game...

  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    As far as the actual physical faceplates.. They were selling that Sex Pistols faceplate at best buy for 1 penny, and nobody was buying. I think the black looks fine, and I'm not ready to proclaim my allegiance to any of the sub-par bands the faceplates were available for.

    Smashing Pumpkins? Yeah, fuck yourself Billy Corgan. I enjoy playing cherrub rock, but your ego doesn't get one more voluntary penny from me.

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    meh, minus darcy and james, it doesn't feel like pumpkins. But I like the new album and art for the cover so I bought the faceplate.

    And i got the free sex pistols faceplate just to repaint when i get bored.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I want a faceplate in the roseburst goddess finish style from GH2

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  • AthenorAthenor Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah. I was kind of surprised that they didn't include the in-game finishes for the faceplates. Then again, I guess the whole idea is that you are a "legend," and maybe the faceplate thing was a way to keep the cost of the songs down.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I'll just stick with the black then.

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  • GeeeeeoffGeeeeeoff Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I have a question since I haven't been able to check it out yet:

    How many finishes do the included guitars have on average? Still three? Or are there more options?
    Anybody?

    I think some of them have up to 5 finishes, while others have none.

  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So, what's the dollar cost per song with the DLC for this game? Somewhere around $2 per song it seems?

    How much is it for Rock Band DLC? I've already got a PS2 guitar and I'm not sure how much I want to spend an extra $30 or $40 for the 360 version.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    GH3 is 7 bucks for 3 songs.

    Rock Band is still unknown, rumored to be lower, I think.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Ok, so what the fuck Neversoft?

    The 100 million career achievement. Even across all four difficulties, your bonus songs don't count toward your career score. I've five-starred all of Medium, on my way to 100%ing all of Easy (and most of Medium as well), five-starred all but two songs on Expert, and beaten everything except Raining Blood on Expert. My total is coming close to 40 million or so.

    100 million doesn't even seem mathematically possible.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Multiple bands?

    EDIT: Oh. Multiplayer. You can do every difficulty over and score almost twice as much since you add all the bass notes. Shit, if you totally fucking rocked, you could almost get the 100m with the multiplayer alone.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Erandus wrote: »
    Multiple bands?

    EDIT: Oh. Multiplayer. You can do every difficulty over and score almost twice as much since you add all the bass notes. Shit, if you totally fucking rocked, you could almost get the 100m with the multiplayer alone.

    Then fuck Neversoft (and all other game developers) for putting way too much priority on multiplayer achievements.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I really never plan on playing the game online, so yeah, I feel the same way. There's a shitload of achievements I'll never end up with cause I really just don't feel like playing their shitty battle mode or really any sort of non co-op mode.

    I like to play these games to rock WITH people, not rock MORE than people and then break my guitar over their head and take a shit on their shoes. Come to think of it, this is probably why I don't really play any games on Live.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Ok, so what the fuck Neversoft?

    The 100 million career achievement. Even across all four difficulties, your bonus songs don't count toward your career score. I've five-starred all of Medium, on my way to 100%ing all of Easy (and most of Medium as well), five-starred all but two songs on Expert, and beaten everything except Raining Blood on Expert. My total is coming close to 40 million or so.

    100 million doesn't even seem mathematically possible.

    I thought it was 100 million campaign points, which is different than your career total. You can play the same song a thousand times and if it totals 100 million, you'll get the achievement. It isn't possible to get a 100 million career score, since you'd need 2.56 million points or more on each of the 39 main setlist songs (42 minus 3 bosses).

    It's like the 250,000 notes played achievement, which is cumulative, not 250,000 notes across your best playthrough of each of the songs.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Earn 100,000,000 total in Career.

    That's the exact description. If it's the way you actually you said it, that's a relief, and proof that they need to choose their wording better.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Monoxide wrote: »
    Ok, so what the fuck Neversoft?

    The 100 million career achievement. Even across all four difficulties, your bonus songs don't count toward your career score. I've five-starred all of Medium, on my way to 100%ing all of Easy (and most of Medium as well), five-starred all but two songs on Expert, and beaten everything except Raining Blood on Expert. My total is coming close to 40 million or so.

    100 million doesn't even seem mathematically possible.

    I thought it was 100 million campaign points, which is different than your career total. You can play the same song a thousand times and if it totals 100 million, you'll get the achievement. It isn't possible to get a 100 million career score, since you'd need 2.56 million points or more on each of the 39 main setlist songs (42 minus 3 bosses).

    It's like the 250,000 notes played achievement, which is cumulative, not 250,000 notes across your best playthrough of each of the songs.


    Yeah but you can use the same band to gain single player and multiplayer career points. That means you can effectively more than double-up by playing multiplayer. If it was just 100 mill points earned over the course of the playing the game, I would figure that by the time he had reached 40m points total career score, he would have re-played enough songs enough times trying to 5* or 100% them that he should have cleared the 100m easily. Every song 3 times at a 5*ish level would have cleared 120m points.

    EDIT: Tracking thread from the Gamestop forums. This is your current career score, and not the total points you've earned ever. Co-op does count toward it.

    EDIT Again: I'm retarded, replaying songs counts, right there in the OP.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Monoxide is right. Go to your leaderboards, go to single player, and then it has the following:

    Career - Easy
    Career - Medium
    Career - Hard
    Career - Expert
    Campaign

    So it's campaign. And I'm at about 30,000,000, I was off by 10. But it's good to know that I won't have to work to 100% songs I hate playing (I'm lookin' at you, Kool Thing).

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2007
    Erandus wrote: »
    Monoxide wrote: »
    Ok, so what the fuck Neversoft?

    The 100 million career achievement. Even across all four difficulties, your bonus songs don't count toward your career score. I've five-starred all of Medium, on my way to 100%ing all of Easy (and most of Medium as well), five-starred all but two songs on Expert, and beaten everything except Raining Blood on Expert. My total is coming close to 40 million or so.

    100 million doesn't even seem mathematically possible.

    I thought it was 100 million campaign points, which is different than your career total. You can play the same song a thousand times and if it totals 100 million, you'll get the achievement. It isn't possible to get a 100 million career score, since you'd need 2.56 million points or more on each of the 39 main setlist songs (42 minus 3 bosses).

    It's like the 250,000 notes played achievement, which is cumulative, not 250,000 notes across your best playthrough of each of the songs.


    Yeah but you can use the same band to gain single player and multiplayer career points. That means you can effectively more than double-up by playing multiplayer. If it was just 100 mill points earned over the course of the playing the game, I would figure that by the time he had reached 40m points total career score, he would have re-played enough songs enough times trying to 5* or 100% them that he should have cleared the 100m easily. Every song 3 times at a 5*ish level would have cleared 120m points.

    Hmm, maybe. WPI has 250 million total campaign points, but his career scores don't add up to 100m. I cant' find his gamertag to see if he got the achievement. Even the highest co-op and career scores on the scoreboards don't add up to 100m at the moment, so I'm having a hard time believing that they didn't mean 100m Campaign score.

  • ErandusErandus Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Yeah I was wrong. Replays count toward your score.

    Co-op does as well, though, anything played under your band name, basically. Co-op would be the way to go, I'd think, since you're basically scoring double on a lot of songs.

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  • Nimble CatNimble Cat Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    My parents picked this up for me for my birthday. It's pretty sweet. I played on my brothers 360 last night and owned the first boss, but it took me soo long today. Finally managed to finish him off. Now to try to get some work done on my research paper draft for Wed.

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