Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it, follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!
I'm actually a bit suprised nobody's opened a post about this topic. If some G&T mod was all like "No arguing about this, at all" I apologize, but I saw nothing in the new stickies.
I'm not here to argue really, anyway. Not directly against the new moves, at least. I agree that the chat thread has long, long outlived its viablility. When you have people who just roost in the chat thread and pick fights, never venturing outside of it, obviously there's a problem. I also agree that some of the members of certain console threads act like dicks towards dissenting opinions. I also don't have any arguments behind the general base logic of the decision. A flow of new users is vital to maintaining a good forum community, and if we want to ensure the forum's future we need to avoid scaring those people off.
However, I would argue that a solid base of regulars is also just as vital. A community bulletin board about Games and Technology is still a community, and some of that community aspect has to leak through serious discussion to maintain the board's health.
Is the idea of a rigidly on-topic forum nice on paper? Absolutely. But this is what bothers me, specifically:
I want a forum that Robert Khoo can be proud of. I want him to be able to take someone from the industry to, and be proud to say to them, ''These are my people.''
I'm not going to even go into the fact that Gabe and Tycho both firmly insist on painting us as a mass of retards. Bottom line, the PA forums should not be a cute little showpiece to the industry. If this is seriously what this is all about, I would suggest a nice heavily-regulated "community site" filled with advertisement space, where people extol the virtues of Penny Arcade-approved games while they talk in their favorite advertiser-sponsored topics, and every post is screened for dissenting opinions. The industry will love it.
It will also not be anything remotely similar to G&T. We're a community forum full of sassy foul-mouthed dicks, with loud opinions that would make the average industry exec shit himself half to death twice in a 10-minute span. We are not generally industry-friendly and we are not going to magically become industry-friendly.
Again, while I agree with some of the decisions made, please don't go all the way down the slippery slope, and castrate the community aspect of G&T entirely when it's just a matter of smacking some of the stupider people in the head until they behave. Especially when it seems that the goal is to pare the forum down into some robotic discussion group lacking any human element so we can be showcased around to approving statements along the line of "Aw, aren't they cute and well-behaved."