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It's Banned Books Week. Go Read One To Spite Sarah.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Interesting line from that Palin article...
    The Frontiersman, the local newspaper that ran a column by Bess for seven years, fired him and ran a vicious cartoon that suggested even drooling child molesters would be welcomed by Bess' church.

    Well yeah, that's kind of the point. The church is just as much for killers, rapists and thieves as it is for the 'Fine, upstanding Christian citizen.' As soon as you filter who comes through those doors...you've completely lost sight of what Christianity is about.

    Kill them all and let God sort them out.
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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Interesting line from that Palin article...
    The Frontiersman, the local newspaper that ran a column by Bess for seven years, fired him and ran a vicious cartoon that suggested even drooling child molesters would be welcomed by Bess' church.

    Well yeah, that's kind of the point. The church is just as much for killers, rapists and thieves as it is for the 'Fine, upstanding Christian citizen.' As soon as you filter who comes through those doors...you've completely lost sight of what Christianity is about.

    Kill them all and let God sort them out.
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    Fair is fair, my friend. Just as long as you take care of my annoying next door neighbors, the Andersons. Flaunting their brand new lawn mower just got them a ticket to BURN IN THE RAGING FIRES OF HELL

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  • adamadam Registered User
    edited September 2008
    I bet the banning of books has to do with there not being a rating classification for them. I remember reading about rape and shit in fantasy books when I was young, and if I saw the movie of it. It would be like x.

  • MrIamMeMrIamMe Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    We dont have a R-rating for video games here is Aus.

    You can thank us for the watered down version of Fallout 3 soon to hit shelves in a store near you.

  • Crimson KingCrimson King we need no grave to bury honesty there's not a grain of it the face to sweeten of the whole dungy earthRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    adam wrote: »
    I bet the banning of books has to do with there not being a rating classification for them. I remember reading about rape and shit in fantasy books when I was young, and if I saw the movie of it. It would be like x.

    Terry Goodkind sucks balls.

    Also I'm fairly sure the reason you can't say n*gg*r on the forums is cause Gabe and Tycho don't want it showing up in search engine results.

    Also the Australian Fallout 3 isn't that watered down, right? I thought they just changed some drug references.

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Penny Arcade forums don't show up in searches. Well posts anyway.

    The reason you can't say that word is because of Gabe's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

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  • MrIamMeMrIamMe Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Also the Australian Fallout 3 isn't that watered down, right? I thought they just changed some drug references.

    Nope everyone is getting our version.

  • joshua1joshua1 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    ....really? Whats your source on that? (This kind of fills me with a dark glee..... if I can't have it properly, NO ONE CAN!)

  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think I might go and read Catcher In The Rye again. After I finish Christopher Hitchins' God Is Not Great.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Penny Arcade forums don't show up in searches. Well posts anyway.

    The reason you can't say that word is because of Gabe's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

    No, the reason you can't say it is that at one point it was the number one google hit for n****** or something crazy like that.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yar wrote: »
    I read both Palin articles, there is no evidence in them that she intended to or attempted to ban any books. The first article acknowledges that there is no such evidence, the second just seems to indicate that some old guy "knew" she wanted his book banned even though there is no record of anything to that effect.

    EDIT: Anyway, to the larger issue at hand, it seems that sexually explicit material available to children is the issue here. Should Playboy be in public schools too?

    Your comparison is silly. The extent of the "sexual explicity" in The Chocolate War, for instance, is a reference to masturbation. That's it. And I think that summarizes the list very well: Conservatives wanting to pretend their children don't know anything about sex.

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  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As a note, some might this funny, as it relates (somewhat) to banning books.

    My mom, an English teacher, wanted to take all of the students in the 6th grade Challenger program (a public school program for advanced lower-income students) who got a B or higher grade for the year to the movies as a treat. The teachers always do something like this to reward the students, and my mom thought a movie would be good because the new Harry Potter movie was out. So, she brought up the idea and one teacher flipped out, saying that Harry Potter promoted witchcraft and was unchristian. Well, this woman threw enough of a hissy-fit that my mom backed down. This same woman has tried to have Harry Potter as well as The Golden Compass, LoTR, and The Hobbit banned from the school library.

    It's scary, but some of these book-banning wackos are much more on the inside than we might think.

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  • SadClownFishSadClownFish Registered User
    edited September 2008
    Snopes agrees that the Palin book banning issue is false http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp

    Its a pathetic drum to beat.

  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think I might go and read Catcher In The Rye again. After I finish Christopher Hitchins' God Is Not Great.

    I read Catcher in the Rye a few years ago with a couple of other 'Classics'. It was the biggest case of 'I dont get why people think this is good' moment of my life. I finished it out of spite in case I was missing something at the end. It is top of my Worst Books I've read list.

