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Warmachine and Hordes: Steam, Blood, & Magic
TheOtherHorseman
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What is it?
Warmachine is a game of steam, blood, and magic.
Steam, you say?
The most noticeable aspect of Warmachine is that while it is most definitely a fantasy game, it incorporates things called Warjacks. Warjacks are steam-powered mechs. They make things die. It's pretty cool. You'll see a few later.
Blood? This intrigues!
Warmachine is set within the world of Caen, on the continent of Immoren. More specifically, it takes place within the Iron Kingdoms, which are four in number. They all hit eachother with swords and shoot eachother and blow eachother up. Hence, blood.
MAGIC!? FIREBALLS! BOOM!
Magic pops up in a variety of ways in Warmachine, but the most noticeable way is the inclusion of Warcasters. These are the leaders of your army, capable of casting mighty spells and pulling off a special game-changing Feat every match. It is these Warcasters which control the mighty and hella-awesome Warjacks I mentioned earlier.
So, yeah. They're pretty important.
CRYX
So, there's this island, right? It's a pretty sweet little island, all happy and stuff. Then Toruk, Unholy Father of All Dragons, lands there. It's less happy now. A haven for abominations, Cryx is ruled by Toruk and his 13 Lich Lords. Two of these, Lich Lord Terminus and Lich Lord Asphyxious (known as the Iron Lich prior to his promotion), are well known in the Iron Kingdom due to their propensity for leading armies to pillage and destroy. They're good at what they do.
CYGNAR
Cygnar are the technological innovators of the Iron Kingdom. Their prowess at developing new weaponry in addition to their highly trained troops have ensured their place as a major power in the world. If words like "gunmage" and "shocklance" make you sexually excited, you might be a Cygnar player in your heart of hearts.
KHADOR
The Russia-er, Khador is a massive and cold land inhabited by a fiercely independent people. They're rather expansionistic which leads them to a great deal of conflict with their neighbors. Mainly, Cygnar. The armies of Khador are bolstered by ponderous warjacks that could punch your head through your ass if they weren't careful while shaking your hand.
MENOTH
The Protectorate of Menoth was formed due to a religious conflict in the aforementioned kingdom of Cygnar. The devotees of Morrow were the majority, and got to keep their nice cushy kingdom. The disciples of Menoth were given a piece of crappy land to placate them and made into an independent nation. They found oil, built up some military forces which don't technically exist as such, and now they're fond of making their heathen enemies explode and die. Nice people, all around.
MERCENARIES
This is a world where conflict rules and wars are always ready to flare up. What kind of moron could pass up a chance to make a buck? Mercenaries come in all shapes and sizes. Some are exiles from their own land, called traitors by those they once called brother.
Others are short bearded fellows who like money.
It takes all kinds, right?
Warmachine information can be found in three books:
Warmachine: Prime
Warmachine: Escalation
Warmachine: Apotheosis
Another book, Superiority, is forthcoming. The books are completely unnecessary to play. All rules can be had with a battlegroup starter set and unit specific rules are included with the purchase of that unit.
Although,
This applies to Hordes rules as well.
Play like you've got a pair.
Warmachine is a game of steam, blood, and magic.
Steam, you say?
The most noticeable aspect of Warmachine is that while it is most definitely a fantasy game, it incorporates things called Warjacks. Warjacks are steam-powered mechs. They make things die. It's pretty cool. You'll see a few later.
Blood? This intrigues!
Warmachine is set within the world of Caen, on the continent of Immoren. More specifically, it takes place within the Iron Kingdoms, which are four in number. They all hit eachother with swords and shoot eachother and blow eachother up. Hence, blood.
MAGIC!? FIREBALLS! BOOM!
Magic pops up in a variety of ways in Warmachine, but the most noticeable way is the inclusion of Warcasters. These are the leaders of your army, capable of casting mighty spells and pulling off a special game-changing Feat every match. It is these Warcasters which control the mighty and hella-awesome Warjacks I mentioned earlier.
So, yeah. They're pretty important.
CRYX
So, there's this island, right? It's a pretty sweet little island, all happy and stuff. Then Toruk, Unholy Father of All Dragons, lands there. It's less happy now. A haven for abominations, Cryx is ruled by Toruk and his 13 Lich Lords. Two of these, Lich Lord Terminus and Lich Lord Asphyxious (known as the Iron Lich prior to his promotion), are well known in the Iron Kingdom due to their propensity for leading armies to pillage and destroy. They're good at what they do.
