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Official Veep Debate Thread: FULL DEBATE VIDEO IN FIRST POST

necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited October 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Full Debate on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FbCPzAsRA

WARNING: The rules for the first Presidential Debate thread apply here as well. This is the only warning you'll get about not filling this thread with stuff unrelated to the debate. And I don't mean tangentially related stuff is OK. This is a debate commentary thread, so don't fill it with commentary about how Palin blows moose and Biden's USRDA of his own feet exceeds 9000 before it starts.


Location: Washington University, St. Louis, MO

Time: 9:00 EDT / 8:00 PM CDT

Moderator: Gwen Ifill

Webstream: You go find it.

Now, the most important part: Rules for the Vice-Presidential Debate Drinking Game
Spoiler:

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There's no point in you getting both of yourselves all worked up and ready to chart the undiscovered country, then having her flush crimson red, run to the bathroom, and spend twenty minutes straining and grunting and stressing out because you're all ready to deliver your package but there's a three inch thick Sunday paper clogging up the mail slot.
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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I hope Iphil saw that.

  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jragghen wrote: »
    necroSYS wrote: »
    If I could pick one of the questions from that list, it would be this one:
    The claim by Dick Cheney that he was exempt from certain disclosure requirements because the vice president was a “legislative officer” has been greeted with outrage. But the main power the Constitution grants the vice president is a legislative one — breaking a tie vote in the Senate.

    So, Governor Palin, Senator Biden, doesn’t Mr. Cheney have a point?

    But, then, if the vice president is a legislative officer, how can he wield the vast executive powers that Mr. Cheney has exercised, including orchestrating and supervising a warrantless wiretapping program?

    Can the vice president shift between branches at his convenience? If not, what, in your view, is the constitutional status of the vice presidency?

    I'd like to hear both candidates' ideas about the proper role and powers of the vice-president, especially in light of the power grab made by Cheney. (I also think this will be a great time to see Palin fall on her ass, since she barely knows what the constitutional role of the VP is, let alone what it should be.)

    I agree entirely.

    Biden's answered this already, but I'm too lazy to find the answer. :oops:

    He has no intention of overstepping the role of VP as Cheney has.

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jragghen wrote: »
    necroSYS wrote: »
    If I could pick one of the questions from that list, it would be this one:
    The claim by Dick Cheney that he was exempt from certain disclosure requirements because the vice president was a “legislative officer” has been greeted with outrage. But the main power the Constitution grants the vice president is a legislative one — breaking a tie vote in the Senate.

    So, Governor Palin, Senator Biden, doesn’t Mr. Cheney have a point?

    But, then, if the vice president is a legislative officer, how can he wield the vast executive powers that Mr. Cheney has exercised, including orchestrating and supervising a warrantless wiretapping program?

    Can the vice president shift between branches at his convenience? If not, what, in your view, is the constitutional status of the vice presidency?

    I'd like to hear both candidates' ideas about the proper role and powers of the vice-president, especially in light of the power grab made by Cheney. (I also think this will be a great time to see Palin fall on her ass, since she barely knows what the constitutional role of the VP is, let alone what it should be.)

    I agree entirely.

    Biden's answered this already, but I'm too lazy to find the answer. :oops:

    He has no intention of overstepping the role of VP as Cheney has.

    When Couric asked him what the worst thing Cheney has done, Biden answered, "walking all over the Constitution."

  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    t1land.palin.biden.gi.jpg

    the candidates arriving


    I bet she's got an earpiece under all that hair. I only remember seeing her hair down in one of her very early rallies.

  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    necroSYS wrote: »
    If I could pick one of the questions from that list, it would be this one:
    The claim by Dick Cheney that he was exempt from certain disclosure requirements because the vice president was a “legislative officer” has been greeted with outrage. But the main power the Constitution grants the vice president is a legislative one — breaking a tie vote in the Senate.

    So, Governor Palin, Senator Biden, doesn’t Mr. Cheney have a point?

    But, then, if the vice president is a legislative officer, how can he wield the vast executive powers that Mr. Cheney has exercised, including orchestrating and supervising a warrantless wiretapping program?

    Can the vice president shift between branches at his convenience? If not, what, in your view, is the constitutional status of the vice presidency?

    I'd like to hear both candidates' ideas about the proper role and powers of the vice-president, especially in light of the power grab made by Cheney. (I also think this will be a great time to see Palin fall on her ass, since she barely knows what the constitutional role of the VP is, let alone what it should be.)

    I agree entirely.

    Biden's answered this already, but I'm too lazy to find the answer. :oops:

    He has no intention of overstepping the role of VP as Cheney has.

    When Couric asked him what the worst thing Cheney has done, Biden answered, "walking all over the Constitution."


    I love him.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Biden: Long Lost Brother of Hunter S. Thompson?

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited October 2008
    Clevinger wrote: »
    t1land.palin.biden.gi.jpg

    the candidates arriving


    I bet she's got an earpiece under all that hair. I only remember seeing her hair down in one of her very early rallies.