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  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fallingman wrote: »
    I read Catcher in the Rye a few years ago with a couple of other 'Classics'. It was the biggest case of 'I dont get why people think this is good' moment of my life. I finished it out of spite in case I was missing something at the end. It is top of my Worst Books I've read list.

    Really? Well, diff strokes for diff folks. I love that book so much I actually have 2 old prints. One is a Book of The Month Club edition, first printing. It's not really worth anything (none of the Book Club books ever are), but it's more sentimental. I don't think the novel is anything all that shocking or mind-blowing, especially nowadays, but there's so many ways I identify with Holden and it was controversial when it was first published. I didn't even read it until I was 18, but when I did I realized how much my life had played out in similar roles. I don't know, I guess it just felt good to kind of know that who I was and how I felt wasn't some kind of anomaly, despite being told that I was.
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    Those are probably my 3 most favorite parts from that book. Yeah, I know, I'll shut up about Cather In The Rye. Interestingly, two other people obsessed with the book: Mark David Chapman and John Hinckly Jr. No, I have no desire to assassinate anyone. At least, I don't think so...

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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    People want Perks of Being a Wallflower banned for homosexuality? Isn't the grand some of gayness in that book summed up as "Yeah, those two guys over there are gay,"?

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  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Snopes agrees that the Palin book banning issue is false http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp

    Its a pathetic drum to beat.

    Did you actually even read the snopes piece? Well, here's the extrapolated articles.
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    Semantics. How do you go about robbing a bank? I don't want to, mind you, I just want to know how. She didn't actually ban any books and the issue was never put forth to actually ban any books, but to go to a librarian and ask how one would go about banning books is bad enough. The fact that someone would even entertain the idea is deplorable. And to ask about it three separate times? Was the first time the librarian said "no" not clear enough?
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    So, to top it all off, after asking three separate times about banning books, just to really, really, really make sure the librarian was against it, Palin had her fired for some vague reason of "not being supportive." (aka: not towing the line) The firing was only rescinded because of vocal support, not because Palin had a real change of heart. Read between the lines, if Palin could have fired that woman and put in a stooge as head librarian, she would have. And then she would have actually tried to ban some books.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime "We're ready to believe you..." FireSideWizardRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Spoiler:

    Yeah, I pretty much read it that she was 'testing the waters' for banning/censoring books, and the public support for the librarian kept her from putting a crony in the position.

    We read 'The Great Gatsby' in High School. I didn't really find anything offensive.

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fallingman wrote: »
    I read Catcher in the Rye a few years ago with a couple of other 'Classics'. It was the biggest case of 'I dont get why people think this is good' moment of my life. I finished it out of spite in case I was missing something at the end. It is top of my Worst Books I've read list.

    Really? Well, diff strokes for diff folks. I love that book so much I actually have 2 old prints. One is a Book of The Month Club edition, first printing. It's not really worth anything (none of the Book Club books ever are), but it's more sentimental. I don't think the novel is anything all that shocking or mind-blowing, especially nowadays, but there's so many ways I identify with Holden and it was controversial when it was first published. I didn't even read it until I was 18, but when I did I realized how much my life had played out in similar roles. I don't know, I guess it just felt good to kind of know that who I was and how I felt wasn't some kind of anomaly, despite being told that I was.
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    I think that pretty much sums up why I liked it as well. When I was forced to read it in high school, I didn't really like it much. Thought I do remember stopping exactly on the line about some girl having huge knockers. When I went back and read it again in college at my own time, I loved it. Holden just felt a little bit more normal to me than most other characters. Maybe being a tech guy meant I was a little off-kilter from the rest of society, and Catcher kinda told you that it was okay to be that way.

    Damn it, it's fucking noon. I demand to know if Yami shit on a desk yet.
  • CJTheranCJTheran Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I still love the fact that people try to ban Farenheit 451.

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    A banned book that is worth reading is Johnny Got his Gun. Great book, but Trumbo was a complete tool.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    People want Perks of Being a Wallflower banned for homosexuality? Isn't the grand some of gayness in that book summed up as "Yeah, those two guys over there are gay,"?

    But that makes gayness seem okay and if we do that then children might just start sucking weiner all over the place. If I know one thing, it is that making things seem okay makes people do them.

    For example, Broccolli is pretty okay. Now, don't you just want to run out and get a big heaping bowl of Broccolli?

    You haven't given me a reason to steer clear of you!
  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User
    edited September 2008
    I think that pretty much sums up why I liked it as well. When I was forced to read it in high school, I didn't really like it much. Thought I do remember stopping exactly on the line about some girl having huge knockers. When I went back and read it again in college at my own time, I loved it.

