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[COH ON]Company of Heroes - Wherein We Grudgingly Accept A Balanced(ish) Game

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No, you can play if you only own the expansion, or if you only own the original. The expansion lets you play Panzer Elite and British, whereas the original lets you play American and Wehrmacht. That info's actually in the OP but don't worry, I'm the only one who read that (because I partially wrote it). Join our Steam group, even if you don't have it on Steam! Weeee. It's good for finding people who play.

    I actually did read the OP. It made it clear that the expansion was backwards compatible with the original, but I wasn't sure if the original was compatible with the expansion. Can I play against people that use the expansion armies? Or am I limited to playing against just the Americans and the Wehrmacht?

    Anyway, joining the steam group under the name Pious Flea. I'll install the game sometime later today, probably.

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah you can play against whoever you want as long as it's not me because I don't want to lose. The only thing the expansion/original game changes is what armies you have available to use and what single playe ryou can play.

  • CG FaggotryCG Faggotry Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    No, you can play if you only own the expansion, or if you only own the original. The expansion lets you play Panzer Elite and British, whereas the original lets you play American and Wehrmacht. That info's actually in the OP but don't worry, I'm the only one who read that (because I partially wrote it). Join our Steam group, even if you don't have it on Steam! Weeee. It's good for finding people who play.

    I actually did read the OP. It made it clear that the expansion was backwards compatible with the original, but I wasn't sure if the original was compatible with the expansion. Can I play against people that use the expansion armies? Or am I limited to playing against just the Americans and the Wehrmacht?

    Anyway, joining the steam group under the name Pious Flea. I'll install the game sometime later today, probably.

    Yes. It is forwards compatible, also.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Awesome, thanks.

    And don't worry, playing against me should inflate your ego quite nicely. At this point I probably suck so bad.

  • The Cow KingThe Cow King arf arf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Ok good my giant rant got deleted (Internet crashed!)

    In short Fuck Playing as Americans VS PE. SO MUCH RAGE! I still suck but still something should have worked but nothing did.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Ok good my giant rant got deleted (Internet crashed!)

    In short Fuck Playing as Americans VS PE. SO MUCH RAGE! I still suck but still something should have worked but nothing did.

    I know what you mean I feel so helpless in the early game when they have cars going everywhere and all I have are riflemen, who always seem to lose against PE infantry.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Just get in close to them or stay in green cover if they aren't. Don't engage if you can't win, and focus on capping and cutting them off.

  • The Cow KingThe Cow King arf arf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Just get in close to them or stay in green cover if they aren't. Don't engage if you can't win, and focus on capping and cutting them off.

    I had map control then a giant blob came out of no where and some how got my M8 killed in about a second :\. Along with all my infantry, now that you mentioned retreat paths in one of your SC's they all like to go all runway model infront of the enemy.

    It didn't help he was G43 slowing retreating sqauds. I really should have rammed his Ketten when I look back on it.

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  • Corp.ShephardCorp.Shephard Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I withdraw my support for T3 Blitzkrieg.

    Don't do it, kids.

    But.. I'm already hooked!

  • nefffffffffffnefffffffffff Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    so i got the original version of this game and i cannot for the life of me beat the mission where you have to defend the town for 15 minutes. It's like the third mission in. You know the one. It's SO FUCKING HARD. I keep getting to the point where I have like 30 seconds or a minute left, and then it is like "tee-hee, game over again! isn't that funny?" seriously fuck that shit.

    any tips for getting past it? i'd like to enjoy the rest of the game.

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  • SepahSepah Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    MG nest on each bridge, AT gun(or 2) per bridge, make sure any leftover airborne have Recoilless Rifles. Lots of sandbags to make sure all your units are in green cover, and mine each bridge as much as you can. The rightmost bridge usually has a detector guy come through and disable all your mines, however.

    When they start in with the artillery barrages, move everything back to the Church, set up your mgs and at guns covering all the approaches, and you should be set.

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    I don't think I've ever raged as hard as I just did. The amount of stupidity was so intense I couldn't eben think of words venomous enough to insult my team mates. I was literally choking on my own rage. I can only hope they all live in the same city and die in a tragic bus accident today, or tommorow. I'll pray to whatever dark god I have to.

    ah yes another night of LoL.
  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hmmm, I really want to play that mission again - it was great fun.

