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[OOC] Exalted: Saga of the Rivers

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm making a Full Moon Caste Lunar, ranged specialist, with a backup specialty in Medicine. From the East.

    Will be doing her sheet tomorrow night when I get home from work.

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  • BrodyBrody SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Thats prolly a good idea. I'd be closer to getting my character done, but getting sick after having your wisdom teeth removed is kinda counter to any sort of productiveness.

  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm considering rolling up a character if you need a final slot.

    Perhaps the most twinky dawn you've ever seen. I'm talking a sword longer than your body.

  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Heh, Having your wisdom teath removed is no picnic. I had all four of mine taken out, the actual operation was no big deal, I was asleep for that. The next three days weren't fun though. They hurt and I couldn't eat any good food.

    Plutonium, This's kinda full up. I should probably change the title :/
    Sorry about that.

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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Fine by me, I was just wondering - Let the others have the fun, I'm already in a game.

  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    OK.. name is Cikala Pahi. Will come up with a 'deed name' for her shortly.... just, wanted to have that documented.... somewhere

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whoever wrote the Armorium seems to have a dislike of slow and devastating weapons, blunt weapons in particular. Its making it hard to find a weapon I like the style of but isn't overshadowed by something like the Poleklave.

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Last Son wrote: »
    Whoever wrote the Armorium seems to have a dislike of slow and devastating weapons, blunt weapons in particular. Its making it hard to find a weapon I like the style of but isn't overshadowed by something like the Poleklave.

    Just use the Grand Goremaul from the corebook, then.

    Statistically it is the best weapon.

    Also, it is a GIANT HAMMER. Which is cool.

  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    see that's what the armorium seeks to avoid

    the goremaul is ridiculous, above and beyond any other weapon

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    See, that's why I dislike the Armorium. Sure, if people aren't looking to twink it balances things out, but for a lot of things it just nerfs them so that nobody wants to use them.

    It's a giant giant warhammer made out of the magical materials. Why shouldn't it be statistically just plain better than a Switchklave?

    Hell, just compare it to the Grand Daiklave in the Armorium. It does bashing damage equal to the LETHAL damage of the GD, has lower accuracy and a lower rate. Yet they're supposedly the same artifact rating? It doesn't even succeed at producing a balanced set of weapons, since nobody would want to take a Goremaul with those stats.

    What the Armorium does succeed at is providing Artifact versions of a lot of the mundane weapons that don't have them, and I heartily approve of that. For example, my Butterfly Fans in the other PbP game. They're statted from the Armorium, there's no stats for them in any of the written materials, and I enjoy the benefits.

    IMO, the Grand Daiklave from the corebook is significantly better than the Grand Goremaul, simple because of the Rate and extra Hearthstone settings. Sure, you get an extra 4L damage with the Goremaul, but you can only attack once per round as opposed to twice. Unless you're using Extra Action charms you can't make more attacks in a round than the Rate of your weapon. And having three Hearthstones as opposed to one? That makes a huge difference, especially when you consider how many weapon-buffing Hearthstones there are.

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    see that's what the armorium seeks to avoid

    the goremaul is ridiculous, above and beyond any other weapon

    Aside from the lethal damage(Seriously, what?), it compares pretty well to the other ●●● weapons. Against a Grand Daiklave it trades +4damage for -1accuracy, -1Defence, and -1Rate, the Daiklave has the option of being slightly weaker but more accurate/defensive or flurrying and doing more damage for less accuracy/defense. If you switched the damage to Bashing and increased the speed to 6 it would be quite comparable to the Grimcleaver and Grimscythe(which are for some reason mechanically identical) as well. But as it stands the Armorium's Grand Goremaul is worse in every single way than the book's regular Goremaul.

    It isn't even that great compared against other Armorium weapons(which as a whole seem weaker than the book's). Against the Grand Daiklave it gains Piercing in exchange for -1accuracy, bashing instead of lethal, no bonus minimum damage, and -1rate. Against the poleklave it gets Piercing and 2damage in exchange for -2accuracy, bashing instead of lethal, no bonus minimum damage, -2defence, -2rate, and +1atunement cost.

