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Warmachine and Hordes: Steam, Blood, & Magic

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  • KarilmatKarilmat Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    MeepZero wrote:
    I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty new to the whole tabletop minis game myself, and folks I've met tend to be nice and willing to help out. If nothing else, they have an interest in getting you up to speed so they have someone new to play with.

    Find out when the Warmachine folks usually show up and show up one day to check it out. Play a demo or two and see if the game is for you. Then, watch some folks actually play the game to see how it really works, since the demos are usually using simplified rules. If you still like it, buy a starter box, put it together, and play some games before you sink money into stuff like paints, brushes, etc.

    If all that stuff is obvious, nevermind, but in summary, don't worry about just walking up and joining in, everyone had to do that at some point. =)
    Thanks for the encouragement there, they give demos on fridays so Ill try it out tomarrow :D

    No problem. I really enjoy PP's games, and their models look very good. I have my Legion of Everblight box that I've finished putting together, and I'm looking forward to getting rolled in a week or two at my local gaming store.

    Have fun!

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I'll post this in here too.

    One of the coolest looking models in the game, the Cygnar Thunderhead

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    Although it's not as cool with my crappy paint job.

  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    All of the newer Cygnar stuff is great. This guy is manly and sexy enough to be a Khadoran, too bad he's on the wrong side of the war:

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    And Caine is just pure sex. Think Grammaton Cleric from Equilibrium, only with vintage pistols and steam armor. For him alone I would start a Cygnar army:

    Allister Caine:
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  • PMAversPMAvers You wouldn't have heard of it, anyway...Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Man, I need to dig out my digital camera, since this thread needs more Darius.

    I guess the iSight can deal for now.

    Couldn't get a good picture of him, but my current 500-point list.

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    Hooray for Darius!

    Add one of these fellows, who you've been introduced to already in the thread:

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    Pulp the enemy into goo with these:

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    (A Centurion and a Stormclad.)

    Add Full Throttle to taste. Ass-kicking shall commense.

    Yes, I know it's three heavies. Only had a chance to play with it once, but it's worked thus far. (Even though the Centurion couldn't roll worth crap to hit Sevvy.)

    And one of my favorite 'merc jacks, the Vanguard. (Not part of the list, just for kicks.)

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    And the "closest thing to a living light 'jack", the Ogrun Bokur.

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  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    PMAvers wrote:
    And the "closest thing to a living light 'jack", the Ogrun Bokur.

    I think you will find that this title is already occupied by the Khador Man-O-War Kovnik ;)

  • PMAversPMAvers You wouldn't have heard of it, anyway...Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Iskander wrote:
    I think you will find that this title is already occupied by the Khador Man-O-War Kovnik ;)

    I was mainly referencing that the Bokur's about the same size and strength naturally without having to have on fancy thick power-armor. ;)

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  • GrimDog420GrimDog420 Registered User
    edited October 2006
    im getting rid of some of my warmachine armies if anyone is interested:

    link

    if linking barter town is not cool, pls delete this :)

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I just about finished up my Thunderhead.

    It's an awesome model, well worth the money just to paint and display.

    I think I'm in love.

    I'll post pictures of it when I touch it up just a tiny bit more and stuff. It already looks awesome from table distance their are just a few little spots that could look better in the up close pictures I'm gonna take.

  • PMAversPMAvers You wouldn't have heard of it, anyway...Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    BTW, in case anyone didn't see it, Plycon's Keep is having a sale on Hordes warpacks (due to a ton of Hordes stuff coming out this month). They're 40% off, so $29.99 for them.

    http://www.plyconskeep.com/hordes/warpack_special.htm

    If you've ever wanted to get into it, this is a good way.

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  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    PMAvers wrote:
    BTW, in case anyone didn't see it, Plycon's Keep is having a sale on Hordes warpacks (due to a ton of Hordes stuff coming out this month). They're 40% off, so $29.99 for them.

    http://www.plyconskeep.com/hordes/warpack_special.htm

    If you've ever wanted to get into it, this is a good way.

