It wasn't photoshopped, it was in a fansub and was in that video on YouTube about how terrible fansubbers are.
I watched that from the last thread, and I was looking for the keikaku part, but didn't see it. Asked which youtube and what second it was on, but got no reply. Then the meme kept growing.
It wasn't photoshopped, it was in a fansub and was in that video on YouTube about how terrible fansubbers are.
I watched that from the last thread, and I was looking for the keikaku part, but didn't see it. Asked which youtube and what second it was on, but got no reply. Then the meme kept growing.
The "original" is a photoshop which came from a RAGE documentary about how fansubbers are ruining anime. While there is a small measure of that going around, it is nowhere near as ubiquitous as he would like you to think.
Man, I'm kind of annoyed that Kodomo no Jikan will never be released state-side, but I can imagine the difficulty of trying to market it.
"So, what have you got for me?"
"We're thinking of bringing over a manga series called Kodomo no Jikan."
"Alright. What's it about?"
"It's a psychological drama about a schoolgirl that falls in love with her teacher. A lot of the humor in the series comes from her over the top attempts to seduce him, but there are also a lot of serious themes about growing up and maturing. It's fringe even in Japan."
Psychological drama my ass. It's creepy-as-fuck wish fulfillment featuring a sexually active yet-somehow-ignorant child fawning over another cardboard loser.
SevenSeas actually tried to license it (working title: Nymphet) but dropped it when they found out how creepy it really is. I'm usually a fan of deviant relationships because sometimes they're interesting experiments and reflections of societal expectations. I tried reading it with an open mind and was simply disgusted and horrified by it. It's more than it simply involves romance with a child; it's the sexualization and presentation of the entire situation as mostly harmless and childish fun. It's not that Kokonoe is sexually mature, but rather the opposite. She's actually sexually immature and ignorant but is presented in a lascivious, fan-service manner and offered up to some nice-guy everyman who welcomes the attention but oh don't worry he won't ever do anything about it. Creepy wish fulfillment.
The presentation of the other girls and women are also absolutely maddening, but that's another rant.
Psychological drama my ass. It's creepy-as-fuck wish fulfillment featuring a sexually active yet-somehow-ignorant child fawning over another cardboard loser.
SevenSeas actually tried to license it (working title: Nymphet) but dropped it when they found out how creepy it really is. I'm usually a fan of deviant relationships because sometimes they're interesting experiments and reflections of societal expectations. I tried reading it with an open mind and was simply disgusted and horrified by it. It's more than it simply involves romance with a child; it's the sexualization and presentation of the entire situation as mostly harmless and childish fun. It's not that Kokonoe is sexually mature, but rather the opposite. She's actually sexually immature and ignorant but is presented in a lascivious, fan-service manner and offered up to some nice-guy everyman who welcomes the attention but oh don't worry he won't ever do anything about it. Creepy wish fulfillment.
The presentation of the other girls and women are also absolutely maddening, but that's another rant.
It never fails to amaze me just how toxic and dysfunctional Japan's sexual culture is. Oh, Japan doesn't even begin to cover it all.
Psychological drama my ass. It's creepy-as-fuck wish fulfillment featuring a sexually active yet-somehow-ignorant child fawning over another cardboard loser.
SevenSeas actually tried to license it (working title: Nymphet) but dropped it when they found out how creepy it really is. I'm usually a fan of deviant relationships because sometimes they're interesting experiments and reflections of societal expectations. I tried reading it with an open mind and was simply disgusted and horrified by it. It's more than it simply involves romance with a child; it's the sexualization and presentation of the entire situation as mostly harmless and childish fun. It's not that Kokonoe is sexually mature, but rather the opposite. She's actually sexually immature and ignorant but is presented in a lascivious, fan-service manner and offered up to some nice-guy everyman who welcomes the attention but oh don't worry he won't ever do anything about it. Creepy wish fulfillment.
The presentation of the other girls and women are also absolutely maddening, but that's another rant.
It never fails to amaze me just how toxic and dysfunctional Japan's sexual culture is. Oh, Japan doesn't even begin to cover it all.
The series ISN'T popular in Japan for many of the same reasons it wouldn't be released here. The fact that the woman who writes it even gets it published is remarkable. Believe me, the Japanese are TIRED of being tarred with some sort of pedophilic brush because of a subset of the manga creators.
KnJ subverts this disturbing theme and uses it to tell a story. There's a LOT more to it than what I outlined. It doesn't look like it on the surface, but KnJ is the biggest CRITIQUE of pedophilia that I've ever seen in anime.
I'm not saying that KnJ is representative of all manga, or that everyone who lives there is a pedophile. But when one of the most popular characters to appear in hentai doujins is Sakura Kinomoto, a ten year old girl, that suggests to me that there are some deep problems in the overall perception of sex in Japan.
I'm not saying that KnJ is representative of all manga, or that everyone who lives there is a pedophile. But when one of the most popular characters to appear in hentai doujins is Sakura Kinomoto, a ten year old girl, that suggests to me that there are some deep problems in the overall perception of sex in Japan.
