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  • Just Some DudeJust Some Dude Registered User
    edited February 2009
    Sportmanship in EVE is all about cleating the shortstop in the knee when you slide into second base, then porking his girl under the bleachers while they take him to the hospital.

    Cog in the machine Cog Herder
  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Sportmanship in EVE is all about cleating the shortstop in the knee when you slide into second base, then porking his girl under the bleachers while they take him to the hospital.


    Than sending him a get well card while he is in the hospital of your dick.

  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Sportmanship in EVE is all about cleating the shortstop in the knee when you slide into second base, then porking his girl under the bleachers while they take him to the hospital.

    This is the best analogy ever.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Guys, just ignore TekDragon. Paying attention just encourages him.

    What system are people mobilizing out of currently?

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  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    So how many millions of ISK has Kenny lost today.
    -Well, this morning we killed about 20% of all remaining kenny POSes in Delve; the total cost of those has been quoted as about 40-50b (or about the same as a Titan hull).

    -We also killed a shipyard which the intelligence guys say was building a mothership (12-15b).

    -The POSes we killed will cause us to capture two outposts (about 20b each if you want to count them).

    -We captured two moons with very valuable resources (I'm not knowledgeable on such things, probably several hundred million to a billion per day)

    That's about it for today because kenny hasn't fielded a fleet for us to kill, because we won't let them undock from their staging station.

  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    So how many millions of ISK has Kenny lost today.
    -Well, this morning we killed about 20% of all remaining kenny POSes in Delve; the total cost of those has been quoted as about 40-50b (or about the same as a Titan hull).

    -We also killed a shipyard which the intelligence guys say was building a mothership (12-15b).

    -The POSes we killed will cause us to capture two outposts (about 20b each if you want to count them).

    -We captured two moons with very valuable resources (I'm not knowledgeable on such things, probably several hundred million to a billion per day)

    That's about it for today because kenny hasn't fielded a fleet for us to kill, because we won't let them undock from their staging station.

    :lol::lol:


    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

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  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    So how many millions of ISK has Kenny lost today.
    -Well, this morning we killed about 20% of all remaining kenny POSes in Delve; the total cost of those has been quoted as about 40-50b (or about the same as a Titan hull).

    -We also killed a shipyard which the intelligence guys say was building a mothership (12-15b).

    -The POSes we killed will cause us to capture two outposts (about 20b each if you want to count them).

    -We captured two moons with very valuable resources (I'm not knowledgeable on such things, probably several hundred million to a billion per day)

    That's about it for today because kenny hasn't fielded a fleet for us to kill, because we won't let them undock from their staging station.

    :lol::lol:


    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?
    Yeah, and it's kinda dull camping them so we've started holding newbie frigate tournaments outside the station.

  • JaninJanin Registered User
    edited February 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I love you guys. <3

    EVE is the best game to watch ever.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Janin wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

    holy shit

    aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  • StormgaleStormgale Registered User
    edited February 2009
    Janin wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

    holy shit

    aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Can someone explain to the Noob here why that is Hilarious :P

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I caught this at SHC. The guy was trying to gank newbies in lowsec who happened to be PL cyno alts.

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    Stormgale wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

    holy shit

    aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Can someone explain to the Noob here why that is Hilarious :P

    Those bubbles keep ships from warping. Notice that they are covering that entire station.

  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Stormgale wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    So basically you have the entire alliance locked down?

    holy shit

    aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Can someone explain to the Noob here why that is Hilarious :P
    Those big spherical things are warp disruption bubbles surrounding the station inside which kenny has docked their whole fleet. To enter or leave the station kenny would have to blow those up, which is something to which our big-ass fleet (sitting right outside) would take exception. Until kenny can get a shitload of people online at once to break the blockade, we've essentially grounded their fleet. This has been going on for over a day now, during which our capitals have been jumping around the region blowing stuff up with impunity.

  • GalagaGalaxianGalagaGalaxian Registered User
    edited February 2009
    Thats awesome.

    I'd love to see their forums right now.

    Remember the compliments you receive, forget the insults; if you succeed in doing this, tell me how.
  • LanglyLangly Up, and to the RightRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ok i am a little out of the political news, is kenny the new name for bob's alliance, now that they lost it? who's kenny?

