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[OOC - 4E DnD] Sorrow of the Heavens

AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Critical Failures
This is the OOC and general thread for my campaign Sorrow of the Heavens. We'll begin with the player list, thanks for everyone who applied in the previous thread.

We will be playing on a Sunday from 9-1pm on a Sunday New Zealand time. In New York time this is 2 to 6pm on a Saturday afternoon. You need to inform me ahead of time if you can't make a session, because it's just being polite! We will be using ventrillo and maptools for this campaign.


TSI|Awesome - Human Sorcerer (Striker)
Terrendos - Human Cleric (Leader)
REG Rysk - Eladrin Wizard (Controller and pew pew pew machine)
illgottengains - Half-Orc Barbarian (Striker)
Goumindong - Dwarf Fighter (Defender)


Here is the In Character Thread.

Those who have fallen or been lost to the sands of time

Kilroy - Human Cleric (Leader) Killed by Amaranth.
Arasaki - Revenant Ranger (Striker) Struck down opposing the party as they fought an avatar of Orcus.
Prof Moriaty - Warforged Rogue (Striker) Met Mortis the Wrathful and discovered he was more than wrathful enough.

YesNoMu - Dragonborn Barbarian (Striker and kinda Defender) Living happily with family in Valkur's Roar
illgottengains - Halfling Cleric (Leader) Escaped Shadowfell, whereabouts currently unknown
Arasaki - Deva Avenger (Striker) Currently in the Catacombs of the Dead.
Arasaki - Githyanki Swordmage (Defender) Presumed missing on the Shadowfell
Terrendos - Half-Elf Warlock (Striker) Escaped Shadowfell, whereabouts currently unknown
Morninglord - Half-Elf Paladin (Defender) Escaped Shadowfell, whereabouts currently unknown


The Glorious Dead list. Characters whom, in any campaign I've run have been permanently killed in gameplay.
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The game will begin later this month and this is the OOC thread, feel free to ask me questions and whatever else. Sort out your party as well and who wants to play what. As I said in the previous thread I wouldn't mind having a party with 2 defenders and 1 leader, or 2 leaders and a defender at about minimum. So long as you have that sort of "base", I don't mind what character classes you guys want to play. In the end, game balance is my job, so don't feel hamstrung. If you want to play something and you don't think it fits, do it anyway and we'll see how it goes. I don't want anyone feeling like they didn't get to play what they wanted!

We are currently using: Maptools beta 63.


Anyway, here is some story detail. It's spoilered so that if you don't feel your character would know this then you don't have to. It's lore about an ancient legend that might be relevant to the campaign. It could be utterly irrelevant. It might be entirely wrong in places, true in other places and sometimes tells a half-truth (or a half-lie). Either way, it should give you a general idea to theme of the campaign.
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Mechanical stuff for the campaign.

Books allowed are (for PCs):
Players Hand Book
Forgotten Realms Players Guide
Adventurers Vault
Martial Power (Highly approve)

Dungeon/Dragon stuff (permission required):
Barbarian article
Warlock Article
Swordmage Article
Gladiator Articles (but ask me first)
Faerun Epic Destinies article (Elven High Mages ritual ability doesn't apply to item creation rituals, no matter how clever your hamster).
Adventurers of the Realms.

Not allowed stuff (definitely):
Warforged. I just dislike them in Forgotten Realms and I just can't see how they fit at all. This race is not permitted.
Ritualists Ring. Stacking with Elven High Mage gets rid of this.

Anything else I can think of eventually.

Starting gold is 100. You can buys anything you want. Once I'm done sorting out my stuff, you'll have the option of an "easy opening" or "in the deep end". The easy opening starts in a small town north of waterdeep and takes you from levels 1-2, designed to sort of being a way of easing into the game. The other just starts directly in in Waterdeep.

Also, tell me your general DnD experience and such (if you're new, played a lot of DnD and that sort of thing).

Here is a map of Faerun.

Important Edit:

Weapon Finesse counts as a feat bonus (as does implement expertise).

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  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yay!

    I plan to play a Paladin in the service of Aumunator, at this point.

    Reg you are free to be a Wizard.

    Expect arrogant and irritating advice.
    Spoiler:

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I was looking forward to you guys fighting over who would be the wizard :( I had a pit of death and everything.

