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[OOC] Exalted: Saga of the Rivers

destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Critical Failures
Ok, since the game Arcanis has set up (Over Here) has reached critical mass I figured I'd set this up to catch any who want to play but cannot. just pipe up and we'll see what happens.

Any exalt types are fair game, although I'll be limiting the number of players to 5-6 max.

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  • GraycoinGraycoin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, I'm not 100 percent sure what I'm agreeing to here, given I'm just now getting a handle on what the heck I'm building in terms of a character, but if it'll make things run smoother, sure, I'll work with it.

    Speaking of that, still working on a character. Its kind of slow going between trying to learn how to make a sheet, figuring out all these resplendent whathaveyous and astrological malarky, not to mention making a character for the first time. Hopefully the game doesn't start for a couple of days at least. :P Lemme know if you need to know anything terribly specific though, dest.

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yay, charm questions.

    1) Ok guys, tell me what the downside is in the charm "Iron Skin Concentration". Because as I'm reading it if I have a Stamina+Resistance of 9 I could pretty much shrug off any blow made by someone with an essence of 3 or less for just two motes, and even if I somehow botch it I still get 4A/8L/8B soak.

    2) I know a flurry is a single 'action', but will all of the strikes within a flurry count as a single 'attack'? Specifically can I perform a flurry of 2+ attacks while using the charm 'Hungry Tiger Strike' and double the successes on all of the hits for just 1mote? Or would I need to spend motes equal to the number of strikes in the flurry?

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    no, each attack within a flurry is a separate attack.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    also, something to note: Lion is probably going to seek out different styles of martial arts as a means of gaining power. Since he is an Eclipse caste, any charm short of Sidereal Martial arts is open to him

    basically finding some way to learn a few of the Immaculate styles would be pretty awesome

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Last Son wrote: »
    Yay, charm questions.

    1) Ok guys, tell me what the downside is in the charm "Iron Skin Concentration". Because as I'm reading it if I have a Stamina+Resistance of 9 I could pretty much shrug off any blow made by someone with an essence of 3 or less for just two motes, and even if I somehow botch it I still get 4A/8L/8B soak.

    2) I know a flurry is a single 'action', but will all of the strikes within a flurry count as a single 'attack'? Specifically can I perform a flurry of 2+ attacks while using the charm 'Hungry Tiger Strike' and double the successes on all of the hits for just 1mote? Or would I need to spend motes equal to the number of strikes in the flurry?

    1)There really is no downside to Iron Skin Concentration. It's a decent defensive charm, just like a lot of dodge and some melee charms, its purpose is to give characters a "No you don't button." in regards to attacks and damage.

    2) Arcanis got it right.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Iron Skin is decent, but it's pretty much a poor man's Perfect Defense.

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  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Speaking of perfect defenses... I'm updating my character sheet for the flaw for SSE (oops).

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Ok, I've decided on a new character. Zenaar, Zenith caste, villager turned war-priest.

    Background part one(Shorter this time, I swear!)
    Spoiler:

    Destroyah, would you permit me to use a custom Hearthstone? I wanted to use an Earth-stone but the only ones in the book are level 4/5. I was thinking of the following.

    Gem of Flint(●● or ●●●)
    This hearthstone is a rough black sphere. While he bears the stone the character's skin hardens, adopting the characteristics of Flint. The wielder gains +2L/+4B soak, this has no effect on aggravated damage.

    Also, are we using the stats from the Armorium or the rulebook?

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  • BrodyBrody Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So I haven't actually played any Exalted, but I do have a little bit of experience with WW systems, and I intend on picking up books of this series(no idea which ones I should get). As far as what I would most likely roll, prolly Solar or Abyssal knight type character. Light, Medium, or no armor. Nodachi with most of my "Exaltedness" going into being super-fast strong with it if that is the way it works.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    That sounds fine Brody, for books, Exalted 2nd edition will be sufficient if you want to play a Solar (or an abyssal for that matter, just give the charms spooky names instead of heroic). There is an Abyssal sourcebook in the works but it hasn't been released yet. (I think April of this year)

    Last Son, for a Manse 2 stone it will grant: +1L/+2B. A Manse 3 will give +2L/+3B. I think that's more in line with the power of the standard stones in the book.

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  • GraycoinGraycoin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    This isn't going to start really soon, is it?

    I really really want to play a Sidereal especially since it seems like there's plenty of Solars for the main cast, but trying to absorb all the rules involved in playing them makes my brain vomit like its been on a roller coaster one too many times. Its slow going.

  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The game will start when all characters are finished (or mostly so), just so long as you don't take more then a month, I wouldn't worry about it. :wink:

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    me, on the other hand, I am much less forgiving; if you don't finish soon I will dispatch ninja teams

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  • BrodyBrody Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, with the likely hood of WoW being down all day, and having my wisdom teeth removed in about an hour, I'll make a hearty attempt at grabbing at least the core rule-book and start throwing my character together.

