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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    I personally can't imagine carrying a concealed weapon around with me in California. I would just feel so out of place.

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  • ShogunShogun Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I personally can't imagine carrying a concealed weapon around with me in California. I would just feel so out of place.

    Never been to Watts have you

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  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    Fired a bunch of .22's with Thanatos and Locksly yesterday, plus a .40 glock and an Ithaca 37 Featherlight.

    If you ever get the opportunity to fire a Featherlight, I suggest you do it once, and then never ever again.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Fired a bunch of .22's with Thanatos and Locksly yesterday, plus a .40 glock and an Ithaca 37 Featherlight.

    If you ever get the opportunity to fire a Featherlight, I suggest you do it once, and then never ever again.

    I'll bite. Why never again?

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  • HacksawHacksaw The "New Scum" Registered User regular
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Fired a bunch of .22's with Thanatos and Locksly yesterday, plus a .40 glock and an Ithaca 37 Featherlight.

    If you ever get the opportunity to fire a Featherlight, I suggest you do it once, and then never ever again.

    I'll bite. Why never again?
    Shoot one and you'll find out.

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS
    Numi wrote: »
    Sweet mercy yes! I was never much into guns but the army really just killed what little interest there might have been. But then again they also managed to take the fun out of urban combat, explosives, camping and pretty much everything else they could think of :P

    Hear hear, I understand the whole your-weapon-is-your-life feeling, but I still view gun obsessions as an odd fetish over what is essentially a tool. A bit like people drooling over different varieties of spade. Of course, there are such spade people. I imagine they have a magazine.
    Incenjucar wrote:
    The only time you can blame a gun for something is when the damned thing explodes on you

    This is untrue. You can also blame a gun if its magazine habitually falls off, the plastic handguard melts when fired, the ejector bolt doesn't eject rounds, the magazine always jams rounds in the chamber, it doesn't fire when it's too cold, it doesn't fire when it's too hot, it doesn't fire if you are within 900 miles of some sand or mud, and if when you don't want it to fire the safety catch doesn't make safe, and a round can discharge if the weapon is knocked hard. But then you have to call it 'SA80 weapon drills'. I hear the new one is much better, but the old one was an extraordinary fucking nightmare. Also a good example of why one shouldn't let the Ministry of Defence handle anything, ever, at all.

  • 043043 Registered User
    I've got a Colt Series 80 1911A1, a Bushmaster AR15 A2 and a Mossberg 590 Mariner here in my apartment.

    I'm trying to get a damn M1 Garand, but finding money (and waiting on the CMP) is hell.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger Registered User regular
    Is the recoil really bad on a feather light?

    I play games on ps3. My PSN is DouglasDanger.
  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    I have my duty weapon as a Sig P220. I loves it like a fat kid loves pancakes.
    On my ankle I carry a compact Smith and Wesson M&P .40.
    When I want to go to the range, I bring my Smith and Wesson M&P .9mm Gotta love the 17 round mag

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User
    Numi wrote: »
    Sweet mercy yes! I was never much into guns but the army really just killed what little interest there might have been. But then again they also managed to take the fun out of urban combat, explosives, camping and pretty much everything else they could think of :P

    Hear hear, I understand the whole your-weapon-is-your-life feeling, but I still view gun obsessions as an odd fetish over what is essentially a tool. A bit like people drooling over different varieties of spade. Of course, there are such spade people. I imagine they have a magazine.

    More like cars or guitars or — wait for it — video games. If it's something you do for fun, what's the difference?

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    Adrien wrote: »
    Numi wrote: »
    Sweet mercy yes! I was never much into guns but the army really just killed what little interest there might have been. But then again they also managed to take the fun out of urban combat, explosives, camping and pretty much everything else they could think of :P

    Hear hear, I understand the whole your-weapon-is-your-life feeling, but I still view gun obsessions as an odd fetish over what is essentially a tool. A bit like people drooling over different varieties of spade. Of course, there are such spade people. I imagine they have a magazine.