CYGNAR
Cygnar are the technological innovators of the Iron Kingdom. Their prowess at developing new weaponry in addition to their highly trained troops have ensured their place as a major power in the world. If words like "gunmage" and "shocklance" make you sexually excited, you might be a Cygnar player in your heart of hearts.
KHADOR
The Russia-er, Khador is a massive and cold land inhabited by a fiercely independent people. They're rather expansionistic which leads them to a great deal of conflict with their neighbors. Mainly, Cygnar. The armies of Khador are bolstered by ponderous warjacks that could punch your head through your ass if they weren't careful while shaking your hand.
MENOTH
The Protectorate of Menoth was formed due to a religious conflict in the aforementioned kingdom of Cygnar. The devotees of Morrow were the majority, and got to keep their nice cushy kingdom. The disciples of Menoth were given a piece of crappy land to placate them and made into an independent nation. They found oil, built up some military forces which don't technically exist as such, and now they're fond of making their heathen enemies explode and die. Nice people, all around.
MERCENARIES
This is a world where conflict rules and wars are always ready to flare up. What kind of moron could pass up a chance to make a buck? Mercenaries come in all shapes and sizes. Some are exiles from their own land, called traitors by those they once called brother.
Others are short bearded fellows who like money.
It takes all kinds, right?
Warmachine information can be found in three books:
Warmachine: Prime
Warmachine: Escalation
Warmachine: Apotheosis
Another book, Superiority, is forthcoming. The books are completely unnecessary to play. All rules can be had with a battlegroup starter set and unit specific rules are included with the purchase of that unit.
Although,
Echo wrote:One comment on the Warmachine rules: the full rules are in Prime; the ones that come with the battlegroups are very simplified.
This applies to Hordes rules as well.
Play like you've got a pair.
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I in fact do not play Games Workshop games, mainly due to the fact that one morning I woke up, looked at my body, and realized it wasn't made out of some kind of self-replicating precious stone. When I said I hadn't seen a 100 dollar unit, I had meant in Warmachines.
This is mainly because the unit pack is sold in a threesome and I didn't know it goes up to five. Heh.
How many points are the units worth, in total, that come in the Warmachine group packs and Hordes warpacks? I just want to get an idea of how many models it would cost to get a 500 point army. I seem to recall that the Warmachine boxes were 350 points, but I could be wrong about that, and I have no idea about the Hordes box.
Thanks in advance!
I love all the models except warjacks.
yes, most tournament armies are not very jack heavy.
I typically play with 1-2 jack max in a 500 pt game, that number may move to 3 in a 750 game.
This army is a basic sorsha 500 pt list, pretty easy to play. Cost of all the models using warstore.net prices would be
Battlebox $31.99
Widowmakers : $13.59
Man-o-War Demo Corps unit box + 2 blisters : $51.97
Mortar : $9.59
Eiriss : $6.39
Total Cost : $113.53
Army: Battlebox 500
Faction: Khador
Army Points: 495/500
Victory Points: 20
Kommander Sorscha Kratikoff
- Destroyer
- Juggernaut
Man-o-War Demolition Corps (5)[list:62b63834fe]
Widowmakers
Winter Guard Mortar Crew
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios
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A 500 point Legion of Everblight list I use for steamroller 2.0 tournaments...its cheese, but works.
Cost :
Battlebox : 39.99
Seraph x3 : 43.17
Archers : 32.77
Totem Hunter : 11.99
Total Cost : 127.92
Army: Lylyth Steamroller - Mobile
Faction: Legion of Everblight
Army Points: 497/500
Victory Points: 17
Lylyth, Herald of Everblight
Seraph
Seraph
Seraph
Shredder
Shredder
Shredder
Blighted Archers (10)
Totem Hunter
Nothing. Of course Primal has no focus manipulation rules as its main mechanik is Fury. Everything else is in there, though.
Where would be a good place to see some of the new Cryx stuff? I haven't been able to find any good Warmachine fan sites yet.
Good reading material, excellent art, the RPG is awesome and the modules are some of the best I've ever read/ran. Just...awesomeness. I was thinking of making a thread about the RPG itself before I saw this thread. But I'll not deviate off topic any more:
Warmachine: The models are very pretty and the supporting material is very solid and cool.
I am actually scared by each new book that comes out.
Scared I will never, ever, own a fully painted, complete army for ANY wargame, ever.
The undead pirates are a medium infantry unit. They're pretty tough, and they have good surviability, but there's a serious class difference between infantry and even little warjacks. You should be able to work in one or two big jacks, some of the little pursuit ones, and a few infantry units besides.
Now I play 40k, Warhammer and this.
God help me
I don't really care, I just like the models.
I will play hordes eventually, because I really like the system, but for now I'm not terribly worried that the new models haven't been released yet.
Edit: Also, it's because everyone else here plays Legion of Everblight, Trollbloods or Circle of Oroboros. As I do not like the Circle of Oroboros and the Trollbloods and I hate a mirror army game almost as much, Skorne were the natural choice.
Anyway, the game looks like a blast to play
I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty new to the whole tabletop minis game myself, and folks I've met tend to be nice and willing to help out. If nothing else, they have an interest in getting you up to speed so they have someone new to play with.
Find out when the Warmachine folks usually show up and show up one day to check it out. Play a demo or two and see if the game is for you. Then, watch some folks actually play the game to see how it really works, since the demos are usually using simplified rules. If you still like it, buy a starter box, put it together, and play some games before you sink money into stuff like paints, brushes, etc.
If all that stuff is obvious, nevermind, but in summary, don't worry about just walking up and joining in, everyone had to do that at some point. =)
No problem. I really enjoy PP's games, and their models look very good. I have my Legion of Everblight box that I've finished putting together, and I'm looking forward to getting rolled in a week or two at my local gaming store.
Have fun!
One of the coolest looking models in the game, the Cygnar Thunderhead
Although it's not as cool with my crappy paint job.
Siege Brisbane
And Caine is just pure sex. Think Grammaton Cleric from Equilibrium, only with vintage pistols and steam armor. For him alone I would start a Cygnar army:
Allister Caine:
I guess the iSight can deal for now.
Couldn't get a good picture of him, but my current 500-point list.
Hooray for Darius!
Add one of these fellows, who you've been introduced to already in the thread:
Pulp the enemy into goo with these:
(A Centurion and a Stormclad.)
Add Full Throttle to taste. Ass-kicking shall commense.
Yes, I know it's three heavies. Only had a chance to play with it once, but it's worked thus far. (Even though the Centurion couldn't roll worth crap to hit Sevvy.)
And one of my favorite 'merc jacks, the Vanguard. (Not part of the list, just for kicks.)
And the "closest thing to a living light 'jack", the Ogrun Bokur.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
I think you will find that this title is already occupied by the Khador Man-O-War Kovnik
I was mainly referencing that the Bokur's about the same size and strength naturally without having to have on fancy thick power-armor.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
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if linking barter town is not cool, pls delete this
It's an awesome model, well worth the money just to paint and display.
I think I'm in love.
I'll post pictures of it when I touch it up just a tiny bit more and stuff. It already looks awesome from table distance their are just a few little spots that could look better in the up close pictures I'm gonna take.
http://www.plyconskeep.com/hordes/warpack_special.htm
If you've ever wanted to get into it, this is a good way.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
I love you. You are so sweet.
(Trollbloods kill kill kill!)
I have a warpack on the way! Yey!
We play king of the hill. My trollblood friend decides that since it's his first game with his trolls, he wants to see how slow they die, and charges the Warmachines guy, Nate. So that leaves Rachel and I vying for the top of the hill. She charges. Being Ourobuos, she makes it there first, leaving her warpwolf fighting two of my cyclops savages. My gladiator was sent off to fight the warmachines guy. Rachel's two Arguses, positioned neatly around her warcaster, sit at the top of the hill and she starts getting points.
My gladiator, down the hill, looks up and sees a bowling formation.
"So, what's a slam attack?" I ask, as it's only my second time playing, "I see that I get +3 because of my massive tusks."
One charge, and a few good rolls later, everyone except my four armed elephant jackhammer is prone on the top of the hill. I flat out killed one Argus, dropped the other to comatose levels of retardation, and Kaya is suddenly alone on the top of the hill with my gladiator. Next turn, I kill both the remaining argus and the warpwolf (cyclops's are deadly fury efficient, and Morghoul can hit often and moderately hard).
Then it's Kaya vs my whole warpack.
That was pretty cool. I want my trollblood warpack now, though.
Also, TheOtherHorseman, that was the coolest goddamn review I have ever read, and it flat out pushed me over the edge towards purchasing a warpack.
And I immediately thought "Gun Caster" yup, I'm going to start playing.
So I'm going to play as Cygnar, and I had one question: This is guy, Capt. Maxwell Finn, a special character or is he just a kind of warcaster? In the game, do you use a standard 'Warcaster' or any special character? What I am getting at, is I would like to field this guy in basically every game, how feasible is that?
EDIT: Apparently his name is "Allister Caine" (warstore.com mislabeled him) and he has a "Warcaster" model version then an Epic Warcaster" version (shown above). What is the difference in being able to field him?