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Going for Baroque! (wah wah wah waaaaaahhhhhh)

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User
    edited April 2008
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

    Well, there is that restoration station that sits before the tower that restores all your VT and HP...

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    l_g wrote: »
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

    Well, there is that restoration station that sits before the tower that restores all your VT and HP...

    Really?

    :oops:

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  • Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm digging the game so far. I've put 10 hours in and racked up 8 deaths. It does stray from the rogue-like template, but the real time action works pretty well. The game moves slow enough. They did get the random levels and items right, which is more important.

    I found an orb that sent items back to the collector, but I tested it out with rotten flesh and it wouldn't take anything else after that. I didn't realize that Eliza led the Protagonist to orbs. I saw them at one point, but I didn't cross my mind that they were what I was looking for.

    I've delved down to -1000 cubits where I was overrun by the bouncing things and the spikey, lusty things. I was level 20, but it was a good death. I did, however, die while I left the game unattended. I had picked up glass wings and was waiting for my health to recover after 'clearing' the dungeon level.

    I also enjoy playing catch with the various denizens of the dungeon. The box guy gave me hope wings when I had antidote wings glued to my back and the Mind Reader taught me how far down the rabbit hole goes (-1600 cubits). She also put mines on the ground and a big-headed dancing thing trip it and killed me.

    Unfortunate Death has become my baroque.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I also enjoy playing catch with the various denizens of the dungeon. The box guy gave me hope wings when I had antidote wings glued to my back and the Mind Reader taught me how far down the rabbit hole goes (-1600 cubits). She also put mines on the ground and a big-headed dancing thing trip it and killed me.

    Unfortunate Death has become my baroque.
    Yeah, whenever you give her any item she spits out a bunch of bones and disks; the "-1600" you saw was probably an identification bone that tells you the lowest depth when it hits the ground.

    Didn't know the box guy would do anything like that though.

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  • LordGekLordGek Registered User
    edited April 2008
    I also enjoy playing catch with the various denizens of the dungeon. The box guy gave me hope wings when I had antidote wings glued to my back and the Mind Reader taught me how far down the rabbit hole goes (-1600 cubits). She also put mines on the ground and a big-headed dancing thing trip it and killed me.

    Unfortunate Death has become my baroque.
    Yeah, whenever you give her any item she spits out a bunch of bones and disks; the "-1600" you saw was probably an identification bone that tells you the lowest depth when it hits the ground.

    Didn't know the box guy would do anything like that though.

    Yep, Box Guy will gladly trade you the box he is holding for any box you have on you. Even weirder though is if you give him a box when he has no box...he'll still reward you with a random box.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    By the way, I'm writing a guide for this game, hopefully the first version will be up at GFAQs soon. :P

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oh awesome, this is getting released on the 6th of June in the UK. I figured it wasn't going to make it over.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    This is part of a list I have in my upcoming guide. It's every item that you can count on enemies to drop. Sometimes the dropped item is unidentified, but it's still one of the two things that enemy can drop. Unfortunately I don't quite have all of them.

    Moon (fish) - Experience Bone, Port Bone

    Glue (tiny bug) - ???, ???

    Kato (rolling turtle) - Antidote Fluid, Indefinite Box

    Bullger (small version, fat green woman) - Fire Disk, Aprsl Parasite

    Seventeen (wheel shooter) - Summon Torturer, Lethargy Bone

    Gliro (monkey) - Heart Seed, stolen items

    Bullger (large version, fat green woman) - Sight Fluid, Churyu Flesh

    Jerryrom (small version, big head with grin) - No Name Torturer, Heart Seed

    Soconpo (bouncing eyeball) - Double Edge Box, Food Disk

    Liar (snail woman) - Unbrand Brand, Elec Parasite

    Death (mechanical coffin) - Storm Disk, Sweat Bone

    Or-huganous (wire man) - Recovery Box, Special Fluid

    Sin-Monis (mushroom-like sucker) - Sweat Bone, Twin Box

    Jerryrom (large version, big head with grin) - Flame Disk, Boom Bone

    Sun (green hall-blocker) - Port Bone, Revolution Torturer

    Nicl & Nicr (flesh with big mouth) - Recovery Torturer, No Name Torturer

    Magician (card) - Mine Disk, Ice Disk

    Aries ( 4 goat legs man) - Sight Fluid, Rotten Bone

    Cocteauhead (bubble man) - Poison Torturer, Me Brand

    Moon (gold version, fish) - Experience Bone, Port Bone

    Johanna Kyon (people wrapped with caution tape) - Earplug Bone, ???