    More like cars or guitars or — wait for it — video games. If it's something you do for fun, what's the difference?

    I think some people find it disturbing because their minds make these connections:

    Cars are to driving/racing as
    Guitars are to music as
    Video games are to playing as
    Guns are to killing things

  • BearcatBearcat Registered User
    Ive posted this in a prior GUNZ topic, but I do own a Yugoslavian Kar98k.
    Spoiler:

    I'm fairly sure I'm the first, or at least close to it, owner that has actually operated it.

  • ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    My guns (a Bushmaster M4A3 and a USP .45):
    Spoiler:

    edit: Bandwidth exceeded, try again in December :P

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User
    Shinto wrote: »
    I think some people find it disturbing because their minds make these connections:

    Cars are to driving/racing as
    Guitars are to music as
    Video games are to playing as
    Guns are to killing things

    Never mind that guitars cause more deaths, huh?

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  • NatheoNatheo Registered User
    Don't cars top all of them?

    Besides I don't think we're allowed to talk about this.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    Well, I think the point is that a gun is a tool primarily meant to be used for killing. Guitars and cars may kill more people, but their primary purposes are making music and driving respectively.

    This is the perspective of people who are put off by intense interest in guns, I believe.

  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    I enjoy the history behind a certain line of guns. Lots of World War II firearms had distinct of personality to them, and it was interesting to read about their usage (and shortcomings) during the war.

    That link to the British modern rifle was crazy. The engineering and design behind the weapon is my favorite thing about guns rather than firing them or killing things.

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  • deowolfdeowolf Registered User regular
    I dunno, according to the sig I saw around here somewhere, guitars kill fascists. Show me a gun that says that.

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  • NatheoNatheo Registered User
    Not suppose to be having this conversation. You're doing it wrong.

    So, about them Mausers. I would like one one day.

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  • J3pJ3p Registered User
    Yarr harr fiddledy-dee,
    having a passing interesting in firearms is alright with me!

    So yeah I have never fired a firearm in my life, and I doubt I will anytime soon. Nonetheless, I really likes to read about guns; everything from the classics to the oddities.

    Here is a question for you lovely folks: If you could have any gun ever, no strings or charges attached, which gun would you choose?

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  • SamiSami Registered User
    Playing military laser tag with M4s?
    Fun.

    Playing military laser tag with a SAW?
    Super fun.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Registered User regular
    Natheo wrote: »
    Not suppose to be having this conversation. You're doing it wrong.

    So, about them Mausers. I would like one one day.

    They are silky smooth and oh so delicious.

    Possibly fattening though.

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    My personal collection.

    Sig p220
    Desert Eagle Mk1 357 10 inch barrel
    Desert Eagle Mk 19 with 6 inch barrels for both .44 and .50 and a 10 inch .44 barrel.
    Calico 950
    Franchi Spas12 shotgun

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • NatheoNatheo Registered User
    Detharin wrote: »
    Franchi Spas12 shotgun

    F you.

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS
    deowolf wrote: »
    I dunno, according to the sig I saw around here somewhere, guitars kill fascists. Show me a gun that says that.

    ...don't know if they say that, but bet I can show you more guns that have killed fascists than you can show me guitars.
    Adrien wrote:
    More like cars or guitars or — wait for it — video games. If it's something you do for fun, what's the difference?

    Actually, if you read the context, I wasn't commenting on whether it was a good thing or not, and I wasn't making Shinto's point about gun obsession being disturbing (though it can be). I was merely agreeing with Numi & LondonBridge that after spening a significant amount of time using a gun as it is intended, even if during that time it was essentially the most important thing in my life, I'm not much sentimental about them. Guns for fun seems like taking a copy of Excel home and making spreadsheets for fun in your spare time, and it's just amusing that so many people treat it as a higher calling and exercise of fundamental civic duty rather than a slightly geeky hobby.

    Also, from a worldwide perspective, I would be very surprised if guitars and cars combined killed more people than guns.