    To make things faster once I do get the book though, is my character idea sound as far as game mechanics are concerned. If any of you have seen Fate/Stay Night, I'm thinking of a character kind of like Assassin, or at least being able to use Tsubame Gaeshi type attacks.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The idea's fine.

    As long as the effects are the same as the charms in the book, you can describe it however you wish. Matter of fact, Awesome descriptions are encourged, The game has rules for giving bonus dice for good description. 'S called Stunting.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    also, if I haven't made it clear: if you have any character questions/need help, I'm on AIM or MSN and always willing to chit-chat and give help

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Full background has been completed.
    Spoiler:
    Appearance
    Spoiler:

    Also, are we using the stats from the Armorium or the rulebook?

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    go ahead and use Armorium stats.

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  • CrovaxanCrovaxan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    so i just started reading Arcanis's thread and it was like epic awesomeness. So i'd be intrested in joining if u still have a spot. I'm gonna need a lot of help makin a char tho, like horseshoe level help. Perhaps more.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Lots folks abound to help y' out, Crovaxan.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • CrovaxanCrovaxan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    alright so assuming i have a spot, anyone that can walk me through char creation through pm or aim/msn?

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong but so far, it looks like we've got 7 people with characters/espressed interest in this game.

    Arcanis- Lion
    Last Son- Zenaar
    Papillon- Deadly Shadow
    Graycoin- (Sidereal Martial Artist)
    Brody- (Abyssal)
    Crovaxan- ?
    lonelyahava- ?

    Ok, Seven is the absolute max I'm willing to work with. So any other people are going to have to be turned away.
    I'm sorry :(

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Crovaxan wrote: »
    alright so assuming i have a spot, anyone that can walk me through char creation through pm or aim/msn?

    You can reach me on AIM as Aluminium2518, if you want.

    @Brody: There's no recent Abyssals book, so it's a lot of making stuff up and guesswork. Probably wouldn't recommend it if you're unfamiliar with the system.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm making a Full Moon Caste Lunar, ranged specialist, with a backup specialty in Medicine. From the East.

    Will be doing her sheet tomorrow night when I get home from work.

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  • BrodyBrody Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Thats prolly a good idea. I'd be closer to getting my character done, but getting sick after having your wisdom teeth removed is kinda counter to any sort of productiveness.

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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User
    edited March 2008
    I'm considering rolling up a character if you need a final slot.

    Perhaps the most twinky dawn you've ever seen. I'm talking a sword longer than your body.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Heh, Having your wisdom teath removed is no picnic. I had all four of mine taken out, the actual operation was no big deal, I was asleep for that. The next three days weren't fun though. They hurt and I couldn't eat any good food.

    Plutonium, This's kinda full up. I should probably change the title :/
    Sorry about that.

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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User
    edited March 2008
    Fine by me, I was just wondering - Let the others have the fun, I'm already in a game.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    OK.. name is Cikala Pahi. Will come up with a 'deed name' for her shortly.... just, wanted to have that documented.... somewhere

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whoever wrote the Armorium seems to have a dislike of slow and devastating weapons, blunt weapons in particular. Its making it hard to find a weapon I like the style of but isn't overshadowed by something like the Poleklave.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Last Son wrote: »
    Whoever wrote the Armorium seems to have a dislike of slow and devastating weapons, blunt weapons in particular. Its making it hard to find a weapon I like the style of but isn't overshadowed by something like the Poleklave.

    Just use the Grand Goremaul from the corebook, then.

    Statistically it is the best weapon.

    Also, it is a GIANT HAMMER. Which is cool.

  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    see that's what the armorium seeks to avoid

    the goremaul is ridiculous, above and beyond any other weapon

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    See, that's why I dislike the Armorium. Sure, if people aren't looking to twink it balances things out, but for a lot of things it just nerfs them so that nobody wants to use them.

    It's a giant giant warhammer made out of the magical materials. Why shouldn't it be statistically just plain better than a Switchklave?

    Hell, just compare it to the Grand Daiklave in the Armorium. It does bashing damage equal to the LETHAL damage of the GD, has lower accuracy and a lower rate. Yet they're supposedly the same artifact rating? It doesn't even succeed at producing a balanced set of weapons, since nobody would want to take a Goremaul with those stats.

    What the Armorium does succeed at is providing Artifact versions of a lot of the mundane weapons that don't have them, and I heartily approve of that. For example, my Butterfly Fans in the other PbP game. They're statted from the Armorium, there's no stats for them in any of the written materials, and I enjoy the benefits.

