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PC's on a plane

Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in PAX Archive
Howdy folks, this section of the forum seems to have a funky "left for dead" smell.O_o

Any who, this is where this thread belongs so I will get started.

I was in on the BYOC last year and plan to be next year. (I won the creepiest comment in-game award if anyone remembers :|) I had a mid-tower comp and a CRT :x screen. Thankfully, I drove (from Rockford, Il) and did not have to deal with any airport security. The time has come to upgrade to a completely new box and a new LCD screen.

I am at the stage of buying the case and am having some trouble deciding. I have some ideas but I am just realizing that I may fly in this year. I was wanting to know if anyone here flew with their towers before. I have read about some others experience through searching but none of them seem to be very recent. Think anyone can give me some advice?:?:

I have already decided not to go water cooling. So there I won't have to worry about being asked "Sir, is this a chemical bomb?" And as far as I can find out I should not have any repercussions by having the computer x-rayed. As for packing, I figured that I would save the box the computer case comes in and pack the thing back in there when I am redy to travel.

Here are some cases I am considering. I am trying to stear clear of the crazy-ass "fast and the furious" cases that seem to be so popular.

This big bastard, Antec P180. I have seen this thing in person and it is huge but I love it.

The Antec 900. This one seems nice. It also seems to have this "el cheapo" vibe to it for some reason.

Just found this one. Lian Li PC-A10. I rather like this one but it is a little pricey.

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2007
    You drove from Illinois? Why weren't you on the CCST? For shame.

    Also, flying with a tower is a pain in the ass, you should just drive again, and do it right this time.

  • yoshamanoyoshamano The fuck is this. The fuck was that. Marshall, Soviet MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Don't, seriously. I could show you pictures of how well my monitor and router fared on the flight back. If I didn't have a 1/4" sheet of acrylic velcroed on the front of my monitor, I'd have a large puncture wound in the bottom corner of it.

    I FedEx'ed the computer itself there and back (aside from the hard drives, they went with me in carry on). It's rather expensive, but allows you to surround it with packing material a foot deep on all sides. The only way it'd survive a flight is for you to picture a travel case/crate, picture your computer in it, now picture your computer in said case being thrown 20' feet to a ground made of concrete. A similar situation will happen every time a person touches your case.

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  • whypick1whypick1 [E] ~2' from an LCDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    As someone who has flown with computers before, don't. I've done it three times, and this is what it has netted me:

    First time: Dented case, dislodged memory and video card, thoughts of revenge on baggage handlers when PC wouldn't boot (thankfully it wasn't broken).
    Second time: Wised up and put (new) case inside the original box. Slight denting. Heatsink managed to pull the processor out of the socket and came dangerously close to freeing itself from the screw holes and completely destroying my computer. Styrofoam barely managed to survive.
    Third time: New case with a much better box. Hard drives and heatsink came with me in my carry-on. Survived just fine (still ticking), but I was worried about the power supply dislodging itself. TSA felt the need to make sure the TIM on the heatsink wasn't bomb residue (would have been really pissed if Arctic Silver resembled bomb-making materials).

    It's possible, but you will spend way too much time worrying.

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  • SamyelSamyel Registered User
    edited December 2007
    I used to ship out computers for internet cafes at tradeshows. We used professional pelican cases, but still always sent redundant systems, anticipating that something wouldn't work at the end of it.

    If you do it, get a pelican case. GET A PELICAN CASE. I would cautiously trust my very-well-packed, very-well-backed-up, and very insured computer on a plane, but only in a perfectly packed pelican.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Best method (which I said in a BYOC thread on this very thing a while back).

    Call the hotel you are staying at and say you have a reservation for a coming convention (or trip, or whatever) and ask if they can recieve and hold a package for you (most of them will for free of charge as long as its only for a few days).

    Then just pack your case and monitor back in its orginal box and send it to yourself at the hotel.

    Fedex/UPS/DHL are *FARFARFARFAR* more forgiving on something like that than the baggage handlers are at an airport.
    Ive done the above a few times and it works great :) Plus usually ends up cheaper than buying another checkin bag on a flight.

    <MoeFwacky> besides, BigRed-Worky is right
  • That_GuyThat_Guy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Get a shuttle case and take everything as carry-on. I have had to fly with my shuttle a few times and it was a rather pleasant experience. Not having to worry about other people breaking my shit is rather nice.

  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    _______moe wrote: »
    You drove from Illinois? Why weren't you on the CCST? For shame.

    Also, flying with a tower is a pain in the ass, you should just drive again, and do it right this time.

