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[BALANCE ON] Team Fortress 2: Pyro Nerf Applied

PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Games and Technology

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What is Team Fortress 2? It is a team-based first-person shooter that offers nine distinct classes to play as. Rather than simple deathmatch, TF2 requires players to work together to achieve objectives such as point control or objective theft. Work together, or fail.

Unlike many shooters, TF2 streamlines the process, making it very easy for new players to learn the ropes yet remain compelling to the hardened veterans. The game also features a very stylized look that sets it apart from the competition. If the movies The Incredibles and Austin Powers had a violently awesome lovechild, it'd be Team Fortress 2.

So read on, and join in on the fun, and make sure to whine about critical hits!


How to obtain Team Fortress 2

Team Fortress 2 has two purchasing options. First is the Orange Box package for $39.99. That includes new puzzle game Portal and the complete Half-Life 2 Saga released so far (if you already have HL2 and Episode 1, you can give them away! Use this thread for that). If you are just itching for Team Fortress 2, the game is available alone on Steam for $19.99. [strike]Also rumor has it that EA will be splitting up the Orange Box for retail at some point in the future.[/strike] The "Black Box" package, originally slated to contain HL2:EP2, TF2, and Portal, has been canned from retail release. Buyers of new ATI/AMD GPUs may get this as a pack-in bonus, however, so shop around if you're planning to upgrade!


PC or Console?

TF2 comes in chocolate PC flavor or mint Console (X-Box 360/PS3). Which version is better? I’ll personally say PC, but there’s no clear cut choice. If you prefer analog-stick controls, don’t want to have to deal with crashes or hardware issues and prefer the online services of Microsoft/Sony…the console might be for you.

But the PC has customization. You won’t get the plethora of custom maps on a console nor can you use custom models. Furthermore, the vast majority of PA plays on PC. Plus the PC version actually gets updates.

Regardless of your choice, this is a PC thread. Use this thread to satiate your sick desire to play an TF2 on a console.

Penny Arcade Servers

Job's server
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jonxp's server
tf2.finalmeasure.com
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PMAvers's server (custom maps)
208.167.246.56:27015
Download pack for custom maps
(Unzip to Steam\steamapps\<your account>\team fortress 2\tf\maps)
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Penny Arcade & Cake Army TF2 - Demitri's Chicago Server
8.12.20.52:27015
Map List
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Job and jonxp’s servers are (mostly) straight-forward games using official Valve maps. The House of Non-Conformity sticks with custom maps. The Cake Army / Penny Arcade joint server has some interesting characters as well as a mix of both stock and a bunch of close-to-valve-quality customs. But each server offers hours of glee.

All of the PA servers listed here are laid back and not going to harass you for sucking (well, maybe a little).
You might hear about “scrims” in this thread, which is where our PA folk play in competitive games. If you are interested in that sort of thing, just speak up and one of our competitive players will help you out. So remember, don't be a dick!

Password for all PA servers: wang

Meet the Team

Team Fortress 2 has nine classes are grouped into three categories. THEY ARE MOSTLY FOR GIVING NEW PLAYERS A HINT AT WHAT EACH CLASS DOES AND HAVE NO IMPACT ON BALANCE AND SUCH.

When in doubt, TF2 Wiki is here with more specifics, including damage stats for all weapons.

Defense
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Support
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Offense
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Features


Look on the Bright Side:
If your "round" is a personal best (most damage inflicted, kills made, time alive), the game will let you know when you die.

Capture the Moment:
Kodak invites you take a screen of your murderer.

Taunts!:
You can do a variety of animations. They depend on your class and current weapon. The Medic, for example, will play his Bonesaw like a violin. You temporarily leave first-person view when this is done, and you can’t cancel it. So use it only when feeling especially confident. The Pyro's secondary-weapon taunt is now an instant kill if it connects, and you also get an achievement for this.

Critical Hits: Some shots do more damage. These shots, when fired, will make a crackling noise and a satisfying “CRITICAL HIT” will be above your target (if they land). If you are racking up kills, your crit rate will temporarily increase to around 20% or so. Note that some weapons have higher crit chances. Backstabs with the Spy’s knife are always crits. The Medic’s Bonesaw tends to have a higher-than-normal crit rate.

Recent Updates!

Unlockable Weapons: The Medic and Pyro classes each have three new weapons that can be unlocked by obtaining a certain number of class-specific achievements.

Medic unlockables:
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Pyro unlockables:
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New Gametype: Payload!

