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MundaneSoul
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So I'm thinking getting my first Burnout game for much arcade racing enjoyment. I've never been the biggest fan of racing games but the idea of being rewarded for crashing like a whoremaster appeals to me.
Now it is up to you, PA, to convince me which game is the best of the series. Revenge is going for ultra-cheap right now through Goozex so it's probably my initial pick, but I'm open to being persuaded in a different direction if you can adequately extol your favorite entry into the series.
Now it is up to you, PA, to convince me which game is the best of the series. Revenge is going for ultra-cheap right now through Goozex so it's probably my initial pick, but I'm open to being persuaded in a different direction if you can adequately extol your favorite entry into the series.
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That and I like the music selection on Revenge more than 3.
I have both (3 on PS2 and Revenge on 360); I don't consider myself an expert level player by any means, so there might be finer differences, but the biggest one for me is traffic checking in Revenge. In both games, there are NPC-type passenger cars just filling up traffic and making you weave back and forth; in 3, if you ram one from behind, you crash, but in Revenge, if the car is smaller than yours you actually "check" the car, slamming it away. I didn't like traffic checking at first because it felt like cheating, but it actually becomes fun since you can use checked cars to takedown other players, and larger cars/trucks/buses will still kill you on impact anyway.
If you have a 360, go with Revenge in a heartbeat; will probably be around the same price as 3 nowadays and it's just beautiful in motion.
As a Burnout title it's an odd duck, with its roaming play structure and trading about of game modes... but exploring the city, learning the shortcuts, collecting billboard smashes, is a kind of fun I haven't had since GTA III.
In a way, it's almost a companion to Revenge or B3, the earlier two vying for the pinnacle of classic Burnout and Paradise being a fantastic roaming racer that also incorporates a lot of what makes Burnout great.
I'd get Revenge on 360 now and bookmark Paradise City for later.
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I know it's all opinions and whatnot, but part of the reason why 3 topped Revenge was the fact that 3 was, in fact, more challenging in most ways, especially considering the fact that you can't knock cars away like you were the Incredible Hulk.
No, you have to actually work for your wins here. Keeps you on your toes, and provides a much better gameplay experience.
You are insane. Crash mode was the best thing ever.
Ever.
See, now this is exactly why I loved Revenge. So over the top and fun.
Honestly both Burnout 3 and Revenge are pretty challenging and they're both awesome. Revenge just slightly edges out for me because of it's inherent ridiculousness.
It is also a deeply satisfying puzzle game, picking the perfect way to smash your car to chain the carnage, when to pop the detonator to keep the ball rolling. It's great. I really missed it in Paradise.
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Personally I just didn't like the open world setup. For the mode where you get chased by a pack of balck cars trying to kill you it was cool, but actual races I didn't like it at all.
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Paradise does have traffic checking you just have to be a certain type of car
I like traffic checking because it makes Burnout Revenge NOT LIKE ANY OTHER RACING GAME. And that's a good thing. Every time my friends bring up PGR or GT I roll my eyes because I think it's stupid to have to drive so perfectly to actually enjoy the game.
In Revenge, someone passes you up... You knock that sissy van on its ass and it flies over to the guy and slams him out of the road. That is so awesome.
Not to mention it's not like driving in the oncoming lane is bad; you get way more boost driving against traffic than you do checking traffic.
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Yeah I think that's why I really liked the first one. If you wanted to make an opponent crash you had to work for it. Jostling each other as you saw an approaching semi-trailer or a pylon or whathaveyou. Made it very satisfying when you pulled it off. Revenge was so crazy over the top. You run into a van which goes flying into a car which pinballs around until it hits your opponent who then takes out half the pack with a nuclear explosion.
Well I still think the game is hard, honestly. And I'd rather have FUN wrecking someone's shit, than be frustrated that the game is too hard. When I play Revenge, it's to wreck some shit with my car. I really don't care much about racing... I just love making people wreck hardcore.
This is my first lime ever. Think about that, OP.
It would have been so easy to keep in Crash mode but noooooooo
It would have had more impact had you actually used lime.
I'll take Revenge over 3, but not by a lot.
crash mode wouldnt work at all with the setup of paradise, just sayin. even if you dont play showtime ever (i havent since i got all the roadrules) theres still a ton of other stuff to do.
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You'd pull up to a Crash event dotted intersection about two blocks from one of the finish areas, start the event, and...
Atomika:
"It's time to Crash. Drive south, toward the stadium. Line up your shot and hit the ramp to cause as much damage as possible."
This would probably involve a ramp suddenly being erected for your event, unless a roadside prop were handy.
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I didn't like Showtime that much either. I saved it all until the end of the game, and it made up only a small fraction of playtime.
If you really like Crash mode, I'd get a different Burnout, but if you like racing/stunts/online, Paradise is great. At first I resented having to learn the whole city as I don't have time for that kind of stuff anymore (I still kind of wish they had kept standard tracks), but as you play it more, the city grows on you, and you'll find the jumps and shortcuts that are actually meaningful/fast/fun.
I played the hell out of Burnout 3 and still do occasionally, for my crash mode, split-screen, and general "arcade racer" feel that I've loved since San Francisco Rush.
Burnout Paradise is my favorite for the city/look/car aqusition/pretty. I do miss the explosions from 3, but the damage modelling is beautiful. I've played the game more than most of my 360 games, the online is great and the game is still being updated with new features. You can find Paradise for less than $30, with the free DLC I don't see how people can undervalue this game.
edit - actually. I liked the crash mode in 3 more.
Paradise is my fav of the series. man, I put 60 hours in to that game in the first 2 weeks I had it.
I would recommend Burnout Paradise to anyone in a heartbeat. I've spent more time with it - both online and off - than I have any other game and they keep adding new stuff to it (a whole new single-player bike campaign this month, for example). Traffic checking is still present but a lot more toned down - there's much more of a speed penalty for it this time around and it's balanced a lot more fairly.
Burnout 3 feels dated but it's still an absolute blast. It's very much a controller-snapper but it's oh-so-satisfying.
The combination of the OTT traffic-checking and the in-race Crashbreaker killed Revenge for me. It felt like Criterion knew that those features made it a little too easy so they tightened the rubber-banding, and it ended up feeling hollow. The best incarnation of Road Rage was in Revenge but everything else was sub-par.
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