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What the Fuck New Jersey

Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,877155,00.html

A judge in New Jersey is denying a couple the right to adopt a second child because the father is an atheist.
Despite the Burkes' "high moral and ethical standards," he said, the New Jersey state constitution declares that "no person shall be deprived of the inestimable privilege of worshiping Almighty God in a manner agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience." Despite Eleanor Katherine's tender years, he continued, "the child should have the freedom to worship as she sees fit, and not be influenced by prospective parents who do not believe in a Supreme Being."

What the fuck?

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    DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The death of religion will herald the coming of the next golden age of mankind.

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Where do the adoption centers even find out this stuff? Are you required to put your religion down on the forms?

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Love the article title.

    Seriously, this is fucking retarded and will not withstand the appeal

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Where do the adoption centers even find out this stuff? Are you required to put your religion down on the forms?

    Yes.

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Where do the adoption centers even find out this stuff? Are you required to put your religion down on the forms?

    Yes.

    Shouldn't have posted until I read the article. That was my :oops: .

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    s7apsters7apster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    This is seriously fucked. The child should be allowed to worship how he/she sees fit and not be affected by parents who do not believe in a higher being? Thats in their constitution? That sentence alone is so retarded.

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    ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh New Jersey. So high from the petrochemical fumes.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't suppose this applies to fundie parents who insist that believing the wrong thing nets you an eternity in hell.

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    NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    What if you believe in a religion that has no supreme being?

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    No
    but

    How can not believing make you ineligible if believing doesn't also disqualify you

    People with specific faiths will naturally tend to attempt to raise their child according to their own religious beliefs

    Meaning that no child's freedom of religion can be guaranteed by anyone

    So I mean...

    New Jersey? Wtf?

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    s7apsters7apster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Narian wrote: »
    What if you believe in a religion that has no supreme being?

    In the states, christianity is king
    :?

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    ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't see this judge holding office for much longer.

    I mean really.

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Family Court judges are usually total rejects anyway

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    lunasealunasea Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Monday, Dec. 07, 1970 ?_?

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "the child should have the freedom to worship as she sees fit

    and not be influenced by prospective parents who do not believe in a Supreme Being.

    does.not.compute.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The kid should have the freedom to find Jesus as his personal savior in any way he chooses.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Don't you rag on my st--

    Oh. Wow. Erm.

    I thought we were liberal? And like...not that retarded?

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    While obviously stupid, this is pretty detrimental to religious causes, as it says that people can only find Jesus if their parents are Christians as well.

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    Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    s7apster wrote: »
    Narian wrote: »
    What if you believe in a religion that has no supreme being?

    In the states, christianity is king
    :?

    SHUT YOUR FILTHY WHORE MOUTH

    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Family Court judges are usually total rejects anyway
    Instead, Superior Court Judge William Camarata raised the religious issue.
    He probably deals with more than family issues, but yes.

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    s7apsters7apster Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    The kid should have the freedom to find Jesus as his personal savior in any way he chooses.

    lol you remind me of Stephen Colbert

    Colbert08 woot

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Narian wrote: »
    What if you believe in a religion that has no supreme being?

    Then you're not a christian and therefore therefore not eligible under their thinly-veiled christian laws.

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    john fechonjohn fechon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    lunasea wrote: »
    Monday, Dec. 07, 1970 ?_?

    I checked around, can't find any other news stories on this. Is this really that old, or has no one else picked it up?

    Third option: My googling sucks.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So yeah. That was an article from 1970.

    The kid is in his/her mid to late 30's now, most likely, and was, in fact, raised by John and Cynthia Burke. It was reversed on appeal the next year.

    Damn misleading interwebs.

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    Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    That's what I get for believing that someone would post something recent, not from 38 stupid years ago.

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    john fechonjohn fechon Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    correction:
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20F1FFD3A5B1A7493C0A9178CD85F458785F9

    Very old, this case has been solved, I actually searched the 70's instead of the 2000's. Silly google.

    edit: Beat, curse you Dracomicron

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    hehe

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Dracomicron wrote: »
    So yeah. That was an article from 1970.

    The kid is in his/her mid to late 30's now, most likely, and was, in fact, raised by John and Cynthia Burke. It was reversed on appeal the next year.

    I managed to call a result from ten years before I was born

    booyah

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Whoops!

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh.

    What the hell Jersey from the past.

    Jerseynow you're pretty chill.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited January 2008
    Whoops, indeed.


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