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Racing

stawkstawk Registered User
For aslong as i can remember i have had the drive/dream to race cars, and now that i have turned 20 i feel that if i dont start doing something to complete this dream i never will. So i have a few questions for everyone here.

A little background, i grew up watching nascar, until i found rally racing and discovered how much better right and left turns are. I live in illinois (just outside of chicago) and the only local track that offers track days is a dirt oval. Ive done the research on what is required for Rally America racing, as well as having several family members that would more then likely be my pit crew for free. My time frame for having my first race is hopefully within 1.5 years

1. What is the cheapest way to start racing (legally)?
2. Any advice on locating sponsors?
3. Depending upon the answer to #1 whats a good cheap car to get?

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    The cheapest way to start for you is probably Autocross. It's cheap, you can race in just about any kind of car and you won't need sponsors. Look up the SCCA for more information.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User
    Karting is a universally accepted entrance point to the world of racing. Karts are cheap (under $1k and you can buy a decent frame and engine). Get used to the competition/endurance there, plus it's fun!

    From there, you could move to more "professional" venues. The Skip Barber School of Racing isn't a bad place to start, but if that's out of the question, you could try multiple forms of racing besides carting: drag, open wheel (need entry to this field), autocross (for hard road skill building)

    Now, for rallying, you're in a bit of a crunch. There aren't many places in North America alone where you can "practice" rallying. Overseas you're in a better condition, but for here, look for local (read: regional) races and either talk to or enter those.

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  • fuelishfuelish Registered User
    To start try rally cross. You don't need a cage or supression system. You can buy a beater to play with and run with as little prep as airing the tires to 45psi to keep them from debeading, removing all the loos stuff from the car, and passing a basic safety check. It is fun and is a lot less $$ than Rally.
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    If you really want to rally look for a used car. It is almost always cheaper to start with a prepped car that needs updating thatn start from sratch. Used cars often come a with lots of spares as well.
    Look here:http://www.rallyclassified.com/
    For a beginner, start with a two wheel drive. Better learning curve, cheaper to fix. I would reccomend a second gen VW GTi, there are probably a couple on that classifieds. Subarus are also a good choice if you want to go awd,

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  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    You said you're into nascar, so I assume you're from the southeast?

    If so, there's a lot of dirt track racing in every decent sized city thats a good way to get into the world of racing.

    I can't believe no one has mentioned the SCCA (sports car club of america) yet. They have all kinds of racing, from rally, to grand prix, to time trial cone courses for beginners. The dues are cheap and it's very well run.

    You're not going to find a sponsor unless you have rich friends or family, until you start winning some races.

    A good entry car for scca track racing is an eclipse/talon all wheel drive turbo, or a miata.

    If you get into dirt track racing, a monte carlo is the way to go.

    For drag racing, a 5.0 mustang fox body

    For rally, a Subaru Imprezza is a good choice.

    edit: Just a warning though, as I used to drag race

    1) If you do find sponsors and start earning a paycheck, almost every dime of it is going to go to your increased insurance costs.

    2) Until you hit the big time, you're paying for your car, and tires alone, which will need to be changed every two races at the minimum, will cost roughly $300 to $500 dollars, so I hope you've got a big bankroll.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    You said you're into nascar, so I assume you're from the southeast?

    If so, there's a lot of dirt track racing in every decent sized city thats a good way to get into the world of racing.

    I can't believe no one has mentioned the SCCA (sports car club of america) yet. They have all kinds of racing, from rally, to grand prix, to time trial cone courses for beginners. The dues are cheap and it's very well run.

    But... he says he's in Illinois near Chicago. Also, the first response mentions the SCCA :)

    Also, I'm not even sure why you'd assume he's from the southeast. I'm originally from the northeast and there's a huge Nascar following.

  • CooterTKECooterTKE Registered User
    look into local rally cross and start doing that for fun. Rally is expensive to get into and you will probably need to learn as a co-driver first.

  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    Daenris wrote: »
    You said you're into nascar, so I assume you're from the southeast?

    If so, there's a lot of dirt track racing in every decent sized city thats a good way to get into the world of racing.

    I can't believe no one has mentioned the SCCA (sports car club of america) yet. They have all kinds of racing, from rally, to grand prix, to time trial cone courses for beginners. The dues are cheap and it's very well run.

    But... he says he's in Illinois near Chicago. Also, the first response mentions the SCCA :)

    Also, I'm not even sure why you'd assume he's from the southeast. I'm originally from the northeast and there's a huge Nascar following.

    really? that's cool man, I didn't know the following was that big up there, and I totally missed the SCCA comment.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    Autocrossing is a blast and it's probably the cheapest form of racing to enter, so long as you already have a car. With drag racing or rally cross, you're more likely to damage your vehicle. I haven't done rally cross myself, but plenty of friends do.

    As for what car to get, you'll have to decide what form and class of racing you'll be doing first.

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  • wmelonwmelon Registered User regular
    I'd also recommend the Skip Barber racing school. The classes are amazing. http://www.skipbarber.com

  • stawkstawk Registered User
    Thanks guys im going to start looking into the auto and rally cross events

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