Gold Rush is an escort style map in which the BLU team will have to accompany a mining cart laden with a large bomb as it rolls over hostile terrain. The RED team's job is to prevent the cart from progressing to the check points of the map. The cart stops when any member of the opposing team gets in range. This idea is based off the ever popular "Hunted" map, but without the human input for the cart (although that mode is also in talks of being added to the game). The map has 3 stages, with the final stage rewarding a successful assault by asploding the entire map into giblets.


Other Fun Stuff

Download to see detailed TF2 stats
Team Fortress 2 Merchandise!
Penny-Arcade's TF2 Shirt
Official TF2 Statistics
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Screenshots!

You can find them in Program Files\Steam\steamapps\<account name>\team fortress 2\tf\screenshots .
Type bind f5 jpeg into your console to take screenshots as .jpg instead of .tga. Use Paint.NET to convert .tga files to another format.

If screenshots aren't enough, theres always Random Engy's guide to capturing HD movies for TF2

Finding good screenshots is like a game of its own!
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jonxp wrote:
To recap: I'm making 100 of them.

When they come in I will be sending one off to each person who has donated to my server as of an e-mail I sent this weekend. After that I will be handing them out to you guys at PAX. Then the remainder I will try to find some cool way to give out, but most likely will be on a first-come first-serve basis via e-mail.
Pyro Balance Patch Released July 1st
Team Fortress 2 Update Released
July 1, 2008, 2:00 pm - Jason Ruymen - Product Update

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2

* Fixed backburner's flame critical hits not being recalculated after collision. This meant that it would check if the target was looking away once and after that the flame could score a critical hit again even if the orientation changed
* Added back some damage falloff to the Pyro's flamethrower. Not nearly as extreme as it was before the Pyro class pack
* Fixed bug that caused Demomen to take a small amount of extra damage from their own grenades and fly farther using them
* Fixed spy getting stuck in players after removing his disguise
* Fixed spy stabbing and being able to go invisible instantly
* Fixed spy disguised as enemy medic being able to spam voice commands
* Fixed buffed health not decaying properly after being healed by a dispenser
* Selectable menus can now be operated with number keys even if they are not bound to slot1, slot2, etc.
* Removed the remaining speed adjustments for carrying intelligence (a couple of game modes still reduced your maxspeed)
* Fixed a buildable item placement bug where the object would not rotate after the user tried to place in an invalid location
The next class to be tweaked will be the Heavy

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  • Lando_GriffinLando_Griffin Registered User
    edited June 2008
    How does one go about finding out the passwords for the PA servers? I am pretty terrible, but I would rather get beaten by people who aren't total jerks.

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  • AsiinaAsiina Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If only the password was in the OP and was the only differently coloured text in the whole thing.

    If only
    Spoiler:

  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    How does one go about finding out the passwords for the PA servers? I am pretty terrible, but I would rather get beaten by people who aren't total jerks.

    wang.

  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    How does one go about finding out the passwords for the PA servers? I am pretty terrible, but I would rather get beaten by people who aren't total jerks.

    Tis in the OP below the servers: wang

  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    How does one go about finding out the passwords for the PA servers? I am pretty terrible, but I would rather get beaten by people who aren't total jerks.

    Shit. That's the only type of people we've got.

    MOBA DOTA.
  • TracerBulletTracerBullet Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The passwords are in the OP. For PA servers all the passwords are Wang

    Spoiler:
  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Asiina wrote: »
    Dear Flippy

    BAT BAT BAT

    <3 Asi

    I thought about titling it [QQ ON] and making it a comment about how crit flames are a great way to get achievements.

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  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    <3 @ headshotting cloaked spies

    They really need to stop cloaking a fraction of a second after they're in full view of me, and do it a second beforehand. It's amusing when I cause a corpse to appear out of nowhere.

  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
  • Fig-DFig-D Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Aegis wrote: »
    <3 @ headshotting cloaked spies

    My favorite is when I didn't even know they were there. Like, I'm spy checking someone who I thought left the area by aiming at their head but when I pull the trigger a corpse just pops up outta no where. It's fantastic.

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  • DualEdgeDualEdge Registered User
    edited June 2008
    The best is when you run out of spawn cloaked beside a heavy for a shield and the sniper misses and hits you.

  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    DualEdge wrote: »
    The best is when you run out of spawn cloaked beside a heavy for a shield and the sniper misses and hits you.

    Or when you try to sneak past a sniper cloaked as he aims for somebody else, but you step in front of his gun right when he fires.