  • Seaborn111Seaborn111 Registered User
    I've never been much of a gun person.

    I fired many pistols, rifles and shotguns at my families farm, but never really intended to own one.

    until i found this baby

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    Beretta stampede buntline carbine.

    soooo much fun at a range. and you get some great stares.

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  • Seaborn111 wrote: »
    I've never been much of a gun person.

    I fired many pistols, rifles and shotguns at my families farm, but never really intended to own one.

    until i found this baby

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    Beretta stampede buntline carbine.

    soooo much fun at a range. and you get some great stares.

    That looks like something Colonel Mortimer would carry.

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    Natheo wrote: »
    Detharin wrote: »
    Franchi Spas12 shotgun

    F you.

    ?

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS
    Detharin wrote: »
    Natheo wrote: »
    Detharin wrote: »
    Franchi Spas12 shotgun

    F you.

    ?

    You realize how rare these are?

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  • Seaborn111Seaborn111 Registered User
    Seaborn111 wrote: »
    I've never been much of a gun person.

    I fired many pistols, rifles and shotguns at my families farm, but never really intended to own one.

    until i found this baby

    Buntline_Carbine_S_maxi.jpg

    Beretta stampede buntline carbine.

    soooo much fun at a range. and you get some great stares.

    That looks like something Colonel Mortimer would carry.

    << needs clarification. Colonel Mortimer not ringing a bell.

    </bush>
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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Detharin wrote: »
    Natheo wrote: »
    Detharin wrote: »
    Franchi Spas12 shotgun

    F you.

    ?

    You realize how rare these are?


    Really? Picked mine up at a local gun store about 6 years ago. Walked in, they had it on the rack complete with folding stock, combat hook, and with the original model and box. Little wear on it, i should probably have it refinished. Plus i need to take it apart and replace the shock absorber in the receiver.

    Anyway if anyone wanted a spas 12 gunbroker usually has at least one for sale. I did a quick search

    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85534762

    Note. i am in no way, shape or form affiliated with this auction.

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    Ooh! A gun thread with less arguing!

    My personal collection:

    Several 1911's of various manufacture
    Several AR-15's of various manufacture
    Several M-1s, M-1 carbines and M-1A's of various manufacture
    3 Remington 700's - .243, .270, and .300 mag
    Browning Cenergy O/U 12 gauge shotgun
    Various other shotguns in 12/20 gauge
    A few S&W revolvers in .357
    An FAL (DSA manufacture)
    And the gun that every collection should have, a 10/22

    Oh! I can't believe I forgot!

    My Winchester Model 1894 lever-action 30-30. It was bought by my great-great grandfather new when he immigrated to the US. It's a really special gun to me.

    My father's collection has some real gems, old German shotguns from the 1800's, etc.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    I'm personally a little disappointed that the direction of modern military ops are pulling us away from the old "one shot one kill" mantra. Some of the newer weapons being designed and tested are nice and all, I like the M4 and the M16A4 as much as anyone...

    I suppose it's just nostalgia for the A2.

  • SteveSSteveS Registered User
    Gooey wrote: »
    An FAL (DSA manufacture)

    This is on my short list of what to get next. I just have to decide what kind of configuration I want, but the DSA seems to have a great reputation.

  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS
    My collection, most of which is customized in one way or another by a variety of users.

    My father's M14 he received while serving in 'Nam.
    His father's M1 carbine, modified to be damn well near fully auto.
    An AK47 my dad claims to have stolen from a VC. I'm not sure how true that is.
    A Beretta 92, but I'd much rather own a 1911.
    An SKS with bayonette and field-rigged extended magazine.
    Some crazy Russian or Czech thing that fires .45 rounds and looks somewhat like a Walther pistol.
    A .30 caliber bolt action that I'm fairly certain is a Springfield 1903. Somebody told me I was wrong about that, but I think they're crazy.
    A Sten, not sure which model, belonged to my grandfather as well, but I'm thinking it might be pretty valuable.

