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40k Action game: "Space Marine"

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? room 215Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    so what you're saying is we need a new Aliens Vs Predator

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    Done

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  • edited September 2008
    -SPI- wrote: »
    The punching minigame seems a bit... odd. That's being kind to them too.

    In all the artwork I've seen for 40k, I've never seen a Space Marine pummel someone.

    uh, powerfists?

  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It's like Games Workshop honestly has zero interest in appealing to anybody but the Space Marine players. I can actually completely understand them not making a game about one of the less-played armies (such as Dark Eldar, even though that would be pretty awesome) simply from a sales perspective, but c'mon, Space Marines are just... boring. They already did a crappy Tau game, so obviously they're out of the running.

    How about Orks, though? Yeah, if we have to have a Space Marine game, being able to start as a Scout and work up to Dreadnaught would actually be interesting, but how about starting as a Grot and working your way up to Warboss? There could be actual humor instead of consistently idiotic fanatic loyalty, you would enforce your will with your particular mangling weapon of choice, and get to fight pretty much every race in 40k for glory.

    Or devouring a world starting as a Tyrannid spore? Trying to survive a brutal campaign as a poor Imperial Guardsmen? Seriously, there are other armies besides the Space Marines that would provide a much more interesting experience and also have large followings in the tabletop arena.

    Just anything but playing as a generic Space Marine (which means pretty much any Space Marine in this case).

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  • edited September 2008
    If I had to say there was one race that represented 40k best, it would be Space Marines.

  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User
    edited September 2008
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    It's like Games Workshop honestly has zero interest in appealing to anybody but the Space Marine players. I can actually completely understand them not making a game about one of the less-played armies (such as Dark Eldar, even though that would be pretty awesome) simply from a sales perspective, but c'mon, Space Marines are just... boring. They already did a crappy Tau game, so obviously they're out of the running.

    How about Orks, though? Yeah, if we have to have a Space Marine game, being able to start as a Scout and work up to Dreadnaught would actually be interesting, but how about starting as a Grot and working your way up to Warboss? There could be actual humor instead of consistently idiotic fanatic loyalty, you would enforce your will with your particular mangling weapon of choice, and get to fight pretty much every race in 40k for glory.

    Or devouring a world starting as a Tyrannid spore? Trying to survive a brutal campaign as a poor Imperial Guardsmen? Seriously, there are other armies besides the Space Marines that would provide a much more interesting experience and also have large followings in the tabletop arena.

    Just anything but playing as a generic Space Marine (which means pretty much any Space Marine in this case).

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    other races, not so much.
    Space Marines = coolness

    Not to mention when you say warhammer 40k the second thing people think of are 12 foot tall space marines after old guys playing with models.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    If I had to say there was one race that represented 40k best, it would be Space Marines.

    I completely agree. On the surface they seem generic, and in many ways they are, but the lore behind them captures the feel of the entire WH40k universe.

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  • Dr.ObliviousDr.Oblivious Registered User
    edited September 2008
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    so what you're saying is we need a new Aliens Vs Predator

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    Done

    Didn't they announce over the summer that the project is being cancelled...for the second time.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? room 215Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    so what you're saying is we need a new Aliens Vs Predator

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    Didn't they announce over the summer that the project is being cancelled...for the second time.

    Just delayed according to wikipedia

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Honestly, for a game like this, it would really only work well with either marines or Orks. Of course, orks would be preferable, but marines are a decent second.

    Now, if it were more of an FPS? Guard all the way. Start as a conscript, the only real protection you have is the countless hundreds surrounding you. Make your way up to guardsman, then sergeant, than finally a veteran sergeant. Slowly, you start getting nicer equipment(not counting what you loot from that commisar you "accidentally" shot), like bolters, plasma-guns, power weapons, etc.

    For missions, basically pick a doctrine and make a mission around it. You get stuck in with a unit of Kasrkin in a mission against the tau, being spewed out of the chimera to see a line of kroot charging you. Or the drop troops level, where you parachute deep behind ork lines, and have to take out a mek boy's workshop before he starts producing ships for a waagh.

    Essentially, I'm trying to say the guard have the perfect setup for a standard wargame, except they could also actually fight interesting enemies.

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  • GrudgeGrudge Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Utsanomiko wrote: »
    I can tell it's not an Ultramarine. Blue is too dark and dull, none of the secondary colors correspond (all the trim is dull metal), while both shoulders have that skull with halo emblem. Chances are it's another invented Chapter.

    Looks more like Crimson Fists (sans crimson fists? hard to tell from the low quality video) to me, but I guess they're just using placeholder graphics at this point.

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  • GrudgeGrudge Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

    Well technically, nowadays Space Marines are born like ordinary humans, but when recruited they are implanted with this geneseed in multiple stages, which transform them into superhumans.

