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You know, probably SOMEBODY is. Somebody beats off to people eating shit, so probably there's at least one excited person. Goddamn that is creepy.
How do you not grasp that Boba's death is not something that is irrefutable? Geeze, you're a douchebag.
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process."
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Yeah, he considered it, AND THEN DIDN'T DO IT. Read the Wikipedia article. It says that Fett surviving WENT AGAINST his intentions as of the time he released the film. In other words, when he put the film out the door, his vision, which is clearly fucking communicated in the film, is that Fett died there.
And seriously, if you showed that movie to someone who knew nothing of Star Wars, do you think they'd go "nah, that guy might still be alive" or "yeah, he's dead." Try to be honest for just one second here.
Read more closely.
"Although not his original intent, George Lucas has stated that he has "no problem" with fans and writers having Fett survive..."
Having Fett survive was not Lucas' intent. It's crystal-clear.
And as you already pointed out, there's no reason to have him survive. He's a bit character, he's not important to the story, so having him die is appropriate.
Defender flips the fuck out over having Fett survive.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
George Lucas has no problem selling out his IP to some of the shittiest writers in the universe.
I appreciate good art. And hate bad art.
And also what I'm "flipping the fuck out" about isn't so much that Fett survives, because I really don't care about that. It's that people try to pass it off like it's not terrible writing for the sake of fanservice, like it is actually how a good story would and should go.
lucas is a shitty writer to begin with
You don't like it. You don't have to.
Just, don't like it quietly.
Because really who fucking cares?
Fett falling into the pit is G canon. Fett dying in the pit is never shown. Fett falling into the pit and then blasting his way out is C canon, dovetails smoothly from the last sight of Fett in G canon and does not contradict it, and is therefore authoritative.
And as far as good art, bad art goes...it's George Lucas. Purveyor of fuel for comic book titles and internet banter, not Profound Literature Man.
At this point, it's mostly because lively Star Wars internet forum debates are amusing to watch.
What article is this?
http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381
I felt like the first three movies came out well. I guess that I'm directly disputing that he's a shitty writer...I dunno. Maybe I'd say...he's an OK writer? Something like that. Anyway, the first three movies were pretty damn good, I think.
Well, it is now. It didn't start that way. Hell, it's basically not possible to start that way, because you need characters that fans want to see in order to have fanservice.
I'd say it started to be fan service right about when you find out Vader is Luke's father. Shit I first saw Return of the Jedi when I was 7 years old and even I could see what a fucking cop out rationale Obi Wan gave when Luke called him on it
EDIT: Also when you find out about Luke and Leia being siblings. It's painfully apparent none of that was crossing Lucas' mind when he wrote ANH
:whistle:
You like the movies but you bitch about everything in them.
So you don't like them?
But you do?
Make up your fucking mind, assholes.
By that rationale, I'm not a Star Wars fan. I liked the originals, I don't see them as flawless, and I don't like the new stuff. It's pretty simple.
Yes I am keenly aware of that. I even remember the first time I saw The Hidden Fortress and I was just like "oh my god change these peasants to robots and we have the beginning of Star Wars." Again, I'm not saying he's a great writer, but the first three movies came out pretty well, especially ESB.
Also, to get right down to it, art and science are both things which build on the past. "Standing on the shoulders of giants" and all that. I'm not saying that anyone will stand on Lucas' shoulders in the future, but I feel like "plagiarism" is a little too strong.
Hating everything about a movie series, but managing to love it.
Yes there were flaws in the original trilogy.
But they weren't so bad that they made me not like it.
Yeah I agree with those two points. Especially the "oops fuck they are now related" part.
Yeah, that's about how I feel. The thing didn't work out perfectly right, but it did a good job overall, even though it fucked up on details. The bigger themes came through fine.
To many self proclaimed "fans", Star Wars is less about the movies and the books, but rather the potential they feel the concept possesses. That and an unhealthy amount of unflinching nostalgia. So, when they see someone (Lucas) take a dump on their favorite passtime, they feel that such potential is being squandered. They have such a high opinion of the concept of Star Wars, that no sensory representation of it will live up to the unreachable expectations set by the fanbase.
like to the point that i used to write fanfics. in my defense they did not include me, they were not erotic and if i do say so myself they were usually better written than a lot of the published EU crap.
having said that it is still a sign of being a dork.
however i haven't watched them in a while. i mean they're good, but not something i particularly enjoy watching anymore.
indiana jones now, that's different.
I mean, I didn't like the second trilogy.
Do you know why? Because it was bad. Not because it sullied the name of the first three films, but just because it was bad and shouldn't have been made.
Those people are just silly.
But then you run into a very direct problem.
The scene was cut, and Lucas has stated that Fett surviving went against his intentions. He didn't care, but he still said that he intended for Fett to die there. So Fett dying has to be "G canon" because Lucas himself directly said it. Then Fett NOT dying, because of a scene that didn't get put into the movie (assuming it was actually filmed and then cut) is also "G canon," which means that we have canonical events that contradict each other. So if it was never actually filmed, then Fett's death is canon. If it was filmed, but then cut (and is thus a "deleted scene"), then we have a contradiction.
OK, so that's fine, but it's not unreasonable to have different expectations based on the name.
If a new God Of War came out and Kratos wasn't brutally murdering gigantic mythological monsters and battling gods or titans or something, I'd consider that to be very bad. If the controls were kinda OK but a little clunky, that would be very bad. This is because there's an expectation set up by the previous entries in the franchise. It's not unreasonable to expect at least a consistent level of quality. So, yeah, the new movies were baaaaad...but they were delivered to people who expected the level of quality from the old movies, which just made them look even worse. You really do have to consider context here.
I basicly don't give shit about Star Wars either way, but I really enjoyed this article.