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The "What is your favorite TCG" Thread
Dekabal
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Ill, start. My favorite by far has been pokemon. An interesting story combined with unique decks, strategy, and a sense on community has made pokemon one of my favorite TCG's.
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Do I need to list reasons, it's not like it's the best on the market or anything
It is consistently the best designed CCG in terms of game mechanics and introducing new things without making them completely overpowered or broken. Everything has a balance or counter to it. There are obvious problem cards here and there where people take advantage of something the developers don't expect, but it happens far less frequently now that they've started hiring pro-tour winners to develop for them.
Other CCGs tend to have sparse player bases and either badly imitate Magic's ruleset, or have a really sucky ruleset of their own.
Mostly I still play Magic because it is the CCG that most people play. No matter where you go, SOMEONE else plays Magic in your area.
I'll take it over any other game on the market, just 'cos it's got a *soul*.
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There is no better designed game on the market. Also, Superman punching Spider-Man in the face amuses me far more than it should.
I'm also really enjoying UFS (Universal Fighting System). The whole style of the system is so much different from other CCGs, and it feels about as close as you can get to a 2D fighter without it actually being a 2D fighter.
Magic and World of Warcraft can both die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned. Shoddy, shoddy mechanics.
not sure about WoW, but that kind of statement needs some qualification
if it's just taste, fine, but if you're trying to objectively pitch magic has bad mechanics, i'mma have to call shenanigans and ask for some real reasons
I really didn't like Mirrodin and all that lot, though. Somehow all those artifact creatures and equipment cards still don't feel right to me, but I'm by no means an expert in game balance.
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This new one creeped me out.
I've only ever tried to understand two TCGs, and they were both ones that no one else ever played(Animayhem,and for sheer collectibility, the Sailor Moon TCG), so I've effectively given up on the genre.
1. A Game of Thrones
2. Enjoyable to play
3. Art of characters from A Game of Thrones
I started years ago, back in elementary school, when I had a chubby for Craw Wurms and blue/green decks. I ended up quitting solely because I ran out of kids to play with, and was heading to high school.
Since then, I've tried both Yu Gi Oh and the WoW TCG. Yu Gi Oh was fun, but never got really into it. The WoW TCG, I dropped some change on. But I just felt constricted.
Don't get me wrong, the game is fun, but there wasn't enough options for me. Maybe I couldn't see it, but I felt to limited by class choice. Allies were throwaways, and while I did real well with my Horde Fire Mage and Alliance Marksmanship Hunter, I just wasn't feeling it.
Now I'm recently back into Magic, and loving every second of it.
I don't like Magic because, well, almost every CCG I've played has been far more enjoyable because those games take a lot more in-game thought or simply emulate things in card form in a way that's a lot of fun.
My biggest problem with magic is the mana system. No matter how well built the deck, there always exists the mana flood/mana drain problem. Two circumstances that can make a player lose the game, regardless of player skill. Now, every game has card draw problems but other games I've played (WoW, Vs., L5R, UFS, DBZ CCG) offer players outs through either tutors, different mulligan rules, or just plain drawing tons of cards. Note that, for Vs, tutors are essentially free to play and anything in your deck could be a resource which totally removes the mana flood/drain issue, but creates others. However, those other issues still allow a player to play the game, unlike the mana flood/drain system.
My other problem is drawing one card a turn. It's simply way too slow compared to games where you draw into a certain handsize (UFS) or draw more than one card a turn (Vs.). I say it's slow because one card a turn limits a player's options in terms of actually playing the game. Unless you're 100% sure of a win in Magic, you never want to hand dump (and even if you are, keeping one or two options open is always a smarter idea). This means, to me, players are intentionally playing slow because if you overspend your resources, in terms of cards in hand, it's nigh-impossible to get caught back up.
I'm not saying Magic is a bad game. There obviously had to have been something there when it came out to spawn the whole industry. However, I take issue with people claiming Magic has a superior ruleset/mechanics when usually this opinion is born out of ignorance/distaste for other CCGs. I still have a Magic deck, in fact, but not because I enjoy the game so much as I know no matter where I go I'll be able to find people that play Magic. Once I find that out, I'll more than gladly show them other CCGs which are, in my opinion, better games.
Yu gi oh is fun for the simplicity of the system.
magic's complexities are myriad, read any limited format analysis, or writings by the top players (Zvi Mowshowitz and Michael J Flores jump to mind) and there's a ton of theory underpinning the game
though to find mana issues a big problem is strange, to me; it is easily alleviated, and card drawing is plentiful (if you like blue, though all colors have cantrips, and artifacts go great with everyone)
i dunno, it seems strange to me to list luck as a failing of the game when luck is an easy factor to manage with proper deck assembly
Goddamn, I love UFS too. I'm still building a lot of stuff, but right now I've got a Nightmare Geese deck that's sort of decent, a good Ryu deck, a good Akuma deck, an awful Terry Bogard deck (because $17 Burning Knuckles are way out of my price range), and an annoying Taki deck. I'm trying to build up interest in it and one of my friends has started building an Ivy deck.
