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Jack the Phapper [Phalla] Signups!

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    sign me up please yes.

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  • SpeedySwafSpeedySwaf Registered User
    edited April 2008
    !sign up

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  • Manning'sEquationManning'sEquation Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Just a reminder, the signups close soon.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
  • cheezcheez Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oh hey, I just figured I'd pop over to D&D to see what the Phalla status was here. Looks like I'm just in time!

    Stab up!

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    fapfapfapfapfap

    er

    wait..no.

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    fapfapfapfapfap

    er

    wait..no.

    Who said for you to stop?

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
  • Minor SecondMinor Second Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fuck it

    Sign me up!

  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    <gasp> Minor Second is my new favorite person.

    The name, the avatar, the description, the location.... <3 <3 <3

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre @PixelateJake on TwitterRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Music geeks > comic book geeks

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    ShutupShutupShutup

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2008
    JOIN THIS MAN'S GAME

    HE HAS A GODDAMN GUN

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  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
  • giltanisgiltanis Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    So we start tomorrow come rain or shine?

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  • duallainduallain Registered User
    edited April 2008
    As long as it is totally cool that I'm 100% new at this Phalla thing I:

    !signup

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    !sign up

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited April 2008
  • SerpentSerpent Sometimes Vancouver, BC, sometimes Brisbane, QLDRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I havne't played in a bit..

    !sign up


    ... too late?

  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    no, not too late

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2008
    robothero wrote: »
    !sign up
    totally rippin' you

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  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    So, one more and we get info today start tomorrow or all that stuff tomorrow?

  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Big post will be up tomorrow evening

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    !signup

    this has me interested

    No reveals?

    Can I ask for more details here. No revealing who you are in PMs as well? Just game thread? No revealing what side you are on (Evil/good)? and even if there is backstory to such a rule existing :3

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Gumpy wrote: »
    !signup

    this has me interested

    No reveals?

    Can I ask for more details here. No revealing who you are in PMs as well? Just game thread? No revealing what side you are on (Evil/good)? and even if there is backstory to such a rule existing :3
    My last phalla, people revealed what faction they were, which was kind of against the point of the godsdamned fucking game. You aren't supposed to publicly say who you are, because 1) No one will believe you if your innocent anyways, and 2) that's not how the game is to be played. You can create cadres and whatnot, just nothing in the thread.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    !signup

    this has me interested

    No reveals?

    Can I ask for more details here. No revealing who you are in PMs as well? Just game thread? No revealing what side you are on (Evil/good)? and even if there is backstory to such a rule existing :3
    My last phalla, people revealed what faction they were, which was kind of against the point of the godsdamned fucking game. You aren't supposed to publicly say who you are, because 1) No one will believe you if your innocent anyways, and 2) that's not how the game is to be played. You can create cadres and whatnot, just nothing in the thread.

    While I understand your frustration, isn't deception part of the game? I mean, there's an inherent risk to revealing your role. If you say you're the seer, and you actually are the seer, then the bad guys will kill you (or at least try). If you're a bad guy, and you get targeted by the seer, how else can you defend yourself without trying to claim a different role to the thread?

    I'm not sure I understand how we can expect there to be any "gaming" if people aren't allowed to claim roles for themselves, whether true or false.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    !signup

    this has me interested

    No reveals?

    Can I ask for more details here. No revealing who you are in PMs as well? Just game thread? No revealing what side you are on (Evil/good)? and even if there is backstory to such a rule existing :3
    My last phalla, people revealed what faction they were, which was kind of against the point of the godsdamned fucking game. You aren't supposed to publicly say who you are, because 1) No one will believe you if your innocent anyways, and 2) that's not how the game is to be played. You can create cadres and whatnot, just nothing in the thread.

    While I understand your frustration, isn't deception part of the game? I mean, there's an inherent risk to revealing your role. If you say you're the seer, and you actually are the seer, then the bad guys will kill you (or at least try). If you're a bad guy, and you get targeted by the seer, how else can you defend yourself without trying to claim a different role to the thread?

    I'm not sure I understand how we can expect there to be any "gaming" if people aren't allowed to claim roles for themselves, whether true or false.
    I'm just bitter because people fucked up my game. Granted, I hadn't ironed out all the bugs, but it was essentially the most ambitious Phalla to date, I had never run one, and between my newbishness and screwups, assholes breaking the game didn't help. (they weren't strategic reveals, they were more "Well, I'm this faction, so what the fuck does that mean?", when if they read the flavor text, they would have gotten it.)

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    !signup

    this has me interested

    No reveals?

    Can I ask for more details here. No revealing who you are in PMs as well? Just game thread? No revealing what side you are on (Evil/good)? and even if there is backstory to such a rule existing :3
    My last phalla, people revealed what faction they were, which was kind of against the point of the godsdamned fucking game. You aren't supposed to publicly say who you are, because 1) No one will believe you if your innocent anyways, and 2) that's not how the game is to be played. You can create cadres and whatnot, just nothing in the thread.

    While I understand your frustration, isn't deception part of the game? I mean, there's an inherent risk to revealing your role. If you say you're the seer, and you actually are the seer, then the bad guys will kill you (or at least try). If you're a bad guy, and you get targeted by the seer, how else can you defend yourself without trying to claim a different role to the thread?