    I'm still not convinced that shape under Bush's jacket was a portable difibrilator.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Clevinger wrote: »
    t1land.palin.biden.gi.jpg

    the candidates arriving


    I bet she's got an earpiece under all that hair.

    Palin looks like she's arriving at some kind of county fair. Biden looks like he's about to make a hit.

  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Clevinger wrote: »
    t1land.palin.biden.gi.jpg

    the candidates arriving


    I bet she's got an earpiece under all that hair.

    Palin looks like she's arriving at some kind of county fair. Biden looks like he's about to make a hit.

    Well in a way, he is.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You know, I'm in Obama's camp through and through, but I'm going to laugh when she vastly exceeds your alls' nonexistent expectations.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I'm in Obama's camp through and through, but I'm going to laugh when she vastly exceeds your alls' nonexistent expectations.

    0x0 is still... 0

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jragghen wrote: »
    You know, I'm in Obama's camp through and through, but I'm going to laugh when she vastly exceeds your alls' nonexistent expectations.

    We'll see.

    I'm psyched. The odds of something incredibly stupid being said tonight is extremely high, and I loves me a good gaffe. Also, Gwen Ifill! <3 This is like a perfect storm of political debates.

    ...I need to go make popcorn.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    "Blink" should be on the drinking game Palin word list.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Baaahhh, why do these things always have to air around normal people's work schedule? I will either have to find a stream that gets through my work firewall or watch it later.

    Honestly this contains so much more raw potential for entertainment than the Obama/McCain debate.

  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    Wait, what?

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    Wait, what?

    Baby versus Rhino.

  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Baby versus Rhino.

    God, I love the zoo.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Great line on CNN re Palin:
    If she doesn't fall off the podium, she has exceeded expectations.

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    Wait, what?

    Baby versus Rhino.

    Well, yeah. I got that. Still... What?

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    Wait, what?

    Baby versus Rhino.

    Well, yeah. I got that. Still... What?

    Palin is the baby, and Biden is the rhino.
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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    "Blink" should be on the drinking game Palin word list.

    Don't blink

    Whatever you do don't blink

    Spoiler:

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I can't get this out of my head:

    Babyvsrhinoshirt.jpg

    Wait, what?

    Baby versus Rhino.

    Well, yeah. I got that. Still... What?

    Palin is the baby, and Biden is the rhino.

    20040507h.gif

    The "Palin = Baby" part I gleaned just from context.

    Somehow, though, I either never saw that comic, or didn't remember it.

  • reVersereVerse Never odd or even Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    "Blink" should be on the drinking game Palin word list.

    Don't blink

    Whatever you do don't blink

    Spoiler:

    Oh goddamnit.

    I'm gonna have those nightmares again.

  • KhaczorKhaczor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    What is the IRC information?! Post on 1st page if possible

  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    "Blink" should be on the drinking game Palin word list.

    Don't blink

    Whatever you do don't blink

    Spoiler:

    Oh goddamnit.

    I'm gonna have those nightmares again.
    That one was so awesome yet frightening.

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre @PixelateJake on TwitterRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Soooo ready for this.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Do I win or lose the drinking game if I started three hours ago sans conditionals?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Lovely wrote: »
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

    irc.slashnet.org
    #2008elections

    Off to make popcorn!

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Lovely wrote: »
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

    The one you're not invited to. :x

    irc.slashdot.org
    #2008elections

    edit: Tomata isn't invited either.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am watching with the 'rents, so no drinking game for me.

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
  • Grammaton ClericGrammaton Cleric Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Am I being too much of a conspiracy theorist in thinking that she has an ear piece too? She NEVER has her hair down.

    Goddammit...

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone remember the URL of the web based IRC client medo posted last week?

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

    The one you're not invited to. :x

    irc.slashdot.org
    #2008elections

    edit: Tomata isn't invited either.

    Am I invited?

    I won't come, I just want the invite.

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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't have debate pizza. I do however have debate pasta. And an excitement hat.

    PSN: allenquid
  • TehSpectreTehSpectre @PixelateJake on TwitterRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Anyone remember the URL of the web based IRC client medo posted last week?
    I would like this as well.

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

    The one you're not invited to. :x

    irc.slashdot.org
    #2008elections

    edit: Tomata isn't invited either.

    Am I invited?

    I won't come, I just want the invite.

    No.

    But it's cool, GATE CRASHIN' TAIM >D !!!! WOOOO! .....*cough* >_> . .....*sniff*

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Anyone remember the URL of the web based IRC client medo posted last week?
    I would like this as well.

    www.mibbit.com

  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Lovely wrote: »
    Er, what's the IRC chat room we have for this debate again?

    The one you're not invited to. :x

    irc.slashdot.org
    #2008elections

    edit: Tomata isn't invited either.
    There's no one in there right now.

    Right?

    PSN: allenquid
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