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    ok i am a little out of the political news, is kenny the new name for bob's alliance, now that they lost it? who's kenny?

    KenZoku, a.k.a. Kenny.

  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Barrakketh wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ok i am a little out of the political news, is kenny the new name for bob's alliance, now that they lost it? who's kenny?

    KenZoku, a.k.a. Kenny.

    "Anime name".

    i am perpetual, i make the country clean
  • marty_0001marty_0001 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    What does "anime is cartoons" mean?

    I really need to read less CAOD. It provides a few chuckles, but it does severely rot my brain.

    Holy shit that bubble image is great.

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    actually i'm pretty sure this isn't how the drama went down. Smoske was a guy who played eve and got killed by being run over by a truck (on the autobahn? I could be making that up). There were of course jokes like that on the internal boards, but then it got onto the Eve official boards. The name escapes me, but someone made a sig that had the goonswarm truck image loading people up and then running over a stick figure.aOnce it got onto the official forums people made a huge stir and then screen shots were posted of Remedial (the corp leader) and FNLN making fun of the guy in local chat (or something along those lines). This caused a generous amount of "legitimate" Goonswarm hate and gave the general forums people reason to admire BoB and deride Goons.

    I am near 100% sure that happened the way I described. Goons didn't bring it onto the official boards, they couldn't, there was a CAOD ban on at the time. "It got onto the Eve official boards" by way of BoB.

  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    marty_0001 wrote: »
    What does "anime is cartoons" mean?

    Goons trolling Ex-BoB's new Japanese name.

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    TekDragon wrote: »
    Your buddy is right. It's ridiculous that the game can be pretty much ruined for hundreds of players because one guy gets delusions of grandeur and switches sides. What's even more ridiculous is all the people who say "It's PERFECTLY LEGIT because CCP said it's cool!".

    But then again we all know something is different about EvE. Zero Punctuation said it best. EvE is for the antisocial nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to the mainstream crowd. Trying to argue sportsmanship, common decency, and respect is like speaking Greek. Just peeking in on the COAD forum occasionally reaffirms this 110%.
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.

    I think what EvE shows is that any game with more or less open PvP is quickly going to become a playground for the self-styled "Harcore" players whose idea of showing their skills is ganking and griefing weaker or less-experienced players. That (among other things) is what drove me out of Age of Conan and to WAR- given human nature, for a PvP game to have wide appeal, the game needs to be based around factions and PvP goals need to be structured, rather than freeform.

    Aetian Jupiter - 41 Gunslinger - The Old Republic
    Rigorous Scholarship

  • Istvaan ShogaatsuIstvaan Shogaatsu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Modern Man wrote:
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.
    There's a way not to worry: simply butcher the someone before they can gank you. Enjoying Eve requires violence of movement, and as long as you're hurting people, they can't really hurt you back. This is why I love Eve so much.

    I get to hurt everyone!

  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Modern Man wrote:
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.
    There's a way not to worry: simply butcher the someone before they can gank you. Enjoying Eve requires violence of movement, and as long as you're hurting people, they can't really hurt you back. This is why I love Eve so much.

    I get to hurt everyone!
    I'm actually surprised they made the game work. The level of organization that you need to keep together alliances to the extent that people do in EvE is rare. EvE seems to attract a certain segment of the gaming community- it doesn't seem all that friendly to more casual players. Like I said, they found their niche.

    Aetian Jupiter - 41 Gunslinger - The Old Republic
    Rigorous Scholarship

  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Modern Man wrote:
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.
    There's a way not to worry: simply butcher the someone before they can gank you. Enjoying Eve requires violence of movement, and as long as you're hurting people, they can't really hurt you back. This is why I love Eve so much.

    I get to hurt everyone!

    and he would know as he is the devil.


    But seriously, no other game has the depth of EVE, from its political metagaming aspect, massive economy, massive amounts of skills, equipment, ships yadda yadda yadda, it really is mind boggling when you get into it.

    The best part of the game is having your actions actually matter, and the consequences actually exist. Lots of people cant handle that.

  • LanglyLangly Up, and to the RightRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Barrakketh wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ok i am a little out of the political news, is kenny the new name for bob's alliance, now that they lost it? who's kenny?