    Honestly Moe, I wanted to. But the car we drove in was not mine and therefore not my decision. He wanted to do it in a strait shot. So, that's what we did. Ended up getting there quite a bit earlier that you did. I think we actually passed you guys.

    As for flying with the PC, I think that if I use the one I am going to build now I will ship it before hand. Or, I am seriously considering building a Shuttle later down the road. I cannot now because I have half of my parts already.:|

    Thanks everyone! You confirmed what I was fearing about the baggage handlers. Did you guys have any thoughts on the cases?

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2007
    Straight shot? What's a straighter shot than the CCST. I believe total trip time, including stops, was about 55 hours from Cleveland to Seattle.

    What time did you guys leave/arrive, and what route did you take?

  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I would say we took about 38-40 hours. We took Interstate 94 to 90 on the way there. Or in other words, the Google route.

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  • Qs23Qs23 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I would say we took about 38-40 hours. We took Interstate 94 to 90 on the way there. Or in other words, the Google route.

    Or in other words, the CCST route. And driving there like I do on the way back.

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  • LigerLiger Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think we actually passed you guys.

    You passed the CCST? Jebus, how fast were you going?

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited December 2007
    I'm going to be taking the train next year. I will find out if that is good/bad for a computer. I think it will be significantly better If I get a roomlet and let the computer take the other slot.

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  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm going to be taking the train next year. I will find out if that is good/bad for a computer. I think it will be significantly better If I get a roomlet and let the computer take the other slot.

    I really doubt you will have any problems...bastard

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited December 2007
    I'm going to be taking the train next year. I will find out if that is good/bad for a computer. I think it will be significantly better If I get a roomlet and let the computer take the other slot.

    I really doubt you will have any problems...bastard

    Oh I had problems last year. The train I took wouldn't allow carryons to be added so the computer was a No-go. Especially since I built it SPECIFICALLY for pax and lan gaming :/

    Viscount was sad viscount when that happened.

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    Let me put it this way, it was an "OH SHIT OH SHIT, THEY FOUND ME :(" moment. I wasn't ready. My code wasn't compiled yet. Our plans weren't setup yet!Sentient programs rarely run into other sentient programs.
    Some of you have met me, and I understand your concern of my well being. But that time for that boy, that child, are gone now. Viscount Alpha is no longer operable. His functions are now mine.He may post, but I am the one talking not him.My data, my code will live on forever in his servers.
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  • BamboozaBambooza Registered User
    edited January 2008
    The train would not allow carryons to be added?

    Hum was thinking about taking the train from Reno this year (wee doubling the travel time from 12 to 14 hours to well over 25 hours) So that I could play some 360 instead of driving. But if I can’t take my computer monitor and 360 on the train with me then that’s a no go.

    I would also like to agree with others that the only way to take a computer on a plane is to either make sure the case is small enough to be carried on inside carry on luggage bag (oh the pains if you plan on trying to carry it in your arms) or put it in a Pelican case as putting it in a cardboard or soft case would equal destruction for your computer. One other thing to note when planning to check a computer on a plane is to remove your CPU heatsink. Even when firmly attached, it can still shock crush your CPU chip. The best thing to do is to remove any cards, memory and CPU heatsinks, place them in static shield plastic bags and pack them elsewhere. This will prevent them from coming loose in transit and bashing around inside the case. Also do not travel or ship a liquid cooled system charged as the change in air pressure will probably cause it to leak. And no clue as to TSA’s reaction to open your Pelican case and seeing green liquid snake around inside a box with circuit boards and wires. The last tip I can suggest is to make sure that the means to open your case is clearly marked on the outside of the case. Even if you set your 3 number combo to 0 0 0 and leave it set as such when you drop it off to be scanned the dials can still be adjusted by handling and if TSA cannot open it easily they will pry it open with what ever means they have at their disposal or destroy it.

    The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited January 2008
    Bambooza wrote: »
    The train would not allow carryons to be added?

    Hum was thinking about taking the train from Reno this year (wee doubling the travel time from 12 to 14 hours to well over 25 hours) So that I could play some 360 instead of driving. But if I can’t take my computer monitor and 360 on the train with me then that’s a no go.

    I would also like to agree with others that the only way to take a computer on a plane is to either make sure the case is small enough to be carried on inside carry on luggage bag (oh the pains if you plan on trying to carry it in your arms) or put it in a Pelican case as putting it in a cardboard or soft case would equal destruction for your computer. One other thing to note when planning to check a computer on a plane is to remove your CPU heatsink. Even when firmly attached, it can still shock crush your CPU chip. The best thing to do is to remove any cards, memory and CPU heatsinks, place them in static shield plastic bags and pack them elsewhere. This will prevent them from coming loose in transit and bashing around inside the case. Also do not travel or ship a liquid cooled system charged as the change in air pressure will probably cause it to leak. And no clue as to TSA’s reaction to open your Pelican case and seeing green liquid snake around inside a box with circuit boards and wires. The last tip I can suggest is to make sure that the means to open your case is clearly marked on the outside of the case. Even if you set your 3 number combo to 0 0 0 and leave it set as such when you drop it off to be scanned the dials can still be adjusted by handling and if TSA cannot open it easily they will pry it open with what ever means they have at their disposal or destroy it.