    I love you. You are so sweet.

    (Trollbloods kill kill kill!)

    I have a warpack on the way! Yey!

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I will probably be ebaying a large (1500 points +) Cryx army, and a small, ~500 points Trollblood army (with some hella good painted models I got as a gift) sometime in the near future. I can throw a link up to the auction when it's up, if anyone wants to get a solid starting army for either game for cheap. I have all the books except Superiority as well.

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  • GrimDog420GrimDog420 Registered User
    edited October 2006
    put it on bartertown.org first, no ebay fees at least.

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  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    A couple of weeks ago (before I ordered my trollblood warpack), I played in a warpack game (around 300 points), with 2 friends and a stranger. I borrowed the game store owner's Skorne army, one friend had a Trollblood warpack, and his girlfriend, also my friend, was playing the store owner's Ouroburos(sp?) warpack. The fourth is a guy named Nate, playing the dwarf merc, with Ogrun, and six grundback gunners.

    We play king of the hill. My trollblood friend decides that since it's his first game with his trolls, he wants to see how slow they die, and charges the Warmachines guy, Nate. So that leaves Rachel and I vying for the top of the hill. She charges. Being Ourobuos, she makes it there first, leaving her warpwolf fighting two of my cyclops savages. My gladiator was sent off to fight the warmachines guy. Rachel's two Arguses, positioned neatly around her warcaster, sit at the top of the hill and she starts getting points.

    My gladiator, down the hill, looks up and sees a bowling formation.

    "So, what's a slam attack?" I ask, as it's only my second time playing, "I see that I get +3 because of my massive tusks."

    One charge, and a few good rolls later, everyone except my four armed elephant jackhammer is prone on the top of the hill. I flat out killed one Argus, dropped the other to comatose levels of retardation, and Kaya is suddenly alone on the top of the hill with my gladiator. Next turn, I kill both the remaining argus and the warpwolf (cyclops's are deadly fury efficient, and Morghoul can hit often and moderately hard).

    Then it's Kaya vs my whole warpack.

    That was pretty cool. I want my trollblood warpack now, though.

    Also, TheOtherHorseman, that was the coolest goddamn review I have ever read, and it flat out pushed me over the edge towards purchasing a warpack.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    So I was wandering around various Warmachine stuff and I stumbled on this gem:

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    And I immediately thought "Gun Caster" yup, I'm going to start playing.

    So I'm going to play as Cygnar, and I had one question: This is guy, Capt. Maxwell Finn, a special character or is he just a kind of warcaster? In the game, do you use a standard 'Warcaster' or any special character? What I am getting at, is I would like to field this guy in basically every game, how feasible is that?

    EDIT: Apparently his name is "Allister Caine" (warstore.com mislabeled him) and he has a "Warcaster" model version then an Epic Warcaster" version (shown above). What is the difference in being able to field him?

    I am in the business of saving lives.

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  • TheOtherHorsemanTheOtherHorseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Epic versions of Warcasters tend to have somewhat different abilities from their normal counterparts, as they reflect "promotion" of sorts. The character has become more powerful since the original model was released. Some digging around might net you some generic descriptions of his new powers. Privateer Press tends to look down on people posting stats, though. To the max.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Epic versions of Warcasters tend to have somewhat different abilities from their normal counterparts, as they reflect "promotion" of sorts. The character has become more powerful since the original model was released. Some digging around might net you some generic descriptions of his new powers. Privateer Press tends to look down on people posting stats, though. To the max.

    What is the deal with picking a warcaster though. Is a warcaster just a class of "Warcaster" and there are a bunch of Warcaster named models? Or, is each warcaster an individual unique character with different abilities (a la the specific generals in 40k?)

    If they are different, at what point do you get to choose a name Warcaster?

    I am in the business of saving lives.