    I'm not sure I understand how we can expect there to be any "gaming" if people aren't allowed to claim roles for themselves, whether true or false.
    I'm just bitter because people fucked up my game. Granted, I hadn't ironed out all the bugs, but it was essentially the most ambitious Phalla to date, I had never run one, and between my newbishness and screwups, assholes breaking the game didn't help. (they weren't strategic reveals, they were more "Well, I'm this faction, so what the fuck does that mean?", when if they read the flavor text, they would have gotten it.)

    Ok, so can you clarify for us what exactly constitutes an inappropriate reveal (and perhaps add that to the OP)? For instance, if I get seered as Jack the Ripper, how can I reasonably be expected to defend myself?

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    !vote Romantic Undead

    Just to be safe. :P

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    !vote Romantic Undead

    Just to be safe. :P

    So mean.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2008
    I think the general rule for when a reveal doesn't break the game is that it's only appropriate when 1) your role has become public knowledge, and 2) you are in the process of being voted out of the game.

    When that happens, if you're the Jack the Ripper, you're pretty much expected to start talking in morose period language and threatening people with vengeance from beyond the grave. However, even in that situation, it's absolutely verboten to turn around and say, "Well, I'm going to die anyway, might as well sell out my teammates!"

    If you've been essentially revealed and are about to die to some public mechanic, then I think it's fine to reveal your own identity ... just so long as you're already on death row. This is just my own take on it though, and Fencing is free to overrule or disagree. <3

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    LOL. I just had a funny vision of how this game could end up going:

    Round 1:

    Me: RU is a good guy
    RU: Skid is a good guy!
    Gumpy: Chamberlain is a bad guy!
    Chamberlain: Gumpy is a bad guy!
    ....
    Hey guys, why is fencingsax's account deleted?

    :P

    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

    wrath God fear traitor evil
  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    I think the general rule for when a reveal doesn't break the game is that it's only appropriate when 1) your role has become public knowledge, and 2) you are in the process of being voted out of the game.

    When that happens, if you're the Jack the Ripper, you're pretty much expected to start talking in morose period language and threatening people with vengeance from beyond the grave. However, even in that situation, it's absolutely verboten to turn around and say, "Well, I'm going to die anyway, might as well sell out my teammates!"

    If you've been essentially revealed and are about to die to some public mechanic, then I think it's fine to reveal your own identity ... just so long as you're already on death row. This is just my own take on it though, and Fencing is free to overrule or disagree. <3

    Selling out your teamates is absolutely poor form and I would certainly expect that kind of behaviour to be curttailed. That being said, part of the game is for the bad guys to sow confusion and discord so that the village turns on itself, and that, sometimes, can be accomplished by bad guys claiming to be something they're not, in order to get a hapless villager to trust them or what have you.

    Mafia games are all about deception and misdirection. If you take away that ability (i.e. you can't make any type of claim outside of your vote) then you're setting yourself up for nothing more than a long series of guessing games, taking out the strategy.

    Sorry if I'm overanalysing this, I just want to make sure I understand what Sax's intentions are, is all. I mean, if I start to speculate about what kind of roles exist and start making spurious claims about the roles of other people, am I playing against the "spirit of the game"?

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2008
    I dun think it's anything that strategic. The last game sort of really was just a trainwreck. At the first sign of accusation, people would say, "Wait, but my PM says I'm <BLANK>. What does that even mean?"

    We lost about six days of activity in a row because, for whatever strange reason, people just revealed themselves as baddies. Like -- there wasn't any strategic reasoning. Just people that didn't quite understand the rules, and instead of taking it to PMs with Fencing, posted in the thread that they were an evil stonecutter and whom they were cut in with. e_e

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  • tuxkamentuxkamen Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You can 'reveal' whatever you want about yourself. The question is whether doing so will hurt your team or not. If it does, you shouldn't.

    Good: 'Well, okay, I'm so-and-so, but I can protect people (may or may not be true)! Don't vote me off!'

    Bad: 'So, who else is so-and-so?' 'Me.' 'I am!' 'If being a so-and-so is wrong, I don't wanna be right.'
    (And then the team is annihilated.)


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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    I dun think it's anything that strategic. The last game sort of really was just a trainwreck. At the first sign of accusation, people would say, "Wait, but my PM says I'm <BLANK>. What does that even mean?"

    We lost about six days of activity in a row because, for whatever strange reason, people just revealed themselves as baddies. Like -- there wasn't any strategic reasoning. Just people that didn't quite understand the rules, and instead of taking it to PMs with Fencing, posted in the thread that they were an evil stonecutter and whom they were cut in with. e_e

    Well I wasn't there for that, so that sounds just ridiculous. I think the rule should be amended to say "no discussion of your role PM in the thread. If you have any questions, PM the GM directly."

    So basically what you're saying is that there were people in the last game who were just poor sports. Banning that kind of behaviour I can certainly get behind.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2008
    haha it's funny because "if being a so-and-so is wrong, I don't want to be right" was something actually uttered last game

    and then people threw a shit-fit when that person was, expectedly, voted off

    WHAT THE FULMINATE, PEOPLE

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre @PixelateJake on TwitterRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Tux, you need to pop over to CF more often.

    <3

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