    Notable ones:

    - Seventeen's Summon Disk is awesome for rounding everything up in a level quickly.

    - Watch out for Soconpo's Food Disk, it will totally destroy your inventory.

    - Liar has two good items. The Unbrand Brand is the best way to cure "curses," when something gets stuck to you.

    - Or-Huganous's Special Fluid is very helpful later on when you get hit with every status effect known to man. Especially for curing Stomachache.

    - Be extremely cautious with Sun's torturer, it can nearly kill you in an instant if your meters are high.

    - Cocteauhead's Me Brand is very useful. It's essentially another consciousness orb, only you don't have to give up the item. You'll want an Unbrand Brand to get rid of the left over No Brand afterwards, though.

    If you get more info on these, please share it.

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  • LordGekLordGek Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Glue (tiny bug) - ???, ???

    Great work there, UncleSporky! I did notice Glues often dropping Antidote Fluid.

    The game site implied Glues come from Katos...but I think I see them more as Moon companions (although this may just be since they are the two lowest level beasties). Have you ever seen a Kato spew out a Glue?

  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    l_g wrote: »
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

    Well, there is that restoration station that sits before the tower that restores all your VT and HP...

    Really?

    :oops:

    It's incredibly easy to miss because it looks quite frankly like a few bits of dark brown atop the already beige-colored sand. It is also hilariously mentioned in passing by that coffin guy after you do his tutorial. Why the damn thing isn't highlighted I don't know, because it's kinda important and easy to miss.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    LordGek wrote: »
    Glue (tiny bug) - ???, ???

    Great work there, UncleSporky! I did notice Glues often dropping Antidote Fluid.

    The game site implied Glues come from Katos...but I think I see them more as Moon companions (although this may just be since they are the two lowest level beasties). Have you ever seen a Kato spew out a Glue?
    Yes I have, and this is in the guide too. Usually you kill Kato too quickly to see it, but when they lose a lot of HP they get down on their bellies and act like turtles. At this stage they can release Glues out of their tail.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    l_g wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

    Well, there is that restoration station that sits before the tower that restores all your VT and HP...

    Really?

    :oops:

    It's incredibly easy to miss because it looks quite frankly like a few bits of dark brown atop the already beige-colored sand. It is also hilariously mentioned in passing by that coffin guy after you do his tutorial. Why the damn thing isn't highlighted I don't know, because it's kinda important and easy to miss.

    goddamnit.

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  • JouleJoule Registered User
    edited April 2008
    l_g wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    I haven't yet addressed the problem of town exploration. At this point I'm assuming you just do it, die and hit the tower when you're revived. Dying does not seem to be that big of a deal in this game.

    Well, there is that restoration station that sits before the tower that restores all your VT and HP...

    Really?

    :oops:

    It's incredibly easy to miss because it looks quite frankly like a few bits of dark brown atop the already beige-colored sand. It is also hilariously mentioned in passing by that coffin guy after you do his tutorial. Why the damn thing isn't highlighted I don't know, because it's kinda important and easy to miss.

    goddamnit.

    I was running around just trying to find this thing. Turns out I went everywhere except where it actually was. Ugh.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I was just thinking it would be cool if you could use a flip disk and take it with you, but then I remembered that the reverse side doesn't let you pick it up, it drains your health and VT instead.

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  • LordGekLordGek Registered User
    edited April 2008
    LordGek wrote: »
    Glue (tiny bug) - ???, ???

