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Also can we please not turn this into a rape thread?
Not really. I mean in case you hadn't noticed, the fact that it's illegal to possess alcohol under 21 years of age doesn't exactly stop any freshmen from getting tanked.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
That would be a shining example of a de jure ban.
Make it an expellable offense to be caught DUI, drinking on campus, and so on.
Same here. Actually, the general quality of the housing was a large part of why I hated the barracks as well.
I think you're missing out on what a silly and dumb idea is. By definition, they don't work out very often.
Couldn't they have gone after him for sexual harassment and normal assault if they wanted to keep their record? Hell, couldn't they have just put him on the "hurling team" and had all the football players beat the crap out of him?
You may, perhaps, be forgetting that colleges and universities are businesses. The severity required to effect a real ban, considering the sort of policies that are common now, would be a tremendous deterrent to enrollment.
Especially when one considers what percentage of students have already been getting drunk in highschool, and have no plans to stop.
Neal Stephenson
You endorse kicking people out of school for drinking because rape? And here I thought the temperance movement went out with flappers.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
Is mandatory "you must stay in our dorms" even legal in the USA? I don't know, I suppose as an outsider I have this conception of American's being big on the whole personal liberties thing, and this seems like a huge infringement on those liberties.
Also, while I may not agree with Mcdermott's tone, his point is pretty valid IMO. The folks, who in response to my bringing up the issue said they thought dorms being mandatory were a good idea seemed to be basically basing that on "it worked fine for me, so requiring everyone to do it is an awesome idea" which isn't exactly a compelling argument. A compelling argument would be something showing that dorms are such an overwhelmingly positive influence that making them mandatory is reasonable.
I think dorms have some good points, and can benefit a lot of people. For other people, like the person I was in my first year of university, dorms were extremely bad for me.
I did a cursory google search and I couldn't find any instances of dorms (or as their often called here, residence) being mandatory in Canadian universities. All that came up was a bunch of stuff about mandatory meal plans for people who live in dorms.
Well, you aren't forced to go to the school so I don't see how it infringes on civil liberties. By attending, you are agreeing to follow the school's rules.
It's legal for private institutions - fuck, they can pretty much do whatever they please.
Not sure what the situation is for state schools. I'd guess that they'd be more flexible.
Where I am, everyone has to live in the dorms as first years, and mostly in all first year dorms. I think it's nice way to get to know your class and bond with them and make friends. After that, people are free to move off campus... though we are guaranteed housing if we choose to for all 4 years, which the vast majority of people choose to do (given that we are in Manhattan and unlike other places, it might not actually be cheaper to move off campus unless you went ass far away).
Some other schools are really based on, in a large part, the residential aspect. Others, not so much. Choice is a nice thing, no?
It was mandatory for my freshman year of college in a public university.
So was Physics, but I tested out.
The only way to test out of living in a dorm double is to have crippling allergies or a wheelchair, m i rite?
Hmm, yeah I suppose the private institution thing kind of gets them around that.
My coach said it was a bad idea to catch that pass. I fractured the bones in my leg 27 times, but I got the touch down! The world is built on bad ideas, my boy!
No, the world is built on a goddamn turtle's back.
To the best of my knowledge there are no mandatory residence higher education institutions in this country. The entire idea strikes me as something between asinine and astoundingly retarded.
Co-ed dorm rooms I've got no problem with.
Not to mention that college is a lot less fun when it's run by anti-booze nazis.
I never said the flappers were anti-booze, I said that they went out of style. And banning alcohol didn't give anyone any social or legal power to escape punchy spouses or parents, who may or may not actually even be drunk.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
You'd think punchy spouses would be punchier without their sweet sweet alcohol fix.
Or, you know, you never met an alcoholic.
So wait, we're blaming domestic violence on alcohol now?
Alcohol abuse is a major contributing factor to domestic violence.
But I doubt you knew that, seeing as how you enjoy spouting off announcing your glaring ignorance near constantly.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
Love you too pookie.
The thing with alcohol is that it can take a perfectly okay guy or gal and turn them into something not so okay. Whether it be a wife beater or a Jezebel.
Now for some reason college kids love to binge drink, 100 people all together drinking their minds off will equate to something happening. Fights, rape, 100 men orgy, or whatever. Alcohol does that to people.
Of course not everybody who goes to these party are there to binge drink. But it only takes 1 guy to rape a girl.
You're giving alcohol more control over people than it has. The social convention of getting drunk and acting like a jackass is the phenomenon you should be raging against, not alcohol itself.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers