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I love it as a baseball geek, largely because I can make Bomberman-looking versions of Kirby Puckett and Reggie Jackson if I want to.
Why don't people tell me these things!?
I just dislike sports, so playing sports in a game is as boring as playing them in real life (But even I liked the Blitz series, because who deosn't want to catch fire and run like a maniac?).
You didn't see the part in Gran Turismo where you can install tailpipes that shoot out flames while an electric guitar squeals in the distance?
Actually, I was jumbling around my paragraphs a bit. :oops: I meant to say that racing sims aren't my cup of tea, but I love much more arcadey racing titles, like EXCITE TRUCK or Burnout. So it's strange to see people dismiss "racing" as a genre when there's such diversity amongst its games.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Certainly is the Wii a step in a good direction, but it's hardly precise or even reliable sometimes. Still it's the way to go it seems, especially for sports games where it's gotten rather ridicolous with all the combinations and things that's basically automatic. (last sports game I played was NHL 2004, so ymmv)
tl;dr - people have no imagination and games aren't just about gfx
edit: motocross games have just recently (like ps2-recently) started to be somewhat close to the real experience so I guess there's a danger in lumping together everything from darts to elephant soccer in "sports games"
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Same goes for sports games. As a Canadian I should have a deep and overwhelming love of Hockey in particular, but I don't. If I approached such games as simply games that require some practice to master, maybe I could glean some pleasure from the experience - but (as was said before) with no story to get me interested, I don't feel any need to compete with these virtual enemies. Unless it's a multiplayer situation, there's no purpose to the conflict. It's not Me Vs You, it's team I don't care about vs. team I've never heard of.
I'm not too big on FPSes either, particularly on consoles. I didn't mind the more intelligent tactical aspects of the original Killzone, but after a while the bland graphics got to me and I never finished it. The other day I rented Resistance: Fall of Man to see if it was worth a purchase, and while it's a very enjoyable rental I know I won't have much desire to go through it again after it's beaten.
For the most part (a few excellent RPGs aside), I'm all about the third-person action or stealth game. Which reminds me, if you want to play a fairly genre-bending game with some interesting mechanics, give Siren (PS2) a try. I picked it up the other day and really, I've never played anything like it. It's a survival-horror stealth game so far, and has some seriously challenging stuff in it. I'll likely go right back to it once I've finished Resistance. It's not perfect, but it's really different and very interesting, so far.
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Agreed, a high score list or a set of "Achievements" is not enough of a motivator for me to play a game. I need something deeper than that.
Niche markets are becoming more expensive to develop for, and the returns aren't improving. Unfortunately, that means some of them will die off. I don't think racing will - there's an awful lot of racing fans, both here and over seas. But stuff like adventure games and military flight simulators are already pretty much dead, and western RPGs have been circling the drain for years now. (In fairness, adventure games pretty much deserved to die.)
And the Western RPG genre isn't dying, it just got more focused (MMORPGs).
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but I thought GRID stunk. It landed in the uncanny valley of car handling, where one minute I felt like I was playing a powerslide-happy semi-arcade deal like PGR and the next I had to recover from a spinout using careful throttle modulation like in Forza. I wouldn't've minded a fast-n-stupid arcade racer to tide me over between the inevitable returns to Forza 2 (which is why I also, probably foolishly, bought the last two NFS games -- this is called "desperation"), but it just felt all kinds of off.
Oddly enough when it comes to Forza, the appeal to me isn't necessarily that it's a race sim that I can spend a lot of time messing around with tuning settings in; I like the idea of getting into the guts of a physics model and tweaking it but often enough I go by a quick-and-dirty online tuning calculator and am happy enough that I can drive well without my car's handling getting away from me. What really hooks me with Forza 2 is the idea that I can take a car in the game and make it mine -- switch out the rims, put on some bodykits (where applicable), push it right up to the top of a certain class with exactly the right mixture of upgrades and give it whatever paint job and graphic design I want, whether it's a recreation of the classic '60s Gulf livery or, I don't know, Muppets or something. I'd be just as happy with an arcade racer if I could do the same thing, which is why I'm geeked for Midnight Club: Los Angeles.
As far as whether or not sim racers are becoming a niche, well, given the kinds of things said by various developers in this article, maybe I've got reason to be nervous.
Metal Gear Solid 2-flashback. "Raiden is the player who is lost and new to the world-yadda-yadda-yadda" Still, worth a thought.
They've got the pro version out now for military training in a classroom, but the consumer version is not out yet. Come on guys, no one's going to shoot anything in a tank these days anyway! Mindless consumers should be a much higher priority.
Hell, with the exception of Ace Combat 6, good arcade military flight games have been scarce as well.
Aye, same here. JRPGS seem pretty ridiculous.
But I'm going to try and break this one down, I just ordered Eternal Sonata from Play.com on the cheap, I quite liked the demo. Well, More than the Blue Dragon and Tales of Whateverthefuckia demos anyway.
I love JRPGs. But I also sort of hate them. I like playing them because I can grind. But I really am sometimes embarrassed by the writing and characters.