    Only the original Primarchs were cloned IIRC.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In regards to zombies post:

    Great, you just derailed the thread in what I'm certain is going to be about two pages of people citing sources to essentially say "no you're wrong".

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  • GrudgeGrudge Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah, aren't fluff discussions great?

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

    Dork perhaps, but unfortunately you are also wrong. Space Marines are created by taking the gene seed organs and transplanting them into young men between 10-20 depending on the chapter (different gene seeds perform best at different times) The initiates are occasionally mind wiped completely after this process (grey knights, dark angels) but sometimes keep their memories, albeit in a distant form (Ultramarines, Space Wolves)

    Over the next years the gene seed organ releases a huge amount of retroviral DNA sequences and so forth into the marine which cause the growth of all the secondary organs, and the growth of a second gene seed organ (both gene seeds can be removed on death, which is why there are still space marines) The marine during this time is also fitted with his black carapace, and some of the organs are designed to interface with that, which allows him to work with his armour like a second skin. The gene seed also works on the marines mind, in many chapters imparting knowledge from the psychic imprint of the primarchs

    Marines however are definately not grown in vats.

    The game does look sweet, however they should change it so that only the chaos marines can stand up to actually being hit by you. Even a bolt pistol (which is what he uses) should kill a traitor gaurdsman in one hit, and a chainsword hit should chop him in half instantly. If you want someone to be "dazed" by bolter fire, then you need to stand a Tyranid Warrior in front of the marine or something.

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    leaf wrote: »
    In regards to zombies post:

    Great, you just derailed the thread in what I'm certain is going to be about two pages of people citing sources to essentially say "no you're wrong".

    Nah, theres no fluff to back up Zombiemambo. Space marines are created by gene seed implantation, only the primarchs were grown in vats. You can't even clone the gene seed organs outside of the bodies of space marines.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Hahahahaha

    Zombiemambo. Maybe you should try being cool instead, because you sure suck at being a dork.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Also I don't really mind them taking liberties with the exact level of shootiness a bolter should produce, but that combat looked pretty damn boring.

    Environs and graphics look amazing though.

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  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Even if they aim for hundreds of execution cinematics, wouldn't it be tiresome to have to watch a cinematic every third or so enemy you kill? I think it would take the focus out from the gameplay anyway.

    Sure looks like an Ultramarine to me, with the current art anyway. Poor video quality could explain the different shade of blue etc. Environment was really good anyway.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    with a lot of work, it could be good. it is really early in the dev cycle, so there is certainly a lot of time.

    going with the ultramarines or another codex chapter makes sense for a lot of reasons. they are the typical space marine, without any extra weirdness or quirks; so that makes them a good example of space marines. they are well-balanced, not dedicated to a particular style of warfare like many chapters... they are the most popular, they are one of the few "good guys" that do not practice tactical genocide on a regular basis.

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  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    SJ wrote: »
    Okay. I have to be a total fluff asshole here because this is not the case. The Orks have developed the most advanced tractor field and teleportation technology in the galaxy (aside from the Necrons). And Ork guns work plenty fine - on Armageddon, there are Ork Hunter regiments of IG that use captured Ork weapons.

    Basically, some Imperial techpriest (steeped in imperial dogma and superstition) couldn't figure out how the Orks get their guns to work, so he concluded that it must be psychic powers.

    But, no. Their shit works fine.

    Dude. Why not just tell me Santa Claus isn't real? :|

  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    It's like Games Workshop honestly has zero interest in appealing to anybody but the Space Marine players. I can actually completely understand them not making a game about one of the less-played armies (such as Dark Eldar, even though that would be pretty awesome) simply from a sales perspective, but c'mon, Space Marines are just... boring. They already did a crappy Tau game, so obviously they're out of the running.

    Well, SM alone are something like 20% of sales. For all their games.
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    For some reason, most scifi works seem to consider space an ocean. This is why you have battleships and other stuff like that.

    Also, realistic space combat wouldn't have tons of Guts, Glory and Honor. It would be getting killed by relativistic munitions from the other side of the moon in the blink of an eye.

  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    Also I don't really mind them taking liberties with the exact level of shootiness a bolter should produce, but that combat looked pretty damn boring.

    My thoughts exactly.

    And from the comments made by the "guy" playing, they already nailed the feel of combat. So... Kinda disapointing.

    Also they said they captured the feel of Warhammer 40k and Space Marines... Where the heck are his brothers? Best part of Warhammer is the War, not the hammer!

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  • StreltsyStreltsy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Disappointing video, but maybe I can hope for a series of ever improving titles in this game's vein.