    Great work there, UncleSporky! I did notice Glues often dropping Antidote Fluid.

    The game site implied Glues come from Katos...but I think I see them more as Moon companions (although this may just be since they are the two lowest level beasties). Have you ever seen a Kato spew out a Glue?
    Yes I have, and this is in the guide too. Usually you kill Kato too quickly to see it, but when they lose a lot of HP they get down on their bellies and act like turtles. At this stage they can release Glues out of their tail.

    Ahh, in turtle form they're almost always a hit away from death so I don't let them live in that state for more than a few seconds.

  • fdiskcdrivefdiskcdrive Registered User
    edited April 2008
    So I feel like I might be missing something. I am really, really enjoying the game though. Having a lot more fun with it than I thought I was going to. I put about 12 hours in over the weekend which says a lot.

    How do you get to the lower sections of the tower?
    Spoiler:

    I have never been a huge fan of rogues but I'm having a blast with this game. If only the reviewers were minutely into rogues and not going into the game expecting some grandiose japanese rpg.

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  • GinsaneGinsane Registered User
    edited April 2008
    So I feel like I might be missing something. I am really, really enjoying the game though. Having a lot more fun with it than I thought I was going to. I put about 12 hours in over the weekend which says a lot.

    How do you get to the lower sections of the tower?
    Spoiler:

    I have never been a huge fan of rogues but I'm having a blast with this game. If only the reviewers were minutely into rogues and not going into the game expecting some grandiose japanese rpg.
    Spoiler:

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ginsane wrote: »
    So I feel like I might be missing something. I am really, really enjoying the game though. Having a lot more fun with it than I thought I was going to. I put about 12 hours in over the weekend which says a lot.

    How do you get to the lower sections of the tower?
    Spoiler:

    I have never been a huge fan of rogues but I'm having a blast with this game. If only the reviewers were minutely into rogues and not going into the game expecting some grandiose japanese rpg.
    Spoiler:
    This is right. Without spoiling too much:
    Spoiler:

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  • fdiskcdrivefdiskcdrive Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Spoiler:

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  • GinsaneGinsane Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Spoiler:
    Just incase you wonder. More spoilerage. What you should do.
    Spoiler:

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  • JouleJoule Registered User
    edited April 2008
    So I was thinking man I feel like turning all these Meta Beings into some rotten meat so I use my summoner and they're all in one room but before I could use my Turn them all in to rotten meat Torturer I get hit for 1/3 of my life. Damn these snake ladies in the -1000 cubits area hurt.

  • GinsaneGinsane Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Joule wrote: »
    So I was thinking man I feel like turning all these Meta Beings into some rotten meat so I use my summoner and they're all in one room but before I could use my Turn them all in to rotten meat Torturer I get hit for 1/3 of my life. Damn these snake ladies in the -1000 cubits area hurt.

    I only do that when I have an invincible and double xp bone on me. I hate to reload a save. Feels cheap, even though at times, I still do that sort of thing. I try to randomly save them up to blitz through the Tower, when I feel like actually searching, and killing everything in sight. Sometimes I get the need to run through to the end, or certain npcs, just to excitedly try out some combo on them.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ginsane wrote: »
    Spoiler:
    Just incase you wonder. More spoilerage. What you should do.
    Spoiler:
    I've heard if you don't deal the blows yourself and instead give him heart seeds like he asks, you can start every new life with a heart fruit, on the ground where he used to be.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ok, I got the game and have put a couple hours into it =)

    (got delivered early and to the wrong address, but at least I have it)

    Wow .... that's some brown and gray. Don't get me wrong, because I like the style and I really like the way things far away from you in the tower look kind of fuzzy and I love the characters, but wow .... brown and gray for everything?! Ah well hehe

    The music is pretty good imho. Nothing I'd listen to outside of game, but it suits the atmosphere I think.

    I'd like to be able to carry more items, but maybe I'll be able to do that as the game progresses?