    Balancing the weapons is a fine goal but the Armorium isn't balanced, its simply imbalanced in different directions.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    that's because the Goremaul in the core is absurd

    think about it, who will be the people using it? the twinkiest dawn. when you get those extra action charms, the stuff just comes out as being absurd, and the 'hearthstone' drawback can be supplanted by bracers, which orichalcum provides 2 more damage dice. I mean it's not my decision in the end, but when someone takes the grand goremaul, everyone else really feels the difference. and I mean, if you really want the power, the Grand Goremace is from what I can see identical to the old goremaul except switching from lethal to bashing, one less minimum damage, and a tiny bit slower. considering the multiple ways to switch from bashing to lethal and getting extra action charms and speedy attacks, I fail to see how the argument holds water

    also, rainfall, the armorium grand daiklave has 2 settings, just like the goremaul and goremace. so again, I fail to see what the issue is aside from wanting lethal damage on a blunt impact weapon

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    if you really want the power, the Grand Goremace is from what I can see identical to the old goremaul except switching from lethal to bashing, one less minimum damage, and a tiny bit slower. considering the multiple ways to switch from bashing to lethal and getting extra action charms and speedy attacks, I fail to see how the argument holds water

    And -3accuracy and its not Piercing.
    also, rainfall, the armorium grand daiklave has 2 settings, just like the goremaul and goremace. so again, I fail to see what the issue is aside from wanting lethal damage on a blunt impact weapon.

    I don't really care about the lethal damage, and in fact I'm surprised that the GGM doing lethal wasn't a typo and switched to bashing damage in the errata. Hammers should do bashing. What I care about is the lack of an accurate, slow, and heavy weapon; preferably that IS bashing. Stick it with a high speed and a defense penalty, thats fine and makes sense.

    There are only two Rate:1 weapons that have a positive accuracy modifier. First is the Grand Dire Spear which ain't all that great damage-wise and doesn't fit the concept. Second is the Ringklave, which is a combat hula-hoop.

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    that's the thing though. you're swinging around a cadillac on a stick. Blunt weapons aren't meant for precision blows, they're for hitting the other guy and breaking every bone in his body. you're not going to remove the guy's ear with your hammer.

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Screw it, concept wins. Zenaar carries a giant golden hammer with which he beats people to death.
    Character sheet below.
    Spoiler:

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  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So, I'm undecided, I basically have two concepts rolling around in my head. there's Lion, who I posted on the first page, and this gal. I'd like to see what you think, I've never actually played a sword-specialist before, and I've got a neat motivation I think (and an extra-special hate for dragon-blooded)!

    she's a bit of a combat monster, but then again so is Lion. I like kung-fu, obviously. if you guys like Lisandra more I'll write out her background and put Lion back into my folder, but it's pretty much one of those I-can-play-either scenarios

    so whaddya guys think of:
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    Background
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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    If this is going to be a combat-heavy campaign would Followers be an ok idea, or would they simply be killed the first time we fought something nasty? I'm kinda drifting back toward my previous Twilight idea, tweaked to be less subtle social master and more 'Stop hurting innocents right now or I will shatter your armies, cast down your house into ruin, and cause your name to be synonymies with shame for the next hundred years'.

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Followers would be fine, I won't kill them off indiscriminately. If they actively participate in combat, however, all bets are off.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    apparently forums are going down around 10pm EDT, and I'm not going to have my sheet done in 10 mins. if they're back up before I go to bed, I'll post it then.

    But I'll give ya a few more tidbits.

    Cikala Pahi, with a kick-ass porcupine Beast Form, blue hair, and a Fox familiar.


    chew on that.

    and then yell at me

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    apparently forums are going down around 10pm EDT, and I'm not going to have my sheet done in 10 mins. if they're back up before I go to bed, I'll post it then.

    But I'll give ya a few more tidbits.

    Cikala Pahi, with a kick-ass porcupine Beast Form, blue hair, and a Fox familiar.


    chew on that.

    and then yell at me

    Oh yes. OH YES.

    Just out of curiosity, does she move very very quickly? Could one say that 'speed is her game'?

  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    That is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. So stupid in fact, that it goes off the scale and wraps around to awesome. :P

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    :^: Ahava

    Also since downtime did not occur allow me to ask a question. Is a flurry considered one action or multiple actions taken at once? Specifically if I use Fivefold-Bulwark Stance and perform a flurry of 3 attacks, do I get -0DV(Each attack reduced to -0dv from the Stance) or -2DV(-3 from three attacks, reduced by -1 from the Stance)?

    Also, does the 'Multiple-Action' penalty apply to DV, or just the attack-roll?

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The DV penalty from a Flurry is the highest penalty out of all the actions you perform. It counts as one Action, but not one action, if you get what I mean.

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Rainfall wrote: »
    The DV penalty from a Flurry is the highest penalty out of all the actions you perform. It counts as one Action, but not one action, if you get what I mean.