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    Here's to hoping. :rotate:

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  • JengoJengo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    While I'm sure some of the people who play the actual miniature game/know the lore would like other races I don't think THQ is working to appeal to that group. Stuff like this is made for people who think the warhammmer 40k universe looks cool but would sooner chop off a limb than be caught playing the tabletop game. For those people when they think warhammer 40k they think space marines.

    It sucks but it seems like that's the impetus behind them always choosing space marines.

    As for the game, it looks like an interesting start. I'll be pretty interested in seeing what the final build looks like. Although, that guy playing/explaining the game sounded about as enthused as a kid doing his math homework.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The whole let's-stop-the-game-so-you-can-play-God of War thing is kinda lame. I loved the stupid names they came up with for the game-play elements.

    I agree with what people were saying about the bolter earlier.

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  • AbsolutionAbsolution __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    The cinekills are pretty much going to ruin this.
    Also last I check, Chaos Space Marines dont politely stand around and wait for a Space Marine to finish stabbing a cultist.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Echo wrote: »
    It's like Games Workshop honestly has zero interest in appealing to anybody but the Space Marine players. I can actually completely understand them not making a game about one of the less-played armies (such as Dark Eldar, even though that would be pretty awesome) simply from a sales perspective, but c'mon, Space Marines are just... boring. They already did a crappy Tau game, so obviously they're out of the running.

    Well, SM alone are something like 20% of sales. For all their games.

    I know that Space Marines account for a lot of their sales, but Space Marines also have several chapters (which means that you have several armies which are grouped together as "Space Marines") and they are pretty idiot-proofed. For the second part, that means that most newcomers pick up Space Marines when they start since it's a harder army to completely screw up with and purchased by people who aren't looking to have to scrutinize every little maneuver to not get crushed.

    At the place I game at, nearly every player has at a least one full Space Marine army regardless of their current army. On top of that, they almost never use their SM army any more and they are generally uninterested in the fluff. Insane loyalty, blind devotion, etc. etc.; it all kinda runs together and gets real old, real fast. Space Marines are Games Workshop's pet army and it's increasingly aggravating to see all the other armies get shortchanged even when they'd provide a much more enjoyable gaming experience.

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  • KylogueKylogue Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Jengo wrote: »
    While I'm sure some of the people who play the actual miniature game/know the lore would like other races I don't think THQ is working to appeal to that group. Stuff like this is made for people who think the warhammmer 40k universe looks cool but would sooner chop off a limb than be caught playing the tabletop game. For those people when they think warhammer 40k they think space marines.

    It sucks but it seems like that's the impetus behind them always choosing space marines.

    As for the game, it looks like an interesting start. I'll be pretty interested in seeing what the final build looks like. Although, that guy playing/explaining the game sounded about as enthused as a kid doing his math homework.

    I think that most people know who Space Marines are, know what Orks are.

    I never played the tabletop game, but heck... I've played Dawn of War, which I think is the targetted demographic. This group knows, at the very least, about Space Marines, Chaos Marines, Orks and Eldars... And I even know the basics of their interactions(they do war against each others).

    I think they could have at least campaigns for 4 characters of different races... You know... Maybe giving some insight on the lore of the factions, not everyone buys the books!

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

    What the fuck? This is totally wrong.

    Space Marine Chapters, through various means, select pre-pubescent and pubescent boys (basically, as long as the body hasn't finished puberty, they're still viable). These boys are indoctrinated into the Chapter and through a combination of genetic modification and surgery usually overseen by Chapter Apothecaries are given the organs and modified body structure needed to be a Space Marine. During this process, which takes years, the boys are put to service in the Chapter's scout company (or made into Blood Claws in the Space Wolves Chapter) to learn the craft of war. The final two modifications are the Black Carapace and the Geneseed. The Carapace allows the initiate to fully interface with their power armor, something that neither Inquisitors nor Adepta Sororitas recieve. With the Carapace, the Space Marine moves inside their power armor as if it were a second skin, making them much more manuverable and faster than they would otherwise be.

    The Geneseed is the most ambigous part of the process. What is known is that the organ serves to regulate the final hormonal and physical changes into a Space Marine, and that the Geneseed aids the brain in processing the additional organs amongst various other sci-fi buzzword-y magic. The Geneseed is also descended from the Primarch of the Chapter and each Geneseed is a precious object. The duty of an Apothecary, for example, is chiefly the preservation of the Geneseed and they recover it from fallen Space Marines. There's contradictor sources on whether or not Geneseed can be replaced, but what is known is that the Chaos Legions no longer posess the Geneseed as their Primarchs became daemons long ago.