The people that write hentai doujins aren't exactly a representative sample of Japanese people.
Psychological drama my ass. It's creepy-as-fuck wish fulfillment featuring a sexually active yet-somehow-ignorant child fawning over another cardboard loser.
SevenSeas actually tried to license it (working title: Nymphet) but dropped it when they found out how creepy it really is. I'm usually a fan of deviant relationships because sometimes they're interesting experiments and reflections of societal expectations. I tried reading it with an open mind and was simply disgusted and horrified by it. It's more than it simply involves romance with a child; it's the sexualization and presentation of the entire situation as mostly harmless and childish fun. It's not that Kokonoe is sexually mature, but rather the opposite. She's actually sexually immature and ignorant but is presented in a lascivious, fan-service manner and offered up to some nice-guy everyman who welcomes the attention but oh don't worry he won't ever do anything about it. Creepy wish fulfillment.
The presentation of the other girls and women are also absolutely maddening, but that's another rant.
It never fails to amaze me just how toxic and dysfunctional Japan's sexual culture is. Oh, Japan doesn't even begin to cover it all.
The series ISN'T popular in Japan for many of the same reasons it wouldn't be released here. The fact that the woman who writes it even gets it published is remarkable. Believe me, the Japanese are TIRED of being tarred with some sort of pedophilic brush because of a subset of the manga creators.
KnJ subverts this disturbing theme and uses it to tell a story. There's a LOT more to it than what I outlined. It doesn't look like it on the surface, but KnJ is the biggest CRITIQUE of pedophilia that I've ever seen in anime.
It's difficult to see how an over-endowed 3rd grader breast feeding another girl, the constant fanservice panty shots, the simultaneous sexualizing and infantilizing of the characters, and (upon checking the most recent translated issue to see if you were right) the holy-shit-why-am-I-still-looking-at-this masturbation scene are a critique of pedophilia.
I feel like the people who would read KnJ won't be sensitive to the critiques you do mean. I'm usually sensitive to gender and sexuality and tend to over-apply feminist criticism to anime (a point detrimental to my temper) and this isn't the most feminist work ever. The notions of sexuality are horrendously distorted, which may be what you're getting at, but they're presented in such a way that they're appealing to pedophiles rather than being critical.
I'm not saying that KnJ is representative of all manga, or that everyone who lives there is a pedophile. But when one of the most popular characters to appear in hentai doujins is Sakura Kinomoto, a ten year old girl, that suggests to me that there are some deep problems in the overall perception of sex in Japan.
The people that write hentai doujins aren't exactly a representative sample of Japanese people.
Perhaps, but there is an overall current of infantilization and domination of women in Japan, and this is a subset of that.
It's difficult to see how an over-endowed 3rd grader breast feeding another girl, the constant fanservice panty shots, the simultaneous sexualizing and infantilizing of the characters, and (upon checking the most recent translated issue to see if you were right) the holy-shit-why-am-I-still-looking-at-this masturbation scene are a critique of pedophilia.
I feel like the people who would read KnJ won't be sensitive to the critiques you do mean. I'm usually sensitive to gender and sexuality and tend to over-apply feminist criticism to anime (a point detrimental to my temper) and this isn't the most feminist work ever. The notions of sexuality are horrendously distorted, which may be what you're getting at, but they're presented in such a way that they're appealing to pedophiles rather than being critical.
It pretty much is.
A LOT of the character in Kodomo no Jikan are damaged in some way. Kokonoe is obviously
still in a great deal of pain because of what happened to her mother. I'm not going to try to defend the breast-feeding scene because that WAS a rather weird way of getting the point across, with Rin having delirious fever nightmares and crying for her mother. It could have been handled better/less explicit, but I thought it did its job.
Panty shots... Yeah. I'll admit there are a lot of them. Yeah, it's icky. I try to ignore it.
As for the most recent chapter, I guess I came away with a different impression. I thought it was incredibly powerful, not because of the scene itself, but because of the lead up, the plant, the internet cafe - everything. I was very acutely reminded of when *I* was eleven and somehow found my way to a porn site, and experimented soon after that.
I thought that was exceptionally well done given my own personal experience, but I guess we see things from different viewpoints.
I like KnJ because it's a manga about damaged people. It's a very human story of tragedy and growing pains. For whatever reason, it resonates with me.
I wouldn't say that all sexual material is bad per say, but I would say that Japan's generaly dysfunctional sexual ideals lead to a lot of fanservice being rather warped.
Fanservice is allways a bad thing, and when a series is comprosed of nothing but it, it's just kinda pointless and stupid.
And I really agree there, but KnJ isn't purely fanservice (in my eyes).
For everything KnJ does 'icky' or 'gross', there's about ten other things it does totally right. This is even more evident in the anime than in the manga. The suspense for some scenes like when
Kokonoe almost shoves Houin-sensei down the stairs
is just 'gaaaaaah what the fuck' in the anime, where in the manga it definitely didn't have as great an impact.