    That's all that's notable from my collection. I've got a Winchester sporting shotgun, a .22 revolver that I fired when I was a kid, a .38 police issue piece of junk, and a few Civil War rifles. If you couldn't tell, the majority of my collection is from hand-me-downs. I don't go out to the range anymore, but I'm intent on keeping some of those nice and clean for future sales.

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  • DarkHawkeDarkHawke Registered User
    Also, from a worldwide perspective, I would be very surprised if guitars and cars combined killed more people than guns.

    this handy-dandy realtime death counter based on statistical data from the WHO suggests otherwise (right now, after 400 odd seconds, I'm reading 14 traffic deaths, and 8 (2 from war and 6 from violence) gun-related deaths, assuming all of those deaths are gun-related. The self-inflicted and accidental injuries could all be gun related. Or guitar related.)

    Probably not the best guide though - the WHO's statistical data is still a little bit spotty in places, a lot of deaths in the developing world probably go unreported (more info here). Still, deaths from crime and war certainly aren't as high as I would have thought (and heart disease is frightening).

    EDIT: I live in Britain, where firearms are not so much problematic as involve a lot of hoop-jumping to sort out licenses for. I have an air rifle and fired a .22 and an L98 (cadet version of the SA80) when I was in the cadets.

    I want a pepperbox so bad

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    SteveS wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    An FAL (DSA manufacture)

    This is on my short list of what to get next. I just have to decide what kind of configuration I want, but the DSA seems to have a great reputation.

    DSA makes a great gun. Mine is a vanilla model with synthetic furniture.

    A gun from here is on my short list. More specifically the 1874 Long Range Express chambered in 45/70. But there's over a year wait. It's not tacti-cool, but man I love drop-block/rolling-block buffalo guns.

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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    Well the only gun I ever shot was the SIG P226 hand gun in Coast Guard basic. Although I never shot a gun I knew that the trigger pull was way to damn long and hard for pistol. The instructors kept saying just let it happen and dont squeeze quickly. But when your finger starts to give out mid way how am i not supposed to miss.

    Since I'm in the Coast Guard pistol training is only for people at stations of law enforcement and not like the ARMY or Marines where everyone practices. To use a M16 in the CG is equivalent to being a SpecOPs guy.

    The only thing that keeps me away from asking to shoot is the extreme rules they have. Sure you need proper handling skills but when they demand you stand a certain way and put your thumbs out in a weired fashion or make you strap on a M16 to your arm I decide its not fun and just more boring training.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    DarkHawke wrote: »
    Also, from a worldwide perspective, I would be very surprised if guitars and cars combined killed more people than guns.

    this handy-dandy realtime death counter based on statistical data from the WHO suggests otherwise (right now, after 400 odd seconds, I'm reading 14 traffic deaths, and 8 (2 from war and 6 from violence) gun-related deaths, assuming all of those deaths are gun-related. The self-inflicted and accidental injuries could all be gun related. Or guitar related.)

    Probably not the best guide though - the WHO's statistical data is still a little bit spotty in places, a lot of deaths in the developing world probably go unreported (more info here). Still, deaths from crime and war certainly aren't as high as I would have thought (and heart disease is frightening).

    The counter-argument can be summed up as such:
    In World War 2, over 60 million people died.

    Also, this Thursday I get a chance to use an automatic MP5. Excited.

    And you don't just get $5 off used games.
    WKC is $59.99 New. Used is $34.99.
    SO is $64.99 new used is $34.99.
    Eternal Sonatra new is $34.99 used is $17.99.
    You get a savings of 50% or more if your buying used.
  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, I heard that there might be a civilian version of the FN SCAR coming out next year? Anyone have info on that?

    And you don't just get $5 off used games.
    WKC is $59.99 New. Used is $34.99.
    SO is $64.99 new used is $34.99.
    Eternal Sonatra new is $34.99 used is $17.99.
    You get a savings of 50% or more if your buying used.
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