Actually, I can't think of the last one I bought or finished. I know I bought FF12 but I don't have any plans on finishing it.
I also have a pretty strong aversion to the FPS genre. There are a few shining exceptions, but I really don't like FPS games for the most part. Deus Ex and System Shock 2 are pretty great though.
I doubt ES will do much for you if you don't normally like JRPGs. The story is completely nonsensical and stops making much sense partway through. The art is good and the battle system is sort of fun though. It was worth renting for that.
I can't take most story heavy JRPGs with very few exceptions that are actually well written. I am okay with cliche stories that aren't too obtrusive and don't take themselves seriously. So long as the gameplay and character customization is fun (playing rogue galaxy now and it definitely fits that criteria).
Yeah it was the art and combat which sold me on it. I'm not expecting the story to make a whole lot of sense.
But it has been a while since I've sat through an entire JRPG, figured it was about time to have another go.
Fighting games tend to bore me. I guess I am just no good at them nor do I have any motivation to become good at them.
Also, I think Mario Kart is a shitty game, and not because "olol arcade racer, nub" but because I hate every single racing game where their idea of making the game harder is to just put everything on a rubber band. I'm actually getting fed up with nintendo right now because their idea of game balance is to just remove all skill whatsoever from deciding the game and replacing it with random chance and luck.
you know what I really want? I want there to be a road rash game using the motoGP engine, or 187 ride or die in the forza engine. That would be supreme.
On the other hand, I do enjoy arcade style racers. Just not to the point of actively seeking them out. I played quite a bit of burnout revenge and remember having fun with cruisin usa and the like when I was younger.
Same deal with sports games. I'm barely interested enough to pick different plays in a single game of madden, let alone play through an entire season. Give me mario strikers or nba jam though, and I'm golden.
FWIW, I don't care for the vast majority of strategy games either. Micromanaging just bores me quickly.
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I don't watch sports, haven't for many years. I do play sports games. But, it's only for the competition. I play most games for competition. I would never play sports games against an AI unless I was practising moves or plays for a real opponent. But I'll play anything, if it's against a real person.
I also don't like racing games. I don't drive, have no interest in cars. I also don't know anyone else who plays them. If I did then I might start, because I'd want to play against someone else. At the same time, and I know this is oversimplifying things, a racing game, to me, is just trying to do the exact same thing over and over again. Not something I would willingly do unless it was against humans.
I also have a problem with "realism" in games. As I've said before, real world combat is unfair and short. Not something I'd look for in a game, especially a competitive game. I did enjoy the first few Rainbow 6 games, though, up to Rogue Spear, so go figure. And style trumps graphical power any day for me. I'd still rather play a game of Quake 3 than R6:V, but that also has a lot to do with how boggled I am about the console FPS trend.
But I would never play games for the story. There are very, very few video game stories that could live up to even the weakest pulp novels. If I want I story I'll read a book, or even a comic. If I want an escape, some interesting mechanics, maybe a few good characters or an interesting setting, I'll play a video game. People who play games for their stories are like people who eat at Taco Bell for the nutritional value of the food; there may be a ittle something there, but every other alternative is preferable.
so if you don't like sports, racing, shooting, or anything with a story, what genres do you like?
Sports games, FPS, fighting games, good action games, puzzle games, adventure games, strategy games, RTS games, RPGs.
Anything that will challenge me, entertain me, or that I can compete against other people in.
Really, the only games I don't play are racing sims, console FPS games, and MMOs.
(Oh, I'm a Habs fan, too...)
Also, I hate first person shooters, mostly on the basis that I get motion sick from playing them. For me, getting headaches and nausea don't make a fun gaming experience. Mostly I play JPRGs, and adventure games on my PC(well, iMac with XP installed just for the adventure games). I also like to try actiony style games now and again, and strategy games(although I suck at those).
Also certain JRPGs don't interest me like the ones where there's an extremely feminine looking male protagonist, where all the characters are designed to look cute, and where I'm forced to do endless grinding just to have a chance of getting through an area.
The games that I like tend to vary in terms of genre. Basically if a game is entertaining and enjoyable to me, I'll play it.
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I'll probably give CoD2 a try someday since I heard it was really good.
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The spectrum of gaming genres has become much narrower than it was in the 90s. Many genres are basically endangered species, and nothing is really replacing them.
There was a time when Rainbow Six existed in a different genre to Counterstrike.
It's called Medal of HONOR.
I really enjoy multiplayer, and the bigger the community the better (I do enjoy playing games with friends but don't do that sort of gaming nearly as much), so that more than anything has constrained my gaming. At the start it was whatever people were playing on Kali that would actually work for me. I added shooters when I found out that Tribes was playable with 500-600ms ping. Broadband opened up a lot more options, but being that I enjoy the competitive community aspect of it, I still only really have a pick of a handful of games at any one time, at best.
I still consider myself an RTSer at heart.
I really hope this is a joke and you're not as big of an asshole as it looks like you are.
That's a pretty bold claim. Care to share some examples?
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