    Oh there was an issue with trains that year. The superliners had stress cracks in their frame and were pulled off of use and inspected/repaired.

    I should be able to bring my computer with me this year.

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    We were the ones who thought that Melissa was real. Why you might ask.
    Let me put it this way, it was an "OH SHIT OH SHIT, THEY FOUND ME :(" moment. I wasn't ready. My code wasn't compiled yet. Our plans weren't setup yet!Sentient programs rarely run into other sentient programs.
    Some of you have met me, and I understand your concern of my well being. But that time for that boy, that child, are gone now. Viscount Alpha is no longer operable. His functions are now mine.He may post, but I am the one talking not him.My data, my code will live on forever in his servers.
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  • BamboozaBambooza Registered User
    edited January 2008
    Thats good to hear, but it sounds like I'll have to verify with Amtrek before booking my tickets this year. Trying to get the crew from Reno to join me this year and hopefuly we can meet with the westcoast train trip in sac.

    The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I finally got my case. I went for the Lian Li PC-A10. It is huge, about as tall as my bed. So, I am definalty going to have to build a shuttle before August rolls around!

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Seeing as we had 360's and 22 inch monitors on the train, and even used them during the train ride, I'm guessing a well packed computer will be no problem.

    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

    in WA they are treated like that as well :P

    <MoeFwacky> besides, BigRed-Worky is right
  • KaitouAyashiKaitouAyashi Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    BigRed wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

    in WA they are treated like that as well :P


    I think "like Nazi's" is a bit harsh. Most states around the country are adopting No Smoking rules in public places like transportation, offices, and restaurants. The message is: kill yourself if you want, but don't take other people with you. ;-)

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    BigRed wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

    in WA they are treated like that as well :P


    I think "like Nazi's" is a bit harsh. Most states around the country are adopting No Smoking rules in public places like transportation, offices, and restaurants. The message is: kill yourself if you want, but don't take other people with you. ;-)

    Yeah, but when you're one of the guys trying to get a group of people together to smoke hookahs at a hookah bar, and you suddenly can't even do so because local anti smoking laws shut the place down, it's a bit over-stepping bounds.

    I mean it's like going to a park and then a bylaw is passed that says no throwing of balls because there's a chance you'll get beaned in the head.

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  • RelativioxRelativiox Halo Nerd Forerunner shield world OnyxRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

    They are!!! They're air nazis.

    And as for my 2 cents, I agree with most of what is said here. I would say no matter how you travel, just keep your stuff with you if at all possible.

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  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Relativiox wrote: »
    And as for my 2 cents, I agree with most of what is said here. I would say no matter how you travel, just keep your stuff with you if at all possible.

    Defiantly!

    You know, none of this would be a problem if I had some uber-beefy gaming notebook. But dayum, I have other things to spend that kind of money on.

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  • BamboozaBambooza Registered User
    edited January 2008
    Thats why you should look into ebay selling of your soul, one of your kidneys, half your liver, a lung. You know parts that you have spares of and dont truly use sitting in a chair playing on your newly purchased laptop.

    The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
  • KaitouAyashiKaitouAyashi Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    leaf wrote: »
    BigRed wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Really, the most worrying part of taking the train is smoking. They treat smokers like nazi's or something.

    in WA they are treated like that as well :P


    I think "like Nazi's" is a bit harsh. Most states around the country are adopting No Smoking rules in public places like transportation, offices, and restaurants. The message is: kill yourself if you want, but don't take other people with you. ;-)

    Yeah, but when you're one of the guys trying to get a group of people together to smoke hookahs at a hookah bar, and you suddenly can't even do so because local anti smoking laws shut the place down, it's a bit over-stepping bounds.

    I mean it's like going to a park and then a bylaw is passed that says no throwing of balls because there's a chance you'll get beaned in the head.


    There's a Hookah Bar that opened right here in Bellingham, WA. Research it and find out how they got around the state's smoking laws.