    IMO, the Grand Daiklave from the corebook is significantly better than the Grand Goremaul, simple because of the Rate and extra Hearthstone settings. Sure, you get an extra 4L damage with the Goremaul, but you can only attack once per round as opposed to twice. Unless you're using Extra Action charms you can't make more attacks in a round than the Rate of your weapon. And having three Hearthstones as opposed to one? That makes a huge difference, especially when you consider how many weapon-buffing Hearthstones there are.

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    see that's what the armorium seeks to avoid

    the goremaul is ridiculous, above and beyond any other weapon

    Aside from the lethal damage(Seriously, what?), it compares pretty well to the other ●●● weapons. Against a Grand Daiklave it trades +4damage for -1accuracy, -1Defence, and -1Rate, the Daiklave has the option of being slightly weaker but more accurate/defensive or flurrying and doing more damage for less accuracy/defense. If you switched the damage to Bashing and increased the speed to 6 it would be quite comparable to the Grimcleaver and Grimscythe(which are for some reason mechanically identical) as well. But as it stands the Armorium's Grand Goremaul is worse in every single way than the book's regular Goremaul.

    It isn't even that great compared against other Armorium weapons(which as a whole seem weaker than the book's). Against the Grand Daiklave it gains Piercing in exchange for -1accuracy, bashing instead of lethal, no bonus minimum damage, and -1rate. Against the poleklave it gets Piercing and 2damage in exchange for -2accuracy, bashing instead of lethal, no bonus minimum damage, -2defence, -2rate, and +1atunement cost.

    Balancing the weapons is a fine goal but the Armorium isn't balanced, its simply imbalanced in different directions.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    that's because the Goremaul in the core is absurd

    think about it, who will be the people using it? the twinkiest dawn. when you get those extra action charms, the stuff just comes out as being absurd, and the 'hearthstone' drawback can be supplanted by bracers, which orichalcum provides 2 more damage dice. I mean it's not my decision in the end, but when someone takes the grand goremaul, everyone else really feels the difference. and I mean, if you really want the power, the Grand Goremace is from what I can see identical to the old goremaul except switching from lethal to bashing, one less minimum damage, and a tiny bit slower. considering the multiple ways to switch from bashing to lethal and getting extra action charms and speedy attacks, I fail to see how the argument holds water

    also, rainfall, the armorium grand daiklave has 2 settings, just like the goremaul and goremace. so again, I fail to see what the issue is aside from wanting lethal damage on a blunt impact weapon

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    if you really want the power, the Grand Goremace is from what I can see identical to the old goremaul except switching from lethal to bashing, one less minimum damage, and a tiny bit slower. considering the multiple ways to switch from bashing to lethal and getting extra action charms and speedy attacks, I fail to see how the argument holds water

    And -3accuracy and its not Piercing.
    also, rainfall, the armorium grand daiklave has 2 settings, just like the goremaul and goremace. so again, I fail to see what the issue is aside from wanting lethal damage on a blunt impact weapon.

    I don't really care about the lethal damage, and in fact I'm surprised that the GGM doing lethal wasn't a typo and switched to bashing damage in the errata. Hammers should do bashing. What I care about is the lack of an accurate, slow, and heavy weapon; preferably that IS bashing. Stick it with a high speed and a defense penalty, thats fine and makes sense.

    There are only two Rate:1 weapons that have a positive accuracy modifier. First is the Grand Dire Spear which ain't all that great damage-wise and doesn't fit the concept. Second is the Ringklave, which is a combat hula-hoop.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    that's the thing though. you're swinging around a cadillac on a stick. Blunt weapons aren't meant for precision blows, they're for hitting the other guy and breaking every bone in his body. you're not going to remove the guy's ear with your hammer.

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Screw it, concept wins. Zenaar carries a giant golden hammer with which he beats people to death.
    Character sheet below.
    Spoiler:

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So, I'm undecided, I basically have two concepts rolling around in my head. there's Lion, who I posted on the first page, and this gal. I'd like to see what you think, I've never actually played a sword-specialist before, and I've got a neat motivation I think (and an extra-special hate for dragon-blooded)!

    she's a bit of a combat monster, but then again so is Lion. I like kung-fu, obviously. if you guys like Lisandra more I'll write out her background and put Lion back into my folder, but it's pretty much one of those I-can-play-either scenarios

    so whaddya guys think of:
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    Background
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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    If this is going to be a combat-heavy campaign would Followers be an ok idea, or would they simply be killed the first time we fought something nasty? I'm kinda drifting back toward my previous Twilight idea, tweaked to be less subtle social master and more 'Stop hurting innocents right now or I will shatter your armies, cast down your house into ruin, and cause your name to be synonymies with shame for the next hundred years'.

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