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  • hippofanthippofant Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The secret to the American campaign is to have your Riflemen pick up shreks, get them vet, and then never lose them. When they come at you with their tank horde, your shrekked-Riflemen horde from the last mission should be able to win handily. Last time I played that mission, I actually kept the Germans pinned in their spawn points with MGs, Shrekked Vet Riflemen, and a few Anti-Tank guns :P

  • weenusweenus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    A few friends of mine recently convinced me to buy CoH. It has a pretty steep learning curve but I still love it and consider it one of the best RTS's of all time. Quick question, on the Tales of Heroes videos, they keep referring to "the forums" that people discuss bugs and strategy on, any idea what forums they were talking about?

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    weenus wrote: »
    A few friends of mine recently convinced me to buy CoH. It has a pretty steep learning curve but I still love it and consider it one of the best RTS's of all time. Quick question, on the Tales of Heroes videos, they keep referring to "the forums" that people discuss bugs and strategy on, any idea what forums they were talking about?

    Probably GameReplays. There's a link in the OP.

  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Go back to your other WW2 RTS Tycho.

  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kinderparty finally gets accepted to college for the Fall of 09 year. Thank god it's over.

  • MaticoreMaticore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Care to share your destination?

    ALSO: When will we get the patch? This is becoming CoH Forever.

  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Eastern Kentucky University. It's where you go for your teaching degree in Kentucky.

    Also the patch has supposedly gone into its final stage of development. Whatever that means.

    Regardless, I say the patch comes in December.

  • MaticoreMaticore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    EKU, it sounds like an arabic epithet.

    ALSO: Patch will never come, scots to be OP in team games forever. News at 11.

  • Lord_MordjaLord_Mordja Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Today the new issue of pcgames arrived at my house; there's a preview about Tales of Valor. There will be a new multiplayer mode where you have to defend a village against the AI. Also there will be some new campaign, the Tiger-Campaign - you'll only control ONE Tiger and maybe some support troops, it'll play like an RTS with action-RPG elements like in Diablo (As you may remember I posted some stuff about the Tiger campaign some time ago, everything just as I predicted it to be ). The Tiger is manned by 4 guys, each of them having individual techniques in 4 different levels; having a higher level for your cannonier allows you to fire explosive rounds. Through different researches you can improve the driving- and firing-attributes of your tank. Things you earned in one mission will be taken to the next mission. In the preview they're also about a system which lets the AI only see what a real tank could see (that would be kinda cool, eh?)
    The others new campaigns are planned to take place in normandy and it's not sure if they're going to be like the new tiger campaign or like the old ones. (if I got it right...)
    In the review it says NOTHING about new factions, but about an intro taking place in Leningrad. Also they said, that the lead designer didn't want to talk about things like "russia" (not "russians"!) (yet...).
    They also said that they won't updated the Essence-Engine in the stand-alone-addon.
    More info to follow, have to read the review again (and again, and again and again...)

    Interesting.

    EDIT: Ugh...$30 for a new "campaign" and game mode? Forget it.

  • Tim JamesTim James Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Confirmed: http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewstory&threadid=92834

    I guess Relic got upset that TychoCelchuuu was playing with the new Soldiers: Heroes of World War II and wanted to bring him back.

    I'm sure they'll do a great job with it since they're a good developer.

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  • darksteeldarksteel Registered User
    edited November 2008
    A "direct-fire" feature? Looks like someone's been taking a few hints from Men of War. And three new campaigns? Sounds good, I'm in.

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  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Welcome our new strategy specialists, Kibbles, Calneon, Sjceran, 13laded, and Smokaz

    Joyous days. Gamereplays gains the cunning mind of yours truly.

    Though I fear my acceptance of the duty is in awkward times. What with the patch having been out so long.. creating new ideas and tips is going to be rough.

  • Tim JamesTim James Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Make your niche with introductory strategies then.

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  • The Cow KingThe Cow King arf arf Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait if the patch out? I vowed not to play till it came out. Since you know I got destroyed and I'd rather wait a bit and learn, then learn a bunch of stuff and have it change.