    /incredible nerdery

  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tbloxham wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

    Dork perhaps, but unfortunately you are also wrong. Space Marines are created by taking the gene seed organs and transplanting them into young men between 10-20 depending on the chapter (different gene seeds perform best at different times) The initiates are occasionally mind wiped completely after this process (grey knights, dark angels) but sometimes keep their memories, albeit in a distant form (Ultramarines, Space Wolves)

    Over the next years the gene seed organ releases a huge amount of retroviral DNA sequences and so forth into the marine which cause the growth of all the secondary organs, and the growth of a second gene seed organ (both gene seeds can be removed on death, which is why there are still space marines) The marine during this time is also fitted with his black carapace, and some of the organs are designed to interface with that, which allows him to work with his armour like a second skin. The gene seed also works on the marines mind, in many chapters imparting knowledge from the psychic imprint of the primarchs

    Marines however are definately not grown in vats.

    The game does look sweet, however they should change it so that only the chaos marines can stand up to actually being hit by you. Even a bolt pistol (which is what he uses) should kill a traitor gaurdsman in one hit, and a chainsword hit should chop him in half instantly. If you want someone to be "dazed" by bolter fire, then you need to stand a Tyranid Warrior in front of the marine or something.

    Knew I had it wrong. It's been a long time since I read that particular piece of fluff and my memory is hazy. Anyways, you'd only be a "normal" guy for a very brief period of time before they give you all of the bells and whistles and send you out to die.

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

    Man says you. I love Monk/Templars with guns. :winky:

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

    is there anywhere to read some of that stuff?

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

    is there anywhere to read some of that stuff?

    The last time I saw it was an online archive that went down sometime in 03 or 04. I'm unaware if there are any other sites collecting old GW work as GW brought the pain on a lot of those websites earlier in the decade.

  • Milquetoast ThugMilquetoast Thug Registered User
    edited September 2008
    tbloxham wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.

    Dork perhaps, but unfortunately you are also wrong. Space Marines are created by taking the gene seed organs and transplanting them into young men between 10-20 depending on the chapter (different gene seeds perform best at different times) The initiates are occasionally mind wiped completely after this process (grey knights, dark angels) but sometimes keep their memories, albeit in a distant form (Ultramarines, Space Wolves)

    Over the next years the gene seed organ releases a huge amount of retroviral DNA sequences and so forth into the marine which cause the growth of all the secondary organs, and the growth of a second gene seed organ (both gene seeds can be removed on death, which is why there are still space marines) The marine during this time is also fitted with his black carapace, and some of the organs are designed to interface with that, which allows him to work with his armour like a second skin. The gene seed also works on the marines mind, in many chapters imparting knowledge from the psychic imprint of the primarchs

    Marines however are definately not grown in vats.

    The game does look sweet, however they should change it so that only the chaos marines can stand up to actually being hit by you. Even a bolt pistol (which is what he uses) should kill a traitor gaurdsman in one hit, and a chainsword hit should chop him in half instantly. If you want someone to be "dazed" by bolter fire, then you need to stand a Tyranid Warrior in front of the marine or something.

    Knew I had it wrong. It's been a long time since I read that particular piece of fluff and my memory is hazy. Anyways, you'd only be a "normal" guy for a very brief period of time before they give you all of the bells and whistles and send you out to kill thousands upon thousands of the emperor's foes in glorious combat.

    fixed.

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.


    Where's the contradiction? :P

    Hypnotically entrenched fanatacism; monk/templars with guns. You say tOmato, I say tomAto...

    -I owe nothing to Women's Lib.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

    is there anywhere to read some of that stuff?

    The last time I saw it was an online archive that went down sometime in 03 or 04. I'm unaware if there are any other sites collecting old GW work as GW brought the pain on a lot of those websites earlier in the decade.

    bummer

    I play games on ps3. My PSN is DouglasDanger.
  • MiglioriMigliori Registered User
    edited September 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    By the way, space marines are never "normal" guys. They all grow up in tubes, basically. They use genedic seeds, which is DNA from the original (and superior) space marines, and clone countless soldiers from them. From time to time the seeds get corrupted and they need to find new samples to use.

    God I'm such a dork.


    Stuff about Space Marines

    You've been beat. Several times.

    So I saw. :'( Then again, I don't know how much I should trust a thrice cursed Thousand Son. :P

    If you want a head trip, by the way, check out Rogue Trader era Space Marine fluff. Basically they're all drug-crazed sociopaths driven to war almost entirely by hypnotically entrenched fanatacism. All in all, much more enjoyable than monk/templars with guns.

    is there anywhere to read some of that stuff?

    The last time I saw it was an online archive that went down sometime in 03 or 04. I'm unaware if there are any other sites collecting old GW work as GW brought the pain on a lot of those websites earlier in the decade.

    bummer

    http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Marine

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