Oh boy, how did you miss the arguments that erupted over it?
Don't watch it. It's as creepy as it sounds and features, among other things, a frontal bath scene
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Here's nice vote's ref:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtuAOT_c2EA
It didn't. The "original" is photoshopped.
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That's getting made? I thought there was some trouble going on with it.
Loved the first 4, they were much better than the show itself.
I watched that from the last thread, and I was looking for the keikaku part, but didn't see it. Asked which youtube and what second it was on, but got no reply. Then the meme kept growing.
thanks. good enough for me
Was just waiting for the opportunity to post it.
Yeah after the past few discussions I think that the dead horse has been beaten so much that there isn't anything to beat anymore.
FINALLY. (I wanted one of these)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6EO4_1t8qc
"So, what have you got for me?"
"We're thinking of bringing over a manga series called Kodomo no Jikan."
"Alright. What's it about?"
"It's a psychological drama about a schoolgirl that falls in love with her teacher. A lot of the humor in the series comes from her over the top attempts to seduce him, but there are also a lot of serious themes about growing up and maturing. It's fringe even in Japan."
"Sounds interesting. Why is it fringe?"
"The girl is in third grade."
"..."
"..."
"You're fired."
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
SevenSeas actually tried to license it (working title: Nymphet) but dropped it when they found out how creepy it really is. I'm usually a fan of deviant relationships because sometimes they're interesting experiments and reflections of societal expectations. I tried reading it with an open mind and was simply disgusted and horrified by it. It's more than it simply involves romance with a child; it's the sexualization and presentation of the entire situation as mostly harmless and childish fun. It's not that Kokonoe is sexually mature, but rather the opposite. She's actually sexually immature and ignorant but is presented in a lascivious, fan-service manner and offered up to some nice-guy everyman who welcomes the attention but oh don't worry he won't ever do anything about it. Creepy wish fulfillment.
The presentation of the other girls and women are also absolutely maddening, but that's another rant.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
It never fails to amaze me just how toxic and dysfunctional Japan's sexual culture is. Oh, Japan doesn't even begin to cover it all.
The series ISN'T popular in Japan for many of the same reasons it wouldn't be released here. The fact that the woman who writes it even gets it published is remarkable. Believe me, the Japanese are TIRED of being tarred with some sort of pedophilic brush because of a subset of the manga creators.
KnJ subverts this disturbing theme and uses it to tell a story. There's a LOT more to it than what I outlined. It doesn't look like it on the surface, but KnJ is the biggest CRITIQUE of pedophilia that I've ever seen in anime.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
The people that write hentai doujins aren't exactly a representative sample of Japanese people.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
It's difficult to see how an over-endowed 3rd grader breast feeding another girl, the constant fanservice panty shots, the simultaneous sexualizing and infantilizing of the characters, and (upon checking the most recent translated issue to see if you were right) the holy-shit-why-am-I-still-looking-at-this masturbation scene are a critique of pedophilia.
I feel like the people who would read KnJ won't be sensitive to the critiques you do mean. I'm usually sensitive to gender and sexuality and tend to over-apply feminist criticism to anime (a point detrimental to my temper) and this isn't the most feminist work ever. The notions of sexuality are horrendously distorted, which may be what you're getting at, but they're presented in such a way that they're appealing to pedophiles rather than being critical.
That said, man there are crash accident autopsies that sound less disturbing than that what you've described.
Friender is the best robot dog ever. He manages to have a personality with no facial expressions and virtually no vocalization.
Perhaps, but there is an overall current of infantilization and domination of women in Japan, and this is a subset of that.
It pretty much is.
A LOT of the character in Kodomo no Jikan are damaged in some way. Kokonoe is obviously
Panty shots... Yeah. I'll admit there are a lot of them. Yeah, it's icky. I try to ignore it.
As for the most recent chapter, I guess I came away with a different impression. I thought it was incredibly powerful, not because of the scene itself, but because of the lead up, the plant, the internet cafe - everything. I was very acutely reminded of when *I* was eleven and somehow found my way to a porn site, and experimented soon after that.
I thought that was exceptionally well done given my own personal experience, but I guess we see things from different viewpoints.
I like KnJ because it's a manga about damaged people. It's a very human story of tragedy and growing pains. For whatever reason, it resonates with me.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
And I really agree there, but KnJ isn't purely fanservice (in my eyes).
For everything KnJ does 'icky' or 'gross', there's about ten other things it does totally right. This is even more evident in the anime than in the manga. The suspense for some scenes like when
is just 'gaaaaaah what the fuck' in the anime, where in the manga it definitely didn't have as great an impact.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
Also, Negima spoilers.
This is pretty hilarious
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Oh boy, how did you miss the arguments that erupted over it?
Don't watch it. It's as creepy as it sounds and features, among other things, a frontal bath scene
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Ignorance is bliss? I don't keep up with anime anymore and only watch like 2-3 shows per season. I didn't find out about Strike Witches until halfway through it's run. Oh, Japan . . .