    I'm having a lot of fun with it and even though the camera is kind of clunky at times, I'm not having any problems with attacking at all. Throwing I am no good at though =/ Hope it won't hinder me too much.

    a couple questions.
    Spoiler:

    also
    Spoiler:

    edit: I definatly proclaim this a very good $40.00 buy.

  • LordGekLordGek Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Ok, I got the game and have put a couple hours into it =)

    (got delivered early and to the wrong address, but at least I have it)

    Wow .... that's some brown and gray. Don't get me wrong, because I like the style and I really like the way things far away from you in the tower look kind of fuzzy and I love the characters, but wow .... brown and gray for everything?! Ah well hehe

    The music is pretty good imho. Nothing I'd listen to outside of game, but it suits the atmosphere I think.

    I'd like to be able to carry more items, but maybe I'll be able to do that as the game progresses?

    I'm having a lot of fun with it and even though the camera is kind of clunky at times, I'm not having any problems with attacking at all. Throwing I am no good at though =/ Hope it won't hinder me too much.

    a couple questions.
    Spoiler:

    also
    Spoiler:

    edit: I definatly proclaim this a very good $40.00 buy.
    Spoiler:

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doesn't have to be spoiled, does it?

    I didn't know you could get empty boxes, I thought they just disappeared. I know there are dead parasites and no brands, but I haven't tried that yet.

    I do know that if you throw the Cursebringer an NPC's Sephirah you will always get the same item back. Like, A heart seed for Longneck, that sort of thing.

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  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Man, I already bought this but I've been looking at reviews for this game, and let me say I've never seen a more unfairly reviewed game. How many idiot, point-missing reviewers can there really be out there? Thank goodness for that one 78% review, now only if it showed up on metacritic...

    This game really needs video review where a scottish dude says "The problem with Baroque is that it's just a game where you die and start again. The genius of Baroque, is that it's just a game where you die and start again. Many people will misunderstand it" and so on.

  • thepricetheprice Registered User
    edited April 2008
    I picked up this game last night and I'm finding it pretty interesting, if a bit confusing and occasionally frustrating.

    The thing that annoys me is that I can't seem to find the orbs that send items back to town. I found one metal sphere that took a single item but I haven't found any more like it since then. Is this really the only way to get items from the tower back into town? I'm wondering if other orbs don't look like the first one I found and I'm just missing them. I have 2 of those crystal ball things that I'd like to send back before I die again and it would be nice to know what I'm looking for. Apparently I already missed the orb by the woman who went through the wall early on. I didn't even see anything near her that looked like that metal ball.

  • LordGekLordGek Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Doesn't have to be spoiled, does it?
    I didn't know you could get empty boxes, I thought they just disappeared. I know there are dead parasites and no brands, but I haven't tried that yet.
    Spoiler:

  • GinsaneGinsane Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Ginsane wrote: »
    Spoiler:
    Just incase you wonder. More spoilerage. What you should do.
    Spoiler:
    I've heard if you don't deal the blows yourself and instead give him heart seeds like he asks, you can start every new life with a heart fruit, on the ground where he used to be.

    O? I gave him one, and then finished him off. So wouldn't know. But now I'm sad inside.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    theprice wrote: »
    I picked up this game last night and I'm finding it pretty interesting, if a bit confusing and occasionally frustrating.

    The thing that annoys me is that I can't seem to find the orbs that send items back to town. I found one metal sphere that took a single item but I haven't found any more like it since then. Is this really the only way to get items from the tower back into town? I'm wondering if other orbs don't look like the first one I found and I'm just missing them. I have 2 of those crystal ball things that I'd like to send back before I die again and it would be nice to know what I'm looking for. Apparently I already missed the orb by the woman who went through the wall early on. I didn't even see anything near her that looked like that metal ball.

    I had this problem too. I've just resigned myself to the fact that I'll be playing through this a LOT.

    Least you can get items from the training dungeon.

    Question.
    Spoiler:

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    theprice wrote: »
    I picked up this game last night and I'm finding it pretty interesting, if a bit confusing and occasionally frustrating.