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That was before I read the FRCG.

    It grew on me until there no longer was a choice.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That was before I read the FRCG.

    It grew on me until there no longer was a choice.

    The artwork is so appropriate I feel. It's how I will picture you from now on <3

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    That was before I read the FRCG.

    It grew on me until there no longer was a choice.

    The artwork is so appropriate I feel. It's how I will picture you from now on <3

    You wouldn't be too far wrong if you placed that picture into TFU and had some flailing stormtroopers in the background and the club was a lightsaber.

    In fact you would be uncannily accurate.

    I am planning to make my character have had some experience with wizards. Maybe a brother.

    This way I can make IC know it all remarks. It'll be glorious.

    "Was it really necessary to use fireball just then? My brother never used to..."

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  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wizard, obviously. I like to blow stuff up, but never involve allies in area attacks. That's the short of it.

  • KilroyKilroy The Architect Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    At the moment, I'm looking at playing a tactical Warlord, but that may change when I get the Forgotten Realms guide.

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    REG Rysk wrote: »
    Wizard, obviously. I like to blow stuff up, but never involve allies in area attacks. That's the short of it.

    Huh.

    My brother used to involve me in area attacks.

    Made me what I am.

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  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This thread is OOC, JERK!

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I know. I'm messing with you.

    I'm debating how I could pull off an annoying quirk like that charismatically. If I can't it'll have to stay an affectionate ooc rib...

    ...Nancy magic boy.

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  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So mean...

    Oh, and my experience is from a while back, like 2nd Ed or maybe 3rd.

    Also, how did you want to get our character data? The site that I got the maptool from has a 4e sheet, but it's lacking feats, powers, and items.

  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, I'm still undecided between Cleric and Warlock. Leaning towards Warlock but if someone has their heart set on one let it be known.

    EDIT: I'm assuming the Point Buy system?

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Mmm, that Barbarian looks tasty. I might just do that! Fighter or taclord if it's not cool with you, Aegeri.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Darn it. I picked up the FRPG and now I've got cool ideas for a lightning-obsessed stormsoul genasi Cleric.

    There's too many characters I want to make, darn it! This is just going to come down to me waiting until everyone else picks.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Mmm, that Barbarian looks tasty. I might just do that! Fighter or taclord if it's not cool with you, Aegeri.

    I have no issue with you wanting to play a Barbarian. I'm very interested in seeing how the class works out.
    Terrendos wrote:
    EDIT: I'm assuming the Point Buy system?

    Yes, I like it actually.

    As for character sheets and such, there is a site called Myth-weavers or something that allows for online character sheets. That's the best way of doing it. I can't quite remember what the name is, but it should be linked in the OP of the main DnD thread if not elsewhere.

    A Cleric/Warlord would be very good at the moment.

    This makes the party:

    Barbarian
    Paladin
    Cleric/Warlord
    Warlord (unless Kilroy changes his mind)
    Wizard
    Preferably another striker (but the above is fine by itself as well IMO).

  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Go ahead and put me down as a Cleric. Dunno if I'll be using the Genasi one, but I'm definitely going with a Battle build, probably into the Battlepriest Paragon class so I can backup tank later.

    EDIT: D&D experience

    - played a tiny bit of 3.0 (a single one-shot adventure)
    - played some 3.5 with a Cleric, basically from level 1 to 5
    - played a bunch of Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2
    - DM'd a one shot in 4e (mostly to convince my friends how great it is,) played several encounters in another game before it fell apart

    So yeah, I'm pretty much still a novice. Most of my experience is with Clerics and Warlocks, which are the main two classes I really like.

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Mmm, that Barbarian looks tasty. I might just do that! Fighter or taclord if it's not cool with you, Aegeri.

    I have no issue with you wanting to play a Barbarian. I'm very interested in seeing how the class works out.
    Rawk. Minotaur cool with you? How about Warforged with the Dragon stuff?

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Mmm, that Barbarian looks tasty. I might just do that! Fighter or taclord if it's not cool with you, Aegeri.

    I have no issue with you wanting to play a Barbarian. I'm very interested in seeing how the class works out.
    Rawk. Minotaur cool with you? How about Warforged with the Dragon stuff?