    KenZoku, a.k.a. Kenny.

    ok yeah i knew it was something japanese but i forgot what

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  • AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Is there a link to the latest sovereignty/territory map? Last i checked (about a week ago) Kenny occupied the entire delve region once more (it was all blue or something), but according to some info I skimmed over at the SA forums the map only looked at sovereignty, and not the level of sov (so they were at lv1 but it's at lv4 when sov matters). For all of the laughter and "fleet lockdown" I'm reading it's pretty odd to see Kenny 'owning' the map.

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  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Airan wrote: »
    Is there a link to the latest sovereignty/territory map? Last i checked (about a week ago) Kenny occupied the entire delve region once more (it was all blue or something), but according to some info I skimmed over at the SA forums the map only looked at sovereignty, and not the level of sov (so they were at lv1 but it's at lv4 when sov matters). For all of the laughter and "fleet lockdown" I'm reading it's pretty odd to see Kenny 'owning' the map.


    It takes a week for a newly anchored tower to claim sov, we have majority in a large amount of systems currently in delve, but that won't show up on map since they are currently not a week old. Once those 7 days are up you will see a flip in sov. Kenny was able to quickly can sov 1 since they already had towers online for more than 7 days when we disbanded BOB.

    So just wait half a week, you should see a big difference in sov.

  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Airan wrote: »
    Is there a link to the latest sovereignty/territory map? Last i checked (about a week ago) Kenny occupied the entire delve region once more (it was all blue or something), but according to some info I skimmed over at the SA forums the map only looked at sovereignty, and not the level of sov (so they were at lv1 but it's at lv4 when sov matters). For all of the laughter and "fleet lockdown" I'm reading it's pretty odd to see Kenny 'owning' the map.
    You get varying benefits with different levels of sov. The former BoB corps piled into a new alliance which caused their towers to start claiming sov again, but the sov level reset to one. This is important because BoB spent literally hundreds of billions on fortifying Delve. The catch is that they require higher sov to function, so now their space is highly vulnerable whereas it was previously nigh-invincible. Imagine if the US overnight lost all of its early-warning military systems as well as all transportation infrastructure.

    Additionally, the map wont show us owning stations until a week later because of technical stuff involving sov mechanics. In reality we've taken two of the main four constellations with another likely to fall today/tomorrow. We're also about to burn down Kenny's capitol, which isn't too important strategically but is big from a symbolic/morale perspective.

  • hazywaterhazywater Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Airan wrote: »
    Is there a link to the latest sovereignty/territory map? Last i checked (about a week ago) Kenny occupied the entire delve region once more (it was all blue or something), but according to some info I skimmed over at the SA forums the map only looked at sovereignty, and not the level of sov (so they were at lv1 but it's at lv4 when sov matters). For all of the laughter and "fleet lockdown" I'm reading it's pretty odd to see Kenny 'owning' the map.

    autopilot a rookie ship to pr- and see whose camp kills you.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Is the blockade being held still.

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  • runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    Is the blockade being held still.
    Yup. Kenny called a big breakout op this morning but we reinforced the camp and held them in.

  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So, along with fighting Kenny, are you guys doing good at keeping other alliances from invading? I know several were gunning for Delve territory as well.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So, along with fighting Kenny, are you guys doing good at keeping other alliances from invading? I know several were gunning for Delve territory as well.

    Anybody that would want to invade Delve is busy taking the completely abandoned territory.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Modern Man wrote: »
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.

    I think what EvE shows is that any game with more or less open PvP is quickly going to become a playground for the self-styled "Harcore" players whose idea of showing their skills is ganking and griefing weaker or less-experienced players. That (among other things) is what drove me out of Age of Conan and to WAR- given human nature, for a PvP game to have wide appeal, the game needs to be based around factions and PvP goals need to be structured, rather than freeform.

    The structure in EvE's PvP is provided by the players, not some artificial faction system that is in place simply to keep people incapable of handling a real PvP system happy.

    One of the reasons I quit WAR was that it was too structured, almost no real risk or reason to be out there PvPing. I got tired of that kind of PvP years ago.

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  • DigitoDigito Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    What I wonder... what's gonna happen now?