    The thing that annoys me is that I can't seem to find the orbs that send items back to town. I found one metal sphere that took a single item but I haven't found any more like it since then. Is this really the only way to get items from the tower back into town? I'm wondering if other orbs don't look like the first one I found and I'm just missing them. I have 2 of those crystal ball things that I'd like to send back before I die again and it would be nice to know what I'm looking for. Apparently I already missed the orb by the woman who went through the wall early on. I didn't even see anything near her that looked like that metal ball.

    All the transfer orbs in the game:
    Spoiler:
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Question.
    Spoiler:
    Look at it more closely in your item list. There should be a little <L at the bottom, meaning press L to see what brand is attached to it. A Glue Brand! How can you get rid of a brand?
    Spoiler:

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    awesome =)

    also, glue brand my ass =/

    never even thought to look hehe

  • fdiskcdrivefdiskcdrive Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Finally I get to play again tonight. I've been looking forward to (end of -1600 tower spoiler)
    Spoiler:

    Also, I really don't mind the controls at all anymore. I inverted the X and Y camera axis, and now the game plays pretty much like a 3rd person shooter. I use the left stick to move (primarily forward and backward, left and right when I want to strafe), and use the right stick to turn. I was also complaining about the throwing stuff before, and throwing has become much easier after a little bit of practice.

    All in all the reviews of this game really infuriate me. I am glad I bought this game before reading any.

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  • Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ugh. Theres only one review on Amazon right now and its 1/5 stars. The guy says its more of a FPS than a RPG. Someone needs to write a fairer review for them.

  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Ugh. Theres only one review on Amazon right now and its 1/5 stars. The guy says its more of a FPS than a RPG. Someone needs to write a fairer review for them.

    What. the. FUCK?

    I tried to review it there but it says I need to have purchased it from Amazon. I guess Amazon Canada doesn't count, huh.

  • cjeriscjeris Registered User
    edited April 2008
    Haven't gotten down past -400 yet, but I've died several times. I've been hanging onto bones until their effects are useful. Should I just be chomping the less useful ones (like Port Bones) for HP/VT instead?

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  • NamrokNamrok Herndon, VARegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    cjeris wrote: »
    Haven't gotten down past -400 yet, but I've died several times. I've been hanging onto bones until their effects are useful. Should I just be chomping the less useful ones (like Port Bones) for HP/VT instead?

    That's what I do. Other helpful things I've learned is to not hesitate to throw stuff. At first I was hanging onto all my extra equipment for some fucking reason. Just throw EVERYTHING you don't have equiped. Swords, wings, coats, brands, crystals, you name it. I mean, what you'd like to do is throw the crystals into consciousness orbs in order to get the baroques from them, but that's not always possible. They do some GREAT damage too.

    If there is an enemy you aren't so great at killing, just throw stuff at him.

    Oh yeah, and if you can, only eat hearts and flesh when you are already at full HP/VT. The boost to your max is far, far more helpful than any healing benefit.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Namrok wrote: »
    cjeris wrote: »
    Haven't gotten down past -400 yet, but I've died several times. I've been hanging onto bones until their effects are useful. Should I just be chomping the less useful ones (like Port Bones) for HP/VT instead?

    That's what I do. Other helpful things I've learned is to not hesitate to throw stuff. At first I was hanging onto all my extra equipment for some fucking reason. Just throw EVERYTHING you don't have equiped. Swords, wings, coats, brands, crystals, you name it. I mean, what you'd like to do is throw the crystals into consciousness orbs in order to get the baroques from them, but that's not always possible. They do some GREAT damage too.

    If there is an enemy you aren't so great at killing, just throw stuff at him.

    Oh yeah, and if you can, only eat hearts and flesh when you are already at full HP/VT. The boost to your max is far, far more helpful than any healing benefit.

    Yeah, throwing stuff is great. Many items that you wouldn't expect will do extra neat effects, like status effects (status healing fluids) or cutting the enemy to 50% HP (Double Edge Box).

    I mean, you're only equipping one sword, so make your choice and projectile the rest.

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