There is no better CCG when it comes to emulating a fighting game. The mechanics are so well thought out to further that purpose, it's really quite stunning.
@ Arcanis: Unless you play other stuff like Vs. or L5R, Magic's many and myriad faults do not easily present themselves. It'd be like judging Soul Calibur as the best fighting game without playing any other fighting game, or Super Mario World as the best platformer along the same criteria. I thought Magic was a hell of a game until I started playing other CCGs (mostly because I got frustrated with Magic's deckbuilding and a general disinterest in the game's setting. Also, Onslaught block was over.).
@Gaddez: Yu-Gi-Oh! is a fine CCG that gets a lot of disparagement thrown at it because of its simplicity. While I tired of YGO fairly early on (after the 4th set got released stateside), it's still the best gateway CCG there is.
Relevantly, anyway, I played a couple games of Magi-Nation with my buddy, and decided I hated the game because the art was ridiculous and having to keep track of multiple changing variables for each card in play drove me crazy.
Core 4 lyfe, yo.
When it was around and available, I kinda wish I bought more of it. I'm always keeping my eye out on eBay for a lot, and if I can ever find one cheap I'm definitely thinking about snapping it up so I can put together some decks and teach people how to play.
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This is my favorite TCG as well. I think we played it every lunch time and Friday nights for two or so years (Played Arderial while my friends played Cald/Naroom, well until the expansions came out.) What caught me on it was probably the awesome flavor text/humor and no resource cards. One of the best parts was being able to send in your wrappers for Limited edition cards previously unavailable due to them being GMC or Tournament exclusives.
Unfortunately people learned to break the game making it barely enjoyable until new errata came out. Which made it even more confusing.
At PMAvers: If it's possible to find, I suggest getting the first edition starters of the first set (Base?) They come ready to play without the nuissance of random cards like unlimited does. Although, making your own deck is just as fun.
that's rather presumptuous of you sir
you think magic is my only experience with TCGs?
like I said up there, I respect difference of taste, but let's not throw down claims as objective
The WoW TCG was pretty fun, but I never found a good group to play it with. I always wanted to try the game of thrones ccg, but once again no one plays it around my parts.
There used to be a Magi-Nation patch for apprentice, I wonder if I can find it...
Then moved to playing Yu-Gi-Oh and disliked the plethora of broken or "overpowered" cards. or how there were a whole lot of cards that Nobody in their right mind would use.
I then tried Magic and haven't looked back, almost every card has a use in some type of deck strategy.
and I actually like the mana system and one card draw a turn rules. they make the game interesting and are relatively easy to circumvent or work them to your advantage.
So, to summarize, Magic rules. :P
Well, I respect your opinion, but that is also the case with pretty much every TCG, the guy with more cards has a better selection to choose from. for that matter buying boosters won't automaticly guarantee you an awesome deck.
Magic is better then, say, Yu-Gi-Oh in this respect at least, when I played it you could have whatever you wanted and so long as it was better (or higher power creatures) then the cards your opponent had you would win.
Oh, I'm not saying it's just Magic. It's just the reason I don't play TCGs, and why I stopped playing Heroclix.
I had a universal deck, it kicked ass. Rayjex3, Collosusx3, and a bunch of other stuff that did not matter, compared to THE COLLOSUS!.
It seems that they still run MND over at CCGWorkshop, if anyone is interested.
The mechanics are modified M:tG, which means that they're solid. Ten+ years will do that to a game.
My issue with Magic comes in resource management (you can get Mana Screwed), and with the "janky" feel that the game has taken on. While I appreciate cool effects and I do respect the devs for innovation in their card sets, I do not "click" with the fact that every card in recent blocks does something weird. WoW has a sort of simplicity still that makes it more about basic value card v. card interactions than about triggering events which trigger events which trigger even more events.
Oh, and when you deal damage to an ally, he doesn't magically heal at the end of the turn. I never got that.
For team play, WoW CCG is probably the best team based CCG ever made, it just works so freaking well. Raids are great fun too, even though you wouldn't think they would be, my friends and I had a blast with Onixya before I left for China.
I also loved Warlords, such a spectacularly different CCG, to bad it got destroyed with too many expansions, and too many broken cards. They released a Diamond Edition and tried to restart it kinda like Magic did with the different groupings, but it didn't happen soon enough and I doubt the game will be much more popular anytime soon.
Plus, cyborg monkeys! And eunuch sorcerers! And shape-shifted animals! And a Bag Full of Guns!
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Funny, they still seem to be coming out with new sets, so I wouldn't call it dead.
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