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  • DualEdgeDualEdge Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Or when you sneak in front one of your snipers as the enemy shoots him.

  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Or when you're playing after the update, and some lame pyro is just shooting his flare gun because he thinks it looks pretty neat, and nabs you, calling attention to where you are, thus being shot in the head.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I thought the backburner was the first weapon. Now I'm pissed because I have to get the next achievement.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Icemopper wrote: »
    DualEdge wrote: »
    The best is when you run out of spawn cloaked beside a heavy for a shield and the sniper misses and hits you.

    Or when you try to sneak past a sniper cloaked as he aims for somebody else, but you step in front of his gun right when he fires.

    Flipper got a headshot on me this way. :x

    Also, in response to Jesuits and his teleporter advice, I often get on the teleporter and watch the respawn area for people who need it more than me. But often what happens is right when I see a heavy and try to step off, I get teleported. Perhaps I'll try watching the scoreboard for who's respawning. Great advice!

    Edit: Also, seems like spies not having that teleporter glowing effect is an excellent reason for why spies should take teleporters. That's one more person without glowing rings to give away your teleporter's position.

    Also, blu dot.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Edcrab wrote:
    I'm still 75 in demoman and 50 in heavy, solder and sniper

    Everything else has 30 or less...

    Really? I think of you as a Medic or Pyro.

    You're crazy. I'm practically never a medic because I don't have the patience for it.

    Also, the quote button should remain active on locked threads, dammit.

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  • Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User
    edited June 2008
    So pyro madness has mostly died down, right? Last few times I played there was only like 2, 3 pyros?

    The challenge as being spy among the flames was fun for a little bit, but it got painful. Also, I want to practice force pushing projectiles. I want to make soldiers cry. But I'm gonna be crying for quite awhile until then.

  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    So pyro madness has mostly died down, right? Last few times I played there was only like 2, 3 pyros?
    That would be the class limit in action, most likely.
    The challenge as being spy among the flames was fun for a little bit, but it got painful. Also, I want to practice force pushing projectiles. I want to make soldiers cry. But I'm gonna be crying for quite awhile until then.
    Get on a pub and laugh your ass off. Soldiers will stand still and fire rockets at you. Dodge, dodge, hey there's a crit rocket REFLECTED.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    So pyro madness has mostly died down, right? Last few times I played there was only like 2, 3 pyros?

    The challenge as being spy among the flames was fun for a little bit, but it got painful. Also, I want to practice force pushing projectiles. I want to make soldiers cry. But I'm gonna be crying for quite awhile until then.

    Yeah, it died down rather quickly thanks to Valve lowering the bar for getting the weapons. I'm really glad they did, as now most people have either gotten the 3rd milestone, or are extremely close. Now all is right again with the universe. I still fear the heavy update though.

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  • AsiinaAsiina Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The class limit has been lifted now.

    I think it actually has died down.

  • martymarty Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Asiina wrote: »
    The class limit has been lifted now.

    I think it actually has died down.

    LOLOL PYRO FARM TOMORROW

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    marty wrote: »
    Asiina wrote: »
    The class limit has been lifted now.

    I think it actually has died down.

    LOLOL PYRO FARM TOMORROW

    Volley-Scout at dawn?

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  • VaLiantineVaLiantine Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I hate not having a mic. Such dire things that need to be said where voice commands can't fill that void. Many people died because I didn't have my mic. :(

  • Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Excellent, practicing pyro and spy should be a little more realistic now. Using the leafblower sends me back to those Jedi Outcast days. My favorite thing was force gripping someone, lifting them, then force pushing them across the map. Oh, good times.
    VaLiantine wrote: »
    I hate not having a mic. Such dire things that need to be said where voice commands can't fill that void. Many people died because I didn't have my mic. :(

    The worst is going from mike to no mike. Pressing down V and shouting, only to realize nobody heard you. Damn! That spy just killed our medic and heavy.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Icemopper wrote: »

    Yeah, it died down rather quickly thanks to Valve lowering the bar for getting the weapons. I'm really glad they did, as now most people have either gotten the 3rd milestone, or are extremely close. Now all is right again with the universe. I still fear the heavy update though.

    Yeah, it was definitely the way to go, and then Valve go ahead and sort out the medic achievements too. <3

    Also a crazy vaguely-foreign-sounding androgynous guy/girl was hitting on me in a pub. I am burning my headphones as we speak. Mics aren't all they're cracked up to be.