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  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2006
    Different Warcasters have different abilities that lend themselves to different strategies. Some have stuff that boosts 'jacks, others have stuff that improve your infantry and so on.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Echo wrote:
    Different Warcasters have different abilities that lend themselves to different strategies. Some have stuff that boosts 'jacks, others have stuff that improve your infantry and so on.

    Ok cool, so then I could use this gun toting maniac (or his none epic version) in every game?

    I am in the business of saving lives.

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  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2006
    Caine is an offensive-type 'caster, with a few buff spells for his troops.

  • PMAversPMAvers You wouldn't have heard of it, anyway...Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    MegaMan001 wrote:
    What is the deal with picking a warcaster though. Is a warcaster just a class of "Warcaster" and there are a bunch of Warcaster named models? Or, is each warcaster an individual unique character with different abilities (a la the specific generals in 40k?)

    If they are different, at what point do you get to choose a name Warcaster?

    All armies will have at least one Warcaster. It's basically a individual character who's sorta the general for your battle group. They have a pool of what's known as "focus", which they can use for various effects. Think of it like their "attention" for a round. They can focus on casting spells, augmenting their own attacks, or manipulating the warjacks under their control to do things that they normally couldn't on their own. (Run, charge, hit more effectively, put a enemy jack in a headlock, grab a enemy 'jack and throw them into a infantry line, headbutt the enemy 'jack sending them to their knees, etc.)

    If you havn't read the rules yet, you might want to.

    The URL for the quick-start rules is here:
    http://privateerpress.com/docs/warmachine/WMQS1_3.pdf

    If you want to know more specifics on how a Warcaster is played, you need to check out the Battle College.

    The article on Caine is here:
    http://www.battlecollege.com/content/view/90/46/

    Caine's frickin' badass. Especially when he triggers his feat (Maelstrom, each warcaster has a once-per-game ability that they can use), where he can put a bullet in every enemy he has Line-of-Sight on within 12".

    Anything that denies ranged attacks (Menoth :x ) may give him a bit of trouble, though.

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I love Menoth, if you think Caine's feat to good, look at Krieoss's.

    Any enemies within 14" of him get kocked the fuck down.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So I just bought: Lt and Capt. Allister Caine, the starter box, 10 long gunners, a mess of gun mages, journeyman warcaster, an extra Defender jack, and some Stormsmiths.

    Who wants to talk about how awesome this game is and how much better it is than warhammer40k?

    I am in the business of saving lives.

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  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I finally got my damn Trolls. Painting them in kind of a sickly set of greens (Reaper paints Ghoul Grey and Cornflower Blue make a fucking amazing color). I bought both other Troll warlocks, but I'll always have a soft spot for Madrak and a couple impalers. I need to play more Warmachine players.

    Last game I played against a warmachine guy was my trolls (Two impalers, an axer, trollkin champs and Hoarluk Goddamn Doomshaper) vs Cygnar with two light warjacks, one heavy, some trenchers, and Stryker as their warcaster.

    I won really good. It was a lot of fun. A lot of people tend to discount the impalers, but not a whole lot is cooler than a spear getting thrown one goddamned foot into your opponent, knocking him off the hill he was one.

    Then I played against Krueger and I lost. Fucking Krueger the stormwrath.

    In short, coolest goddamn game ever.

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  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Then I played against Krueger and I lost. Fucking Krueger the stormwrath.

    Hahaha!

    Eat 4" melee range, Troll hobo! I love Lightning Tendrills. :D

  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Iskander wrote:
    Then I played against Krueger and I lost. Fucking Krueger the stormwrath.

    Hahaha!

    Eat 4" melee range, Troll hobo! I love Lightning Tendrills. :D

    It was okay. Right before I lost I figured out that a 12 inch thrown spear with knockback on a critical is a good way to mess up his groove. We didn't actually get a chance to finish, but I declared it a loss on my part because the player was probably going to win. And I was playing with Madrak, who is really the weakest support 'lock in the game.