    I... don't. In fact that contradicts what the book says. It says that each action adds its own defense penalty, and the final modification is the sum of them all. I just don't know if modifiers like Five-Bulwark Stance are applied to each individual action or to the sum.

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whoah, I'm completely wrong.

    And I know why, too! I was thinking Speed, not DV penalties.

    Anyways, "Five-Fold Bulwark Stance reduces the penalty for every action in the flurry independently."

    Which I had to look up and really has nothing to do with my previous statement.

  • GraycoinGraycoin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    making a character too fast to be seen by the naked eye

    I approve of this whole-heartedly. :D Sorry I haven't really posted much yet, been amazingly busy for being on spring break, that and lazy. Rainfall, I'ma try and catch you on IM sometime soon here, need to try and get all this crazy resplendent astrology kung fu James Bond stuff straight.

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Whoah, I'm completely wrong.

    And I know why, too! I was thinking Speed, not DV penalties.

    Anyways, "Five-Fold Bulwark Stance reduces the penalty for every action in the flurry independently."

    Which I had to look up and really has nothing to do with my previous statement.

    Ahha, thank you.

    Also I should really learn to not write in the middle of the night. I wrote a background for my Twlight Scholar, then when I reread it I realized that not only did it not match the character sheet I made it also varied quite significantly from what I had wanted for her background. Plus it contradicted several parts of the established lore. /facepalm

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  • destroyah87destroyah87 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Ok, I see the question has been answered. I was going to post last night but the forums went down as I was writing.
    Last Son wrote: »
    Also since downtime did not occur allow me to ask a question.

    spoke too soon I think you did. :wink:

    Also, just in case you're still confused. The multiple-action penalty applies only to the rolls made in the flurry, not to DV.

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  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    destroyah, if I have the conviction flaw on my perfect defense, and my motivation is "Eliminate corruption in the Realm", would running away to Great Forks be considered "contrary to my motivation".

    i.e. do I need to change my motivation or use a different flaw if I want to be able to use my perfect defense?

  • BrodyBrody SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So yeah, I'm still attempting to crawl through all this, but if everyone gets their stuff together before I am ready, go ahead and start without me.

  • CrovaxanCrovaxan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I also am struggling with this. INNs is helpin me a thorugh it but not sure when i can finish makin the char :( im up to getting my charms and background, then i just need to distribute BPs

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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm totally up for helping anyone who needs help if you need help.

    Just bug me on AIM at Raing3l.

    Seriously, I'm helpful!

  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Rainfall wrote: »
    I'm totally up for helping anyone who needs help if you need help.

    Just bug me on AIM at Raing3l.

    Seriously, I'm helpful!

    It's a trap!

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  • BrodyBrody SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I bet it is.

    What is our cast so far? Like, character style?

  • CrovaxanCrovaxan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I got a night caste assissin that uses claws like Zhang He in DW5 or Sima Yi in DW6.

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Brody wrote: »
    I bet it is.

    What is our cast so far? Like, character style?

    Papillon is a night cast Archer
    I'm going to be a Twilight whom kicks ass with a quarterstaff, also something of a healer.
    Lonelyahava is Sonic the Porcupine.
    Arcanis is going to be either a Martial artist diplomat or a Whirling dervish of swords.
    Graycoin is a Sidereal Martial Artist.
    Crovaxan is a night caste assassin that uses claws like Zhang He in DW5 or Sima Yi in DW6.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    wow. I'm surprised nobody yelled at me for Cikala. *L* Very sweet.

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  • BrodyBrody SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Suddenly I really want to roll something that melts face on but a whim, with the idea of returning to that one City, the one in the Scavanger lands that the Realm owns to burn it to the ground...

  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Brody wrote: »
    Suddenly I really want to roll something that melts face on but a whim, with the idea of returning to that one City, the one in the Scavanger lands that the Realm owns to burn it to the ground...

    You could make a sorcerer with the intent to eventually get Solar Circle spells and cast Rain of Doom. That causes wood to burst into flame, metal to dissolve, and mortals to die horrible melting deaths. It would take awhile to get that powerful since you'd probably need to be essence 5 to have the motes required to cast the spell then make it around the city in less than an hour, not to mention the entire garrison pouring out of the city to kill you.

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  • BrodyBrody SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, obviously it would take a while to get that powerful. And then, maybe I'll move onto the Blessed Isle itself.... Hehe... hehehe..... hahahahahahahaha......

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