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Joss Whedon is a racist misogynist that rapes his wife, now with 10% more Shakespeare
Kagera
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Ah the internet, where the most interesting blogs are a google search away.
http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html
Basically this particular blogger takes issue with Joss Whedon's portrayal of women in Firefly, and seems confounded by the idea people see him as a feminist, and has declared Joss Whedon is the worst man in the universe.
Here are some choice quotes:
And some responses to comments made by others:
I haven't seen such hilarious non-satirical statements since the last State of the Union speech personally, but maybe I'm wrong and Joss Whedon really does rape his wife and kill kittens or whatever, what do you think?
http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html
Basically this particular blogger takes issue with Joss Whedon's portrayal of women in Firefly, and seems confounded by the idea people see him as a feminist, and has declared Joss Whedon is the worst man in the universe.
Here are some choice quotes:
The next scene we meet Kaylee, the ship’s mechanic. <- Lookee, lookee, feminist empowerment. In this scene Mal and Jayne are stowing away the cargo they just stole. Kaylee is chatting to them, happily. Jayne asks Mal to get Kaylee to stop being so cheerful. Mal replies, “Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.†Yes, that is an exact quote, “Sometimes you just wanna DUCT TAPE HER MOUTH and DUMP HER IN THE HOLD FOR A MONTH.†Kaylee responds by grinning and giving Mal a kiss on the cheek and saying, “I love my Captain.â€
What the fuck is this feminist man trying to say about women here? A black woman calling a white man ‘sir’. A white male captain who abuses and silences his female crew, with no consequences. The women are HAPPY to be abused. They enjoy it. What does this say about women, Joss? What does this say about you? Do you tell your wife to shut up? Do you threaten to duct tape her mouth? Lock her in the bedroom? Is this funny to you, Joss? Because it sure as fuck ain’t funny to me.
So, Joss Whedon refers to rapist/fuckers who buy women as sex, as ‘eager, inexperienced but pleasingly shaped’ who ‘make love’ to women in prostitution. Obviously, ‘love’ to men like Joss Whedon, requires female powerlessness, force and coercion. Women in prostitution enjoy the experience of being bought for sex. They feel ‘motherly’ towards the men who have just treated them as property and bought them as sex.
Her husband, Wash, talking about how he likes to watch her bathe. Let me just say now that I have never personally known of a healthy relationship between a white man and a woman of colour. I have known a black woman whose white husband would strangle and bash her while her young children watched. My white grandfather liked black women because they were ‘exotic’, and he did not, could not treat women, especially women of colour, like human beings. I grew up watching my great aunts, my aunty and my mother all treated like shit by their white husbands, the men they loved. So you will forgive me for believing that the character, Wash, is a rapist and an abuser, particularly considering that he treats Zoe like an object and possession.
I can assure you that this is just the beginning of my rant on Firefly. There is so much more disturbing stuff later in the series. In particular, an episode called Our Mrs. Reynolds, another episode written by Joss, which completely demonises women as well as pornifying male violence against us.
And some responses to comments made by others:
Andrea Dworkin and John Stoltenberg. That would be one that I would call a 'happy, healthy, positive, mutually respectful, mutually loving, heterosexual relationship'. Umm... I'm still thinking. I don't think I could name any others.
I feel awful for Joss Whedon's wife. From what I've read about him and the interviews I've watched, I'm fairly certain that he rapes his wife and abuses her in various other ways. I honestly can't think of anything worse than living with a man like Joss who thinks of women like the way he portrays in his tv shows. How awful. The comment about the money was meant to be about how I personally could see no benefit from being with a man like Joss OTHER than money. Joss uses and abuses her. Probably rapes her and thinks of women as whores etc, etc. Obviously, Ms Whedon has her own reasons for staying. Fear, patriarchal concepts of love, etc. But I would argue that she gives everything and gets nothing. Money is the only concrete thing that she could possibly gain. But as I said money is worth nothing compared with self-integrity, self-esteem, love (sister/lesbian/gynaffectionate love) etc. So she still loses out. Poor woman.
I haven't seen such hilarious non-satirical statements since the last State of the Union speech personally, but maybe I'm wrong and Joss Whedon really does rape his wife and kill kittens or whatever, what do you think?
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He only keeps River on board to abuse mentally handicapped women.
I think it's a welcome change. "God hates fags" does start to get old.
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that quote
In case you wanted to know, men talked 458 times in the first episode compared to 175 for the women.
So...yeah.
Well there is only 4 females on the crew, one of which was barely in the first episode let alone speaking.
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By the way, she's running for president.
That's nothing to how much Wash would get abused by Zoe if he tried to get his husbandly-abusin' on.
Somebody please come watch me bathe until I feel better.
*stabs eyes*
Edit: Okay wow just go to the part where she is talking about how Mal likes to assert himself as the alpha male and likes to punch people randomly (Simon). D:
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I've only seen the show a few times, so I'm not really at liberty to comment very much. But damn guys, you have different opinions than someone, we get it.
everytime i see this kind of thing pop up on the internets, be it from an insane anti-men uberfeminist or a conspiracy theorist or a blame the white/black/hispanic man for all of society's ills person, i wonder to myself what in the fuck happened in this person's life to make them think that way. no one just all of a sudden wakes up and decides that dworkin's relationship with her little self hating toadie of an assistant is the only healthy relationship between a man and a woman they've ever heard of.
either no one ever told this person to stop being a giant fuckhead when they were growing up, or something happened to plant that seed. maybe someone should ask her where all of this started for her.
No this woman (I'm sorry womyn) is from Australia and only 26 years old.
Seriously, man. Some dude must have dumped her or something and she was a little bitch and couldn't deal with it.
When there's only eight main characters? Not really.
Oh, and it's wymyn.
Then why are the lines so dominated by men?
I know. I'm of the opinion that I'm not a rapist. Go figure.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as to whether or not you're a rapist.
That's what all the rapists say.
Its just really bad how she takes all sort of scenes out of context. For example when she goes off on how the guys like to punch and cause violence randomly using the example of how Mal punches Simon, she totally forgot to add that the reason he is so mad at Simon is because Kaylee (who is a girl dur dur dur) got shot due to a circumstance that Simon caused.
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oh for fuck's sake. she openly states in her blog that she hates men. ALL men. i'm sorry if i don't think that's a rational opinion formed by careful thought and consideration.
I wonder how she feels about super fancy gay dudes.
She only counted the lines from the first episode, I would like to see how it would be like if she counted the whole show or other episodes. The first episode River is introduced late, and can't even form coherent sentences yet, and all the side characters except for one were male.
If you did it for the Heart of Gold episode for you would most likely have female lines outnumbering the male lines.
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I think dumb people on the internet are a dime a dozen.
Okay, so it should be a 4:3 ratio then, not a 4:1 - especially if it's the first episode where you want to introduce the main characters and the thrust of the show. Also, all the side characters are male. Chances are that if you did this for most episodes you would find similar data. Male gaze, etc.
Not all the side characters are male, but a lot are yea. But with all the side characters in the show its odd how you are connecting the ratio of lines to just the main characters, sure its easier that way but doesnt make it right.
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Cause actions speak louder then words.
Oh wait.
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God i hope so
No. But four to one, when I am introducing the show and its characters? Sounds like shitty writing, to me.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
I'm clinging to this hope.
Not at all. Just because she has a tremendously radical stance doesn't make her ultimate thesis wrong - that Firefly is a subtle Ideological Manifestation of the misogynistic west.
I never knew how good a show's writing was depended on the number of lines.
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