    On the upside, Hoarluk Doomshaper is fully painted, and so is my axer. The impalers, the trollkin champs, Alten Ashley, the swamp gobbers, and my shiny new PYRE troll all need a coat or two, but it won't be that bad. Just... time consuming.

    PROTIP: You can use the Troll Impaler's animus on Alten Ashley, giving him an 18 inch range which automatically knocks out one branch of a Warbeast's health spiral.

    Anyone want to talk tactics?

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    This game is so unbelievably good. I just got my Cygnar box and a bunch of other crap.

    This game provides the player with so much stuff to do every turn that it's mind boggling. I feel a lot more interactive with the game than I do in 40k when you just roll a bunch of dice once you finally get within range.

    So, Stryker = Bad ass for Cygnar for real. His focus is crappy, but my god - cast snipe at 6 focus first turn and have your long gunners take down a warjack every turn? I do believe so. Being able to *throw* a jack is the utmost in morale boosters. I don't know about anyone else - but it is my express wish to throw a warjack every game.

    I am in the business of saving lives.

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  • Eela6Eela6 Registered User
    edited December 2006
    I've been looking into Warmachine ever since I saw a demonstration over at ComiCon International.

    How much does it cost to get started, and what do I need to know?

    I'm looking into the Cygnar or Russian factions. Any advice?

    I took three ranks in Craft - Technobabble last level.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Boston, MARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Eela6 wrote:
    I've been looking into Warmachine ever since I saw a demonstration over at ComiCon International.

    How much does it cost to get started, and what do I need to know?

    I'm looking into the Cygnar or Russian factions. Any advice?

    http://www.warpath-games.com sells all Warmachine stuff at 46% off.

    To begin, you basically need the starter box (20 bucks off of warpath), which contains all the quick start rules to begin playing.

    Cygnar = The more maneuverable rangy sort of army.
    Khador = Up in your face huge armored army.

    EDIT: I highly reccomend picking up a starter box then having a friend pick one up to - you can get a lot of mileage out of that.

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I decided that I want to get into this game, and while I'm reasonably certain that I'd rather play Hordes than Warmachine, I'm still deciding between the Circle and Skorne, as the Trollbloods and Everblight don't really appeal to me that much aesthetically. Can anyone who's played either say what each army is like in terms of playstyle?

  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I have played both.

    With Skorne, prepare to take a lot of ranged hits before you get to your foe. Don't worry too much, you have a lot of armor and health. Then, when you get close, you stab them to death mercilessly and fuck up their fury-mechanics. They do have some ranged, like the Cataphract Arcuarii, the Titan Canoneer (coolest), and the guys with needler guns, but the warpack you'll get is a very melee oriented army.

    With Orboros, you are light and fast. Move in the trees, hide, teleport, charge, knockdown, annihilate, retreat. They do not do well when they don't get the first hits off. Also, their light warbeasts really aren't the greatest.

    However, Both Krueger the Stormwrath and Baldur stonecleaver are stupidly good. Krueger flies around, and makes lightning storms, and Baldur, instead of moving reguarly, can teleport to a different forest from the one he's in. Whenever he wants.

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  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Small Troll Pygs with Gatlings mounted on the backs of Dire Trolls for awesome and great justice:

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    Also, to the left here you see a normal Dire Troll Mauler, already one of the most badass models in Hordes. To the right you see the alternate sculpt the sculptor created because he felt like it... Sweet mother of God:

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  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    :shock: :shock: :shock:

    I'm kinda interested in Skorne purely for the looks, but they seem a bit too similar to Khador in their style - melee and heavy armor.

  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    The Skorne really are awesome and share some similarities with Khador. They've got some very unique and interesting play mechanics, though, that make them very different from every other faction. Of all Hordes factions I think I like them most, even though I play Circle.