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  • KinderpartyKinderparty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    No patch, unfortunately. Which puts me in my awkward position. All the strats have been made!

  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Just make a guide for the upcoming release. Here, I'll help you.

    Whermacht:
    Pio spam to T3
    Puma spam to win

  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    2v2 Axis Strat:

    Grenadier spam to AC
    Pio spam w/ medic bunker to T3
    Puma/AC spam to win.

    That'll be $5.

  • SayNoToStimSayNoToStim Registered User
    edited November 2008
    Man tekdragon, with advice like that, you should have applied for a strategy specialist spot, too.

    oh wait.

  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Current state of balance:

    PE is horribly broken and anyone who plays them should be beaten and raped by large burly men. It's like Retadins circa 3.0.1 except they've been like this for a whole fucking year. Wehrmacht is reasonably tough with some bad gameplay mechanics (crappy T3, too much reward for losing units).

    British on St. Mere Dumont and Langres are about as stupid as PE. On the other hand, they're ludicrously underpowered on Semois and Beaux Lowlands cause of the resource layout. Only way to win as Americans is to strafe down the endless hordes of PGs and listen to scrub noobs QQ about how overpowered it is.

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  • Tim JamesTim James Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Man tekdragon, with advice like that, you should have applied for a strategy specialist spot, too.

    oh wait.
    Get the hell off this forum. Kinder already screws up the tournament balance!

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Actually they can balance each other out. Then we won't have to worry! It will be like the US and the USSR during the Cold War except they're both dirty Communists.

  • edited November 2008
    holy shit they announced Tales of Valor. man, we've been sitting on that one for-fucking-ever.

  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    holy shit they announced Tales of Valor. man, we've been sitting on that one for-fucking-ever.

    To be honest, I'm glad you aren't adding in any more sides. The Dawn of War model got more than a bit unwieldy by the end there.

  • Corp.ShephardCorp.Shephard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    holy shit they announced Tales of Valor. man, we've been sitting on that one for-fucking-ever.

    To be honest, I'm glad you aren't adding in any more sides. The Dawn of War model got more than a bit unwieldy by the end there.

    New sides sounded good to me. Bah!

    Oh well. Some new game types would certainly help. They've been promised three times now, once for a patch, then for Opposing Fronts, and now, hopefully, we'll get this one for Tales of Valor.

  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Man tekdragon, with advice like that, you should have applied for a strategy specialist spot, too.

    oh wait.

    What's funny is that I can use a similar summary to describe how 2v2 Axis teams are getting ridiculous win streaks and win/loss ratios in the current version.

    2xPE
    AC rush/spam
    Marder rush/spam

    PE/Wher
    AC rush/spam
    Medic bunker/AT gun

    Fact is that until the phase shifting bullshit is fixed with ACs and Puma, the competitive game is crap. Everyone whines about medic bunker spam but at least medic bunkers don't shift out of space and time to dodge any and all incoming fire.

  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Is the new Warhammer 40k going to use CoH's cover/suppression system? Or will they stick to the original's simple morale model with basic cover?

  • SayNoToStimSayNoToStim Registered User
    edited November 2008
    Tim James wrote: »
    Man tekdragon, with advice like that, you should have applied for a strategy specialist spot, too.

    oh wait.
    Get the hell off this forum. Kinder already screws up the tournament balance!

    =(

    I had to come put TekDragon in his place, though.

  • TekDragonTekDragon __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Tim James wrote: »
    Man tekdragon, with advice like that, you should have applied for a strategy specialist spot, too.

    oh wait.
    Get the hell off this forum. Kinder already screws up the tournament balance!

    =(

    I had to come put TekDragon in his place, though.

    You aren't going to put me in any place. Only a tool thinks the Whermacht pioneer/weapon crew MP40 buffs coupled with the new and improved* Puma will be anything but bullshit. 1-second arty has nothing on this.

    I haven't played Wher since they killed the StuG and I refused to go back to Axis when every half-assed lamer learned how to abuse ACs and medic bunkers. But if the current game goes live there's zero reason to play Allies. I'll micro my ACs and Pumas like shit and it won't matter - nothing will touch them.

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