    Minotaur just doesn't fit at all because I can't see it working terribly well with the various peasantry and cities you'll be visiting. I'm not entirely sure on warforged, you should give me a link to the relevant dragon article.

  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Aw. Even if I was a peaceful type? I wouldn't be starting trouble, I'm actually Good.

    Here's the warforged article.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Aw. Even if I was a peaceful type? I wouldn't be starting trouble, I'm actually Good.

    Well it's more "How does this fit with the other players" and how often would it cause trouble in more civilised regions (because it certainly would draw more than a bit of interest from your average Joe peasant).

    Reading through this, they do seem fine but I'd need to ponder as to how to implement them into the realms. Most likely originated from Lantans Rest, which is an Island that formerly had a large group of gnomes that invented all kinds of advanced constructs and such. They got wiped out by tidal waves after the spellplague though, but that is one potential origin. I'm open to any other ideas you have as to an origin or similar.

    Reading through the article I'm probably happy to allow it.

  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Aw. Even if I was a peaceful type? I wouldn't be starting trouble, I'm actually Good.

    Well it's more "How does this fit with the other players" and how often would it cause trouble in more civilised regions (because it certainly would draw more than a bit of interest from your average Joe peasant).
    OK. I don't know anything about the FR, so I don't really know which races are seen as ok or not by the average person. Apparently drow are OK now? It's all pretty confusing to me.

    Out of curiosity, does the book mention lycanthropes at all? I thought I'd heard about them from reviews, and they'd make a pretty good reskinned minotaur (as well as shifter, but those don't have the stat increases!). They seem even more likely to draw attention than a minotaur, but you never know with these crazy fantasy worlds.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Aw. Even if I was a peaceful type? I wouldn't be starting trouble, I'm actually Good.

    Well it's more "How does this fit with the other players" and how often would it cause trouble in more civilised regions (because it certainly would draw more than a bit of interest from your average Joe peasant).
    OK. I don't know anything about the FR, so I don't really know which races are seen as ok or not by the average person. Apparently drow are OK now? It's all pretty confusing to me.

    Drow are regarded with suspicion and outright hostility in many regions, but due to the Spellplague tearing a ton of the underdark up there are more Drow around on the surface than there used to be. So they are sort of accepted these days, though individuals will still encounter quite a lot
    Out of curiosity, does the book mention lycanthropes at all? I thought I'd heard about them from reviews, and they'd make a pretty good reskinned minotaur (as well as shifter, but those don't have the stat increases!).

    Shifters are actually a race in PHB2, as well as Daevas and a few other weird things. Shifters are mentioned in the FRPG as well as Goliaths. I don't know what these guys do**, but I am betting the Goliath is the "large" players race, which is going to be interesting in itself.

    Basically, any race in the PHB or FRPG* is fine by me. Anything after that I need to have a think about, because generally I disapprove of having "monster" races in a party. It requires special justification unless everyone is a monster of some sort.

    *Genasi and Drow in this case.

    **Well ok, I do know that at some point they can shift into a fire Salamander for some reason. I don't know why but they can.

  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    OK. I'll just be a dragonborn, then. Warforged don't fit with the backstory I've come up with.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    OK. I'll just be a dragonborn, then. Warforged don't fit with the backstory I've come up with.

    Dragonborn come from these places that were transposed into Toril called Abeir. As far as I know most people on Toril identify them as largely honorable fellows who really, really hate Dragons (Abeir is apparently ruled and controlled by Dragons, with Dragonborn largely being enslaved to them).

  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Cool. Is Bahamut a FR god, and do DB like him or not?

    EDIT: Awesome, my surge is a third of my max HP. Nice.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    Cool. Is Bahamut a FR god, and do DB like him or not?

    Bahamut is a FR god and I don't believe they would have a problem with him, if they even acknowledged the Gods. Abeir actually was sort of a "Dead zone" Gods wise and so they didn't actually really know about it or had any influence there. Dragonborn from Abeir are only coming into contact with Gods now. There would probably be no conflict with being a follower of Bahamut, because he has ideals that Dragonborn would appreciate and find interesting.

    Being an "atheist" in FR is definitely possible as many from Abeir really don't know much about Gods and are suspicious of the whole "God" thing anyway.