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  • savooipeerdsavooipeerd Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Speaking of the pyro craze, I think the critzkrieg has become a lot more appealing for medics now that pyros have the leaf blower, especially if you're on defense. You generally don't have to deal with sentries on defense and if you try übering a pyro the both of you just get juggled until it runs out, but give a critz to a demoman and he can wreck some shit with his grenades and finish with a few crit stickies. For offense you still need a normal über to take out sentries but if you have an extra medic they could use the critzkrieg on a heavy, demoman or soldier to clear a path for the über.

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  • Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Speaking of the pyro craze, I think the critzkrieg has become a lot more appealing for medics now that pyros have the leaf blower, especially if you're on defense. You generally don't have to deal with sentries on defense and if you try übering a pyro the both of you just get juggled until it runs out, but give a critz to a demoman and he can wreck some shit with his grenades and finish with a few crit stickies. For offense you still need a normal über to take out sentries but if you have an extra medic they could use the critzkrieg on a heavy, demoman or soldier to clear a path for the über.

    Just be careful about krubering soldiers... You don't want that kruber to turn on you.

  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Speaking of the pyro craze, I think the critzkrieg has become a lot more appealing for medics now that pyros have the leaf blower, especially if you're on defense. You generally don't have to deal with sentries on defense and if you try übering a pyro the both of you just get juggled until it runs out, but give a critz to a demoman and he can wreck some shit with his grenades and finish with a few crit stickies. For offense you still need a normal über to take out sentries but if you have an extra medic they could use the critzkrieg on a heavy, demoman or soldier to clear a path for the über.

    Heavy + Critzkrieg = Minigun Sniping. Seriously, it doesn't matter that 90% of the bullets miss at long range, when it only take 2 or 3 hits to kill you. :P

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    This is true, when I start critting as a heavy, I don't care who is around me, I aim for the closest person, whether they're overhealed or not.


    They all fall down okay.

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  • Job_41:25Job_41:25 Registered User
    edited June 2008
    If you critzkrieg a pyro do you get critical leafblower pushes? If not, this needs to be implemented immediately.

    They should push you across the entire map.

  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Icemopper wrote: »
    This is true, when I start critting as a heavy, I don't care who is around me, I aim for the closest person, whether they're overhealed or not.


    They all fall down okay.

    It's crazy enough when you get a few kills behind you and start to hit the sweet spot of "20% crit rate" all on your own. Sure, only 1 in 5 bullets does Massive Damage, but you're spraying sixteen a second.

    Having 100% crit bullets coming out at that rate = YOU ARE ALL DEAD!

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  • Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User
    edited June 2008
    Job_41:25 wrote: »
    If you critzkrieg a pyro do you get critical leafblower pushes? If not, this needs to be implemented immediately.

    They should push you across the entire map.

    If this were true, we'd have to have a game of pyros only, 100% crits, leafblower air bursts only.

  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Job_41:25 wrote: »
    If you critzkrieg a pyro do you get critical leafblower pushes? If not, this needs to be implemented immediately.

    They should push you across the entire map.

    I think that like the Blutsauger and other weapons, there's no such thing as a "crit leafblower" :(

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Job_41:25 wrote: »
    If you critzkrieg a pyro do you get critical leafblower pushes? If not, this needs to be implemented immediately.

    They should push you across the entire map.

    If this were true, we'd have to have a game of pyros only, 100% crits, leafblower air bursts only.

    You'd need a Soldier per side to spam rockets though.

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  • FugaFuga Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
  • Lando_GriffinLando_Griffin Registered User
    edited June 2008
    I was in a game the other day where we were getting hosed pretty well as a team so we decided to all wait in our spawn then simultaneously come out as Scouts with only bats, it was hilarious but their pyro's loved it.

    Then we all did spies...

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  • BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    bleh, i was trying to work on my sniping last night.....and i don't know if i can work on it....i seem to just continually suck at the same level of suck....booooo

  • JonnyBotJonnyBot Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »

    Yeah, it died down rather quickly thanks to Valve lowering the bar for getting the weapons. I'm really glad they did, as now most people have either gotten the 3rd milestone, or are extremely close. Now all is right again with the universe. I still fear the heavy update though.

    Yeah, it was definitely the way to go, and then Valve go ahead and sort out the medic achievements too. <3

    Also a crazy vaguely-foreign-sounding androgynous guy/girl was hitting on me in a pub. I am burning my headphones as we speak. Mics aren't all they're cracked up to be.

    Hi Ed. Nice match yesterday. I like the part where I repeatedly shot you in the face.

  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
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