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The American Presidency: Obama does not believe in prevent defense

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    kevindee wrote: »
    th....the hydro?


    edit: goddamnit, beaten

    http://www.thehydro.co.za/
    It is in South Africa. :P

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    God can run out of blessing guys.

    The sound of eight hooves reaches his ears, comes from the heavenly light, two wolves howls fills his heart with fear, and he sees two ravens fly. Down from the sky a warlord rides, like fire his one eye glows, and just before the preacher dies he knows his god is false.
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/10/06/DI2008100601933.html
    I wasn't at the Scranton event, but I have to say the Secret Service is in dangerous territory here. In cooperation with the Palin campaign, they've started preventing reporters from leaving the press section to interview people in the crowd. This is a serious violation of their duty -- protecting the protectee -- and gets into assisting with the political aspirations of the candidate. It also often makes it impossible for reporters to get into the crowd to question the people who say vulgar things. So they prevent reporters from getting near the people doing the shouting, then claim it's unfounded because the reporters can't get close enough to identify the person.
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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    God can run out of blessing guys.

    He only had a few thousand years to plant all those fossil fuels. Tight schedule.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    McCain airquoting "health":
    Spoiler:

    Fuck that's creepy.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous WALK 3X FASTER New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Well, it's a good thing that America has the hydro.
    By that metric, Quebec is holy ground.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Well, it's a good thing that America has the hydro.

    Well y'see that America is just so blessed y'know what with the gas and the oil and the wind and the hydro and the purple mountains ma-jes-tyyyy...

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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  • yakulyakul Registered User regular
    McCain airquoting "health":
    Spoiler:

    Fuck that's creepy.

    Someone should tell him that airquotes are traditionally done over your head.

  • VulpineVulpine Registered User
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Well, it's a good thing that America has the hydro.
    By that metric, Quebec is holy ground.

    Luckily, Palin knows all about Canada. They're right next door, after all.

    (I feel dirty.)

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  • KilroyKilroy Seer of Heart Registered User regular

    That article just confirms to me that pipe fitters are indeed the dumbest of the labor unions.

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  • PeekingDuckPeekingDuck __BANNED USERS
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

    Yeah, I mean, they've got all that... uh... desert wasteland.

    Solar power?

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  • reminderGTOreminderGTO Registered User
    Kilroy wrote: »

    That article just confirms to me that pipe fitters are indeed the dumbest of the labor unions.

    also Walmart


    Actually that article does a good job of describing what I've read repeatedly on Slate and Salon. That while there are many with terrible, terrible stereotypes of African-Americans, they still look to Obama as a hard-working, smart politician.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is almost if you have a huge area that makes up one of the largest countries, you will end up with a lot of natural resources.

  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

    Yeah, I mean, they've got all that... uh... desert wasteland.

    Solar power?

    Jellyfish-powered electric plants.

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  • I wanna make sure that I understand how Obama's tax plan will benefit the US. Given my near retarded lack of understand