    Also: Man-O-War on a motherfucking Warhorse, how amazingly cool is that:

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I don't see it has being mentioned here, but someone should.
    Due to increasing cost of metal, PP is increasing it's prices.
    Over the past four years that Privateer Press has produced miniatures, the price of our metal materials has nearly doubled, including a 50% increase in the last 12 months. While we diligently monitor the cost of the metal and price our new products appropriately, the miniatures we released in the first couple of years cost so much in metal that we can no longer afford to continue producing them at their original price. We’ve gone to great lengths to not raise prices. We have purchased more efficient equipment, bought metal in bulk, and continually train our staff in an effort to create a more efficient production process. With the drastic rise in tin prices over the last year, such efforts are simply not enough to keep producing products priced at 2003 prices. In order to continue the production of certain items we must adjust their MSRP to reflect the current materials prices, which constitutes the largest portion of their manufacturing cost. Below you can see a graph from the London Metal Exchange displaying the rise in tin prices since January of 2003. (http://www.lme.co.uk/) In 2003, the price of tin was $2.87 per pound. Our most recent order of metal cost $5.67 per pound, a 98% increase in four years.

    As of January 1, 2007, a significant number of the models found in the WARMACHINE: Prime and WARMACHINE: Escalation product releases, as well as a select few models post-dating Escalation, will receive an increase to their MSRP. No HORDES models will be adjusted. Here is a complete list of the affected models.

    We hope that the necessity of this adjustment is understandable and look forward to the continued support of the many WARMACHINE players, retailers, and distributors who have helped WARMACHINE grow over the past four years. You may send your questions to frontdesk@privateerpress.com
    Starter boxes are going up to 50, on par with the Hordes boxes. A shame, but one price increase in something like 4 years isn't that bad. I just hope it doesn't become a habit.

    Also, that alternate sculpt...sweet Jesus' colon...
    I hope it sticks around to hit the table as a warbeast of renown, or a unique beast it's too cool to stay limited edition.

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  • IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    That alternate Mauler is not exactly limited per se. They're going to see how well it is received by the fanbase and keep it available for as long as it is viable. Apparently it would cost close to 100 bucks in retail, which is why they're only offering it online.

    As for the price hike, yeah it irks me quite a bit, too :? But hey, at least it's only concerning Prime and Escalation models which were underpriced to begin with.

  • zenpotatozenpotato Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So, I broke down and bought a Orboros warpack. Those bastards sure do have a lot of gaps to fill in. I didn't have any green stuff, so I went to the hardware store and bought some two part epoxy putty used to seal drains and whatnot. I don't think it's the same quality as epoxy sculpting putty though, as it was very granular once I got it into small pieces. It was only 5 bucks though, so I guess it's no big deal. It filled the waist gap on the warpwolf and the bigger middle gaps on the arguses.

    Kaya's right arm was also a bitch. My Zap-a-Gap just didn't want to stick there. Looking forward to getting these primed and painted.

  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    I should really get back to work on my Khador stuff. Sorscha is nearing completion, and the Juggernaut just needs a few minor touchups. The Destroyer has the red layers done.

    Thinking a bit about what my next purchases will be. Definitely a Widowmaker box for the pure awesomeness of those models. Maybe a mortar + crew as well.

  • KarilmatKarilmat Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So, I bought a Seraph over the weekend and have been strategizing how to assemble it. I'm sort of new to assembling metal minis (I think I did a pretty decent job putting the Legion box together, but that's really it so far), and I'm not quite sure how to put the Seraph together. In short, the wings are making we nervous. They are screaming to be pinned, but there isn't enough metal on the base to do so.

    I guess I could fit a pin all the way through the base, effectively pinning the wings to each other, but I'm not sure how I feel about that. Any suggestions on how I can put this cute little fella together without having to fix his wings every time I move him?

    Thanks in advance!

  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm going to start work on my Guardian's paint job, these are the colors I'm planning to use.

    I have P3 Menoth White Base/Highlight to use for white stuff.

    I Also have P3 Menoth Sanguine Red Base/Highlight to use for the red stuff. and for the goldish bits, I'll use Citadel colours, Shining gold base with Brazen Brass Inkwash.

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