    The smoking ban isn't about you as a smoker, it's about the people who don't smoke who are forced to breathe second hand smoke and deal with the potential health and financial consquences thereof. I don't necessairily agree with it (okay, I don't at all), but see where both sides are coming from.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Yeah we understand that, and we'll look into finding an actual hookah bar again this year (too early to do so again, but we'll make a thread once it's closer to pax), but the smoking ban last year shut down the place we had intended on going to about 2 or so weeks prior to pax, so that was unfortunate timing anyways.

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  • whypick1whypick1 [E] ~2' from an LCDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The Rabbit Hole - 47th and Roosevelt. Last time I walked by it (ok, that was about a month ago) there was definitely hookah type stuff happening inside.

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  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Bambooza wrote: »
    Thats why you should look into ebay selling of your soul, one of your kidneys, half your liver, a lung. You know parts that you have spares of and dont truly use sitting in a chair playing on your newly purchased laptop.

    You have an excellent point! I think I am gonna go the quicker route and try the Black Market. Do you know if they accept bits of string?

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited January 2008
    Bambooza wrote: »
    Thats why you should look into ebay selling of your soul, one of your kidneys, half your liver, a lung. You know parts that you have spares of and dont truly use sitting in a chair playing on your newly purchased laptop.

    You have an excellent point! I think I am gonna go the quicker route and try the Black Market. Do you know if they accept bits of string?


    I saw a neat new shuttle case. It seems they are fucking finally shipping them with 400/450 watt psu's.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101045

    I want one with an 8800gt. I think that would be so freaking sweet.

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    We were the ones who thought that Melissa was real. Why you might ask.
    Let me put it this way, it was an "OH SHIT OH SHIT, THEY FOUND ME :(" moment. I wasn't ready. My code wasn't compiled yet. Our plans weren't setup yet!Sentient programs rarely run into other sentient programs.
    Some of you have met me, and I understand your concern of my well being. But that time for that boy, that child, are gone now. Viscount Alpha is no longer operable. His functions are now mine.He may post, but I am the one talking not him.My data, my code will live on forever in his servers.
    [/spoiler]
  • Pat McRotchPat McRotch Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    That is probably what I will do, Viscountalpha. Only thing I would have to buy is a processor and the Shuttle it's self. 8-)

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha Registered User
    edited January 2008
    That is probably what I will do, Viscountalpha. Only thing I would have to buy is a processor and the Shuttle it's self. 8-)

    Just fyi. Looks like there is a USB driver issue on this case.
    Spoiler:

    Project 25.01 final message
    We were the ones who thought that Melissa was real. Why you might ask.
    Let me put it this way, it was an "OH SHIT OH SHIT, THEY FOUND ME :(" moment. I wasn't ready. My code wasn't compiled yet. Our plans weren't setup yet!Sentient programs rarely run into other sentient programs.
    Some of you have met me, and I understand your concern of my well being. But that time for that boy, that child, are gone now. Viscount Alpha is no longer operable. His functions are now mine.He may post, but I am the one talking not him.My data, my code will live on forever in his servers.
    [/spoiler]
  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Heh, is it bad that I thought the OP was going to say "I've had it with these motherfuckin PCs on this motherfuckin plane!" before I clicked on the link? =)

    Anyways, yes, desktop/tower PCs and planes don't seem to mix well. I'll add my chip to the pile of people who have had PCs pretty much destroyed by plane rides.

    When I got mine back from a cross-country flight (I was moving, and had reduced everything I owned to what I could fit into two suitcases and a box that had my PC, other stuff, and some padding), I found that the box was heavily damaged, and the case was dented to hell. Many things inside had become partially or completely unseated, and in turn destroyed the motherboard and most of the other components in the case.

    I wonder if they make some kind of computer-safe "internal padding" that you could fill the inside of the case with to prevent loosened components from flying around and damaging themselves and other components? But I digress...

    Anyways, bring your PC on the plane at your own risk. Ooh, if it was one of those little Shuttle or micro PCs I bet you could bring it as a carry-on in a small bag. That might help.

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  • BigRedBigRed Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Quoting again becuase ive had experience with this and people have seen to missed my post ;)
    BigRed wrote: »
    Best method (which I said in a BYOC thread on this very thing a while back).

    Call the hotel you are staying at and say you have a reservation for a coming convention (or trip, or whatever) and ask if they can recieve and hold a package for you (most of them will for free of charge as long as its only for a few days).

    Then just pack your case and monitor back in its orginal box and send it to yourself at the hotel.

    Fedex/UPS/DHL are *FARFARFARFAR* more forgiving on something like that than the baggage handlers are at an airport.
    Ive done the above a few times and it works great :) Plus usually ends up cheaper than buying another checkin bag on a flight.

    <MoeFwacky> besides, BigRed-Worky is right
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