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D&D 4th Edition: 1 day until multiclassing Preview. (38)

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    I have played and DM'd D&D for over fifteen years

    I've never used miniatures. Ever.

    Never had a problem, really.

    Heck, for the longest time we didn't even use gridmaps for combats. That lasted until someone made a Spiked Chain wielding tripper. God damn.

  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous WALK 3X FASTER New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Am I the only one who thought of

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    when reading the "Eternal Hero" entry?

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    I have played and DM'd D&D for over fifteen years

    I've never used miniatures. Ever.

    Never had a problem, really.
    I have played and DM'd D&D for over 25 years. I was usually ok until we got to 3rd, and then things just got retarded if people wanted to use every feat available. I could only houserule so much and then finally threw my hands up. Maybe I'm just a dumb-ass.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Since I'm feeling fantastically generous, someone can create the new thread tomorrow when the multiclassing article hits.

    You may all kiss my ring in thanks.

  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Am I the only one who thought of

    *snip*

    when reading the "Eternal Hero" entry?

    This does make it make more sense to me, yes.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Since I'm feeling fantastically generous, someone can create the new thread tomorrow when the multiclassing article hits.

    You may all kiss my ring in thanks.

    I always knew you were at least 10th level.

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  • NORNOR Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Also, I think this is something you guys would take interest in:

    Example of the 4e Skill Challenge system

    (this is not official in any sense, merely working off of extrapolation)

    Some of the people posting in that thread are Blithering idiots.

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  • MaticoreMaticore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    NOR wrote: »
    Also, I think this is something you guys would take interest in:

    Example of the 4e Skill Challenge system

    (this is not official in any sense, merely working off of extrapolation)

    Some of the people posting in that thread are Blithering idiots.

    I had to stop because they were so stupid.

  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    hehehe

    glad I could give you guys a glimpse into the vastly inferior Rpgnet community

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  • NORNOR Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Maticore wrote: »
    NOR wrote: »
    Also, I think this is something you guys would take interest in:

    Example of the 4e Skill Challenge system

    (this is not official in any sense, merely working off of extrapolation)

    Some of the people posting in that thread are Blithering idiots.

    I had to stop because they were so stupid.

    "Here is (strawman that is easily disproven by the rules quoted), clearly this system is bad."

    The worse part? No one is pointing this out to him, no one at all.

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  • MaticoreMaticore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Who's making the new thread for 4e? I'd like there to be monday/wednesday/friday updates on it like there were for the G&T smash bros threads, and i'm willing to put a bit of time into a new OP. Was there someone whose job it was going to be?

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Multiclassing rules are up.

    Basically, true multiclassing no longer exists.

    Once you pick a class, that's your class. You can take feats to get some of the powers and skills of another class (and only one other class), but if you're a Fighter, you are a Fighter.

    So, you can be a Fighter with Wizard spells and training in Arcana, but you are still a Fighter. And you will always will be.

    True multi-classing is dead.

    The nerd rage is going to be massive!

  • NORNOR Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Nerd rage is always massive.

    Also annoying and short lived.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    the gnashing of teeth will be heard for miles

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    To be honest, I like it!

    If you're a wizard, you're a wizard! You've trained, you've apprenticed, your 1st level of Wizard represents something special.

    Just because you take some time to learn to swing a sword and pick up a few tricks does not make you a Fighter.

    However, if you're truly dedicated to something like, Cleric/Wizard, you could just do that instead of taking a Paragon Path (which is detailed further in the Paragon Path article)

    I like it!

  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    also mati hurry and make the new thread

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Interestingly enough, and unexpectadly, the multiclass feats don't come with any free proficiencies.

    So, if you want to play a Wizard who picks up some Fighter powers, you should probably bust a feat on some sword proficiency too.

    Unless you're some elven faggot.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    notice how Paladin is the most difficult of the four presented to multiclass-feat into

    Probably because Paladins are huge badasses

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    notice how Paladin is the most difficult of the four presented to multiclass-feat into

    Probably because Paladins are huge badasses

    and Rangers are the easiest, because it's Strength or Dexterity.

  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I like this.

    Having a ranger that could sneak attack as a rogue of the same level once per encounter is a damn fine idea.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    True multi-classing is dead.

    The nerd rage is going to be colossal!

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well since according to this I can still make a fighter/rogue or a fighter/mage or a cleric/wizard or whatever, I don't know that it's dead dead. I mean wouldn't you say true multi-classing died with 3rd, too, it was totally reworked from 2e as well?

    I just wonder how Class + Class vs Class + Paragon will work out.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Triple-classing is extra dead unless you get creative.

    On the plus side: I like new classes better anyways.

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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    True multi-classing is dead.

    The nerd rage is going to get +8 to grapple checks and have two more squares of reach!

  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well since according to this I can still make a fighter/rogue or a fighter/mage or a cleric/wizard or whatever, I don't know that it's dead dead. I mean wouldn't you say true multi-classing died with 3rd, too, it was totally reworked from 2e as well?

    This is a good point.

    In 3e you can't make a level 20 Theif/Fighter/Mage (unless of course he's level 60)

    But y'know what I liked it better than slogging through the dual- or triple- classing of 2e.

    Now in 4e you can't be a Monk 2 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 3 / Ninja 1 / etc / etc / etc

    Perhaps this is not a bad thing.

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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    WOW! The rage will ignite Fires in many many basements across the globe.

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  • OhtheVogonityOhtheVogonity Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    In all honesty it seems to me to be more of a return to form than the death of a feature. Seriously, in Ye Olde 1st Edition, you almost always just the one class, and if you took on two you knew it meant sacrificing specialization for utility.

    I like this much better than muddying up your character concept with 6 different classes in search of the powers you want to have.

    So nerd rage can go kick rocks for all I care.

    I like this.

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  • NORNOR Registered User
    edited April 2008
    If warlords are as good at moving their allies and enemies around as they look to be a Wizard/warlord might just be a damn good combination of powers.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I was too busy squealing at the completely ridiculous concept of a paladin with warlock powers

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  • MaticoreMaticore Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    New thread is UP!

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