    I had a similar experience with another banned book, As I Lay Dying. When it was assigned in highschool, I just couldn't read it. It was like it was written in a foreign language or something. Then when I went back to it years later, it was amazing.

    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    CJTheran wrote: »
    I still love the fact that people try to ban Farenheit 451.
    <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" /> True. I wonder if they ever get the irony? I think most book banning people just jump on the wagon without actually reading the book in question. It's kind of like the Mojave Experiment that Microsoft does with Vista.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive Damn these electric sex pants! Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    We read 'The Great Gatsby' in High School. I didn't really find anything offensive.

    Same here. I also read A Handmaid's Tale, The Miller's Tale, The Taming of the Shrew and The Duchess of Malfi in those two years, and our teacher rammed the sexuality of those pieces down our throats, as they're important themes. When I was younger, we had to do a book project and exam on The Lord of the Flies. Despite all of this, the rest of my class and I survived.

    Is Shakespeare ever treated in this way? I'm kind of surprised there isn't the reaction to some of his stuff as was shown in whichever Porky's movie it was when A Midsummer Night's Dream was challenged. Is it just because nobody can tell what the hell is going on?

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited September 2008
    Yar wrote: »
    I read both Palin articles, there is no evidence in them that she intended to or attempted to ban any books.

    True, there's no evidence. Only a history of various people claiming she wanted to. How many people have to come out and say so before you have to aknowledge it's likely.

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  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    People want Perks of Being a Wallflower banned for homosexuality? Isn't the grand some of gayness in that book summed up as "Yeah, those two guys over there are gay,"?

    But that makes gayness seem okay and if we do that then children might just start sucking weiner all over the place. If I know one thing, it is that making things seem okay makes people do them.

    For example, Broccolli is pretty okay. Now, don't you just want to run out and get a big heaping bowl of Broccolli?
    God forbid we be tolerant! I remember, when I was younger, being with my boyfriend outside of the movie theater; we were having a smoke and exchanged a quick kiss. Then, two little girls walk up to us and say, point-blank without missing a beat, "your going to hell. My mom says fags burn in hell." We tried to smile and ignore it, they were only like 10 and 12, at most. But they kept following us, saying that we were disgusting, unfit for this Earth, etc. If that's the type of ideology people hope to spread by banning such books, I'm glad our society demonizes such banning.

    And I actually like broccoli, especially with some fine sharp cheddar. (YUM!)

    It blows my mind that people would try and ban Flowers For Algernon. That was such a powerful and poignant book. (it was a short story, but got expanded to a short novel cos it was so popular) I honestly think that was the first time a piece of media actually made me cry. To ban a book like that with sucha powerful message is just mind-boggling to me.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    CJTheran wrote: »
    I still love the fact that people try to ban Farenheit 451.

    The book was just about how television is teh evul.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    CJTheran wrote: »
    I still love the fact that people try to ban Farenheit 451.

    The book was just about how television is teh evul.

    ehhh

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It blows my mind that people would try and ban Flowers For Algernon. That was such a powerful and poignant book. (it was a short story, but got expanded to a short novel cos it was so popular) I honestly think that was the first time a piece of media actually made me cry. To ban a book like that with sucha powerful message is just mind-boggling to me.
    Yea, we had to read that book in middle school and I remember trying like hell not to cry a bunch in class.

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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Penny Arcade forums don't show up in searches. Well posts anyway.

    The reason you can't say that word is because of Gabe's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

    Yes they do. There are sites that crawl these boards. If I google my username I get pages of posts that I've made here.

  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bama wrote: »
    It blows my mind that people would try and ban Flowers For Algernon. That was such a powerful and poignant book. (it was a short story, but got expanded to a short novel cos it was so popular) I honestly think that was the first time a piece of media actually made me cry. To ban a book like that with sucha powerful message is just mind-boggling to me.
    Yea, we had to read that book in middle school and I remember trying like hell not to cry a bunch in class.

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Inasmuch as nobody else seemed to notice. I was unable to actually see words on the page at one point.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    We read 'The Great Gatsby' in High School. I didn't really find anything offensive.

    I found The Great Gatsby offensive.

    It's fucking terrible.

    I think Scary Stories tends to be up there because of the rather gruesome illustrations. Probably the least offensive reason for banning a book, but still.

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Why the fuck is "Where's Waldo" on that list?

    He forgot to drow a bra on a woman.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Why the fuck is "Where's Waldo" on that list?
    Apparently one of them had sideboob

    True story

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So that's why America spontaneously combusted.

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