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Yahtzee Croshaw's "The Art of Theft"

korodullinkorodullin What.Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Games and Technology
So, we have quite a few people who enjoy Zero Punctuation by Yahtzee Croshaw, but what a lot of people may not know is that he's put out quite a few enjoyable little games, including the wonderful Out of This World-style platformer 1213.

Well, just today, he released another new title, this time a mix of Thief and 1213 and starring his character Trilby titled, appropriately, Trilby: The Art of Theft.

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As you can see, the game uses a modified version of the 1213 engine, and has you sneaking around various locales using light sources, fast moves, and a swanky umbrella to grab your loot, evade notice, and escape with an inflated reputation. Lots of replayability, since you get timed and graded based on your performance, and you can also go back and replay any mission to improve. The better you do, the more money and renown you earn, and the better skills and extra abilities you can unlock.

I'm not sure how long this is, since I'm only on the third mission, but it's fairly challenging (for me, at least). Great fun though, just like 1213.

You can find it over at The Escapist.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I'm really enjoying it too, it's so fun trying to run past the guards and watch them helplessly use the radio as I zap them :p

    Oh and I now hate cameras to death

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    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Haha, and the Sadist skill is awesome fun :^::^:

    Edit: Perhaps this thread would attract more attention if it mentioned Yahtzee or 1213 in the title?

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Or the Chzo myths

    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User
    edited November 2007
    This is a wonderful little game. I've yet to try any of the skills except Locksmith, as the most expensive skill in the game, Into Shadow, looks so delightfully broken I just have to save up for it.

  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Damn you for showing me this.
    Also, do alarms/zappings affect your score, or is it just binary--either you go over the limit or you don't?
    AKA, is there some reason not to use the maximum I'm allowed?

  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Tasings and alarms go towards your final grade at the end of the stage, yeah. The lowest score is C, and the highest is the Trilby symbol.

    Edit: And your score affects how much rep you get.

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  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Mumbly, I'm not sure it's possible to get through the game saving up; I'm fairly certain you'll need to buy roll pretty early on, if nothing else.

  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Aye, I ended up buying Roll. It's only 300 Reputation, and it allowed me to rack up some good scores on the earlier missions. Regardless, I will get 3,000 Reputation. That broken skill will be mine.

  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I'm don't think it's really going to be all that hot, it just lets you do the same stuff faster. Although it would make some of the more onerous camera sections easier, I'm personally trying to max out lockpicking.

  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User
    edited November 2007
    The biggest obstacle thus far has been the time limit (for achieving Rank Trilby), and Into Shadow seems the skill of choice for shaving off precious seconds. I tried the 500 Reputation skill which allows Trilby to sidestep while hugging a wall, but the movement is simply too slow to justify at this point. It will, inevitably, become a required skill for speeding through laser-trapped areas. But for now Into Shadow seems a better target for achieving perfect scores.

    At least I'm not saving up to put Reputation into Sadist and Lower Standards. Urgh.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Haha, and the Sadist skill is awesome fun :^::^:

    Edit: Perhaps this thread would attract more attention if it mentioned Yahtzee or 1213 in the title?

    Or even the full title. Those in the know will know who Trilby is.

  • AvenroshAvenrosh Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    1213 is awesome... That's all I have to say for now. I'll definitely be trying this game out.

  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    This is probably my favorite of his, with the 1213 series being my second favorite. The Chzo Mythos gets worse as time goes on, IMO.

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  • AydrAydr Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Cool. This looks like a good way to get my paper done on time.

    Wait a minute... you bastard.
    Spoiler:

    DeMoN wrote: »
    I DIED IN THE ARMS OF A TOASTER WITH BREASTS
  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Haha, and the Sadist skill is awesome fun :^::^:

    Edit: Perhaps this thread would attract more attention if it mentioned Yahtzee or 1213 in the title?

    Done.

    Also, Yahtzee's beta testers have some forums set up wherein they discuss a lot of stuff about AoT like secrets and techniques, if you want a better idea of how to do some stuff.

    Honestly though, I wish I could play this with a gamepad. Keyboard-only is tough for platformers with me, even if they're designed for it.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I wouldn't consider Art of Theft a platformer, but I know what you mean.

    I wish I didn't have to "grind" RP to get skills I really should have at the beginning, like increasing the amount of alarms and tazes.

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  • Disco BanditDisco Bandit Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    No Mac version? I'm borrowing a mac for a week, but apparently it doesn't like .exe files.

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  • ShensShens Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Holy shit. He is the same Yahtzee that did the fantastic AGS games?

    If you guys love Point-Click-Adventures, check out 5 Days a Stranger and 7 Days a Skeptic. Fantastic games and very well made. I think this is his site:

    http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/games.htm


    Sorry that was slightly off-topic. It does feature the Trilby character though. I loved the character in his two adventure games, I am going to have to check this out.

  • IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    1213's saves corrupted for me when I was perhaps thirty minutes from the end. I was squaring off against that boss you have to hide in the
    Spoiler:

    to beat. I was far too annoyed to ever go through it afterwards.