    Edit: Yep, he's in there as a general God and his portfolio is "Justice", which definitely appeals to Dragonborn from Abeir.

  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Also to anyone playing, feel free to add me to your MSN:

    aegeri@hotmail.com

    If you use it. I can get another chat client if there is something that suits everyone better to. It's a bit more helpful for things than repeated posts for sorting out character details. Once you have your characters, we can talk about starting the campaign and what sort of things your character is doing in the region, how you come together, who you know starting out etc. This is pretty much a negotiation, I've already decided to move away from Waterdeep as a starting point and might move to the Sea of Fallen stars (especially as that is a big transitway for lots of different people/races).

  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/

    Here's the site with the sheets if anybody else needs it, I've started filling mine out.

  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Here's my backstory for Armisael, Dragonborn Barbarian. Some things'll probably need to be changed, like place names if we aren't starting in Waterdeep.
    Spoiler:
    TL;DR: Dragonborn with a bad temper is trying to earn money to afford a Remove Disease for his kid.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yes, this works fairly well and I can fit this into the campaign. I've changed the starting location to a smaller town outside of one of the major cities in Cormyr, which is located on the western edge of the Sea of Fallen Stars. Work in the docks area would have dried up, because in the time period of this campaign (which coincides with module 4 of my other IRL campaign I am running) there is another Seros war in the Sea Of Fallen Stars getting underway, so many docks and ports have been blockaded.

    It would thus make sense, if you agree, why your character would be going further afield in search of work. We will invariably in this campaign be moving west to Waterdeep (probably), so that would also fit with the general character concept and background as well. I also wanted events in Waterdeep to be more dramatic, hence I wanted to move all of that particular side of the campaign further back so you have some experience adventuring and such forth first (and more of a plot justification for events as well, good set up is good).

    You'll just need to tell me about this disease and such forth, how you want to resolve it and what sort of resolutions you find acceptable. Then I'll think about things from there.

  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Quick question. How long after the Spellplague does the story take place? I was going to have my character's parents meet during a relief effort to help the Spellscarred in the immediate wake of the event, but that timing might not be quite right.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Terrendos wrote: »
    Quick question. How long after the Spellplague does the story take place? I was going to have my character's parents meet during a relief effort to help the Spellscarred in the immediate wake of the event, but that timing might not be quite right.

    It's 100 years after the Spellplague and the current in game date is 1479 DR, The Year of the Ageless One. So it's been a wee while since the Spellplaugue.

  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Me and morning are working on a sort of joint backstory.
    Spoiler:

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    A bit of character backstory.
    Spoiler:

    Ack reg I didn't read yours first.

    You'll have to have swung by my monastary and pick me up to make yours work.

    It's why I left specific details ambiguous.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Everyone's posting their backstories? Fine, here's what I've got. See if you can spot the obvious reference to my NWN2 character:
    Spoiler:

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Uh-oh, Morning. Armisael doesn't like the clergy of Aumanator much. They've been badmouthing the spirits that give him power.

    I see conflict!

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  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Does he sound like the kind of close minded character who would badmouth spirits? Because I was trying to portray him as a non typical stick in the mud paladin. I read the backstory. I think he'd be fine with you, to be honest. Maybe he'd ask a few questions, but he'd definitely listen to your explanation.

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  • REG RyskREG Rysk Lord Rageface Rageington Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't see much of a problem.
    Spoiler:

    I think something like that will work. Brings you into the family, but you didn't live with us.

    I still think mine was a little ambiguous at least...I think I made it work, eh?

  • MorninglordMorninglord Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    REG Rysk wrote: »
    I don't see much of a problem.
    Spoiler:

    I think something like that will work. Brings you into the family, but you didn't live with us.

    I still think mine was a little ambiguous at least...I think I made it work, eh?

    That works.
    Spoiler:

    Waddya think?

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Does he sound like the kind of close minded character who would badmouth spirits? Because I was trying to portray him as a non typical stick in the mud paladin. I read the backstory. I think he'd be fine with you, to be honest. Maybe he'd ask a few questions, but he'd definitely listen to your explanation.
    Oh, I'm sure you'll be reasonable. Armisael just has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.

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