    I mean, it seems like fighting BoB has been the big focus of things for... shit, since before I first heard of EVE Online. Still thinking of coming back, even though I've likely lost access to everything I once owned and I'll be flat broke.

    It costs how much ISK again to get into the whole "neverending pile of tackling frigates" thing?

  • EtheaEthea Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Digito wrote: »
    What I wonder... what's gonna happen now?

    I mean, it seems like fighting BoB has been the big focus of things for... shit, since before I first heard of EVE Online. Still thinking of coming back, even though I've likely lost access to everything I once owned and I'll be flat broke.

    It costs how much ISK again to get into the whole "neverending pile of tackling frigates" thing?


    Less than the cost of a single 30d time card.

  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Modern Man wrote: »
    I think what EvE shows is that any game with more or less open PvP is quickly going to become a playground for the self-styled "Harcore" players whose idea of showing their skills is ganking and griefing weaker or less-experienced players. That (among other things) is what drove me out of Age of Conan and to WAR- given human nature, for a PvP game to have wide appeal, the game needs to be based around factions and PvP goals need to be structured, rather than freeform.

    Amusingly enough, what we are seeing currently is the 'hardcore elite' players getting steamrolled by a bunch of Goons, of all people.

    If you took a WoW PvP server, stripped out all the instances, made it so there were no safe areas, and then gave incentives to guilds who took control of areas, you'd see the exact same kind of stuff.

    I mean, fuck, as it is in WoW you got people twinking, or bragging about their 3v3 rank and how hardcore they are.. It's just in Eve accomplishing something actually means something, where as WoW it's all talk.

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  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ethea wrote: »
    Digito wrote: »
    What I wonder... what's gonna happen now?

    I mean, it seems like fighting BoB has been the big focus of things for... shit, since before I first heard of EVE Online. Still thinking of coming back, even though I've likely lost access to everything I once owned and I'll be flat broke.

    It costs how much ISK again to get into the whole "neverending pile of tackling frigates" thing?


    Less than the cost of a single 30d time card.

    Those don't even exist anymore!

  • DeadlySherpaDeadlySherpa Registered User
    edited February 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Modern Man wrote: »
    I've looked into EvE, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It seems like it's a game based around making other peoples' lives miserable. I don't really see the fun in playing a game where you constantly have to worry about having someone gank you for no real reason. The game has found its niche, so to each their own, I suppose.

    I think what EvE shows is that any game with more or less open PvP is quickly going to become a playground for the self-styled "Harcore" players whose idea of showing their skills is ganking and griefing weaker or less-experienced players. That (among other things) is what drove me out of Age of Conan and to WAR- given human nature, for a PvP game to have wide appeal, the game needs to be based around factions and PvP goals need to be structured, rather than freeform.

    The structure in EvE's PvP is provided by the players, not some artificial faction system that is in place simply to keep people incapable of handling a real PvP system happy.

    One of the reasons I quit WAR was that it was too structured, almost no real risk or reason to be out there PvPing. I got tired of that kind of PvP years ago.

    The thing is that EvE has rules, guidelines to follow. People only lose things valuable to them in the game if they break those guidelines; ie. they do something stupid. You might get away with doing a dumb thing a couple of times, but do it enough and someone will take advantage of that dumb move. While there are a few exceptions to this (usually when someone finds value other than isk to attack you- see the goonswarm jihad org.) in general you only get ganked/griefed if you make a mistake. You have yourself to blame if you undock from a station in a hauler with wardecs in local and you get blown up. Or jump through hostile systems unscouted and get popped by a gatecamp. EVE in my experience has always been unforgiving and harsh but very rarely has it been unfair.

    On the flip side of risking a lot in the game, the rewards are equally as great. You get a lot of satisfaction when you succeed because you made the right moves, took advantage of an opportunity, provided a needed service that other players required, or filled an important role in a battle. It gives a sense of purpose that other MMO's and regular games lack. To me it makes the game interesting because it gives my "wins" meaning.

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I am thinking of re-subbing to Eve again, my character had some 30 million SP but I got bored and had quit...I just can't decide, the news of BS's in low-sec (I am/was a pirate) brings joy to my heart and the hope of new prey.

    Anyone got any input on how the speed changes effected piracy?

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