  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Cool game, but how the fuck do I get past cameras? Even though I can't do it always, I understand how to get past a guard. But these cameras seem fucking impossible. At least they deactivate after they go off.

  • MittenMitten Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Ghandi 2 wrote: »
    Cool game, but how the fuck do I get past cameras? Even though I can't do it always, I understand how to get past a guard. But these cameras seem fucking impossible. At least they deactivate after they go off.
    Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter if they see you, just that you manage to get out of their sight before they go off.

  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Ghandi 2 wrote: »
    Cool game, but how the fuck do I get past cameras? Even though I can't do it always, I understand how to get past a guard. But these cameras seem fucking impossible. At least they deactivate after they go off.

    Did you do the tutorial at all? I don't mean that harshly; but it is pretty well explained there. Hug the walls, stay out of the light, and wait for them to face away before you go for it. If you can't see an obvious way through, look for cables leading to junction boxes or switches that could turn them off.

    Edit: Yes, that too. You've got a very brief time period that you can be seen and still get away with it, no more than about a second.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Note: cameras can't detect you when you stand underneath them.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    That's useful also, though I only find myself using that to my advantage very occasionally.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I use it all of the time, but it's harder on later levels.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Sidling was the very first skill I bought, so I think that's probably why I don't stand under cameras much - I can just sidle past dark areas with cameras above without being seen.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Shens wrote: »
    Holy shit. He is the same Yahtzee that did the fantastic AGS games?

    If you guys love Point-Click-Adventures, check out 5 Days a Stranger and 7 Days a Skeptic. Fantastic games and very well made. I think this is his site:

    http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/games.htm


    Sorry that was slightly off-topic. It does feature the Trilby character though. I loved the character in his two adventure games, I am going to have to check this out.

    According to Yahtzee, Art of Theft is a kind of prequel to 5 Days a Stranger.

    And as for cameras, they're pretty tough to get around at times, especially when you have to time it so that you pop through a door, the camera's not facing your way.

    And a little bit of baffling logic with the guards sitting at desks. I spent more time than I should have trying to figure out how to get past the guy in the first mission without being seen. I figured I'd have to duck in "front" of the desk to get out of his line of sight, but it turns out you just walk on past him. Kinda binary, but I guess it could be worse.

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  • Disco BanditDisco Bandit Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wait, you don't have to zap the first guard in the first level? Explanation please, I'd love to have a higher score on that one.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Well, he can only see you when he's looking up, and as far as I can tell (this is how I did it both times I've done the level) he can't see you when you're ducking.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    He can't see you at all when he's looking down at whatever he's reading at his desk. When he looks down, simply run in front of the desk.

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I know it would probably be considered self-serving but I'd still love to see him review this game.

    "lenny bruce is not afraid..."
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  • Disco BanditDisco Bandit Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, I figured that out. Thanks for the help. I'm stuck on the third level, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything... I just need to do better, if that makes sense. I keep making mistakes that cost me.

    I think I'm so reluctant to use my zapper (because you only get a certain amount) that I wind off setting off alarms, which, guess what, you only get a certain amount of.

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    korodullin wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Holy shit. He is the same Yahtzee that did the fantastic AGS games?

    If you guys love Point-Click-Adventures, check out 5 Days a Stranger and 7 Days a Skeptic. Fantastic games and very well made. I think this is his site:

    http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/games.htm


    Sorry that was slightly off-topic. It does feature the Trilby character though. I loved the character in his two adventure games, I am going to have to check this out.

    According to Yahtzee, Art of Theft is a kind of prequel to 5 Days a Stranger.

    And as for cameras, they're pretty tough to get around at times, especially when you have to time it so that you pop through a door, the camera's not facing your way.

    And a little bit of baffling logic with the guards sitting at desks. I spent more time than I should have trying to figure out how to get past the guy in the first mission without being seen. I figured I'd have to duck in "front" of the desk to get out of his line of sight, but it turns out you just walk on past him. Kinda binary, but I guess it could be worse.

    Does this mean that the final level will
    Spoiler:

    "lenny bruce is not afraid..."
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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User
    edited November 2007
    Oh god, please let it be D:

    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I don't think so, since Art of Theft takes place a few years before 5 Days a Stranger.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User
    edited November 2007
    LIES

    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The game's called Art Of Theft. The long version is Trilby: The Art Of Theft, because it features everyone's favourite dapper renegade from the Chzo Mythos (I stress that it's set in 1991, two years before 5DAS, so don't think it's a continuation or anything).

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User
    edited November 2007
    NO U

    it can be a prequel with an end level connecting to the Chzo Mythos games though

    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User
    edited November 2007
    I think I'm so reluctant to use my zapper (because you only get a certain amount) that I wind off setting off alarms, which, guess what, you only get a certain amount of.
    That's no bad thing. Using the taser even once tanks your score, so it's for the best that you pretend it doesn't exist. Likewise, don't even consider investing in Sadist, Lower Standards or Forgetfulness, unless you're quite happy to condemn that save file to being utterly useless for high-score runs.

  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I beat 1213 and 5 Days A Stranger, both really fun. I didn't know he was the guy that did Zero Punctuation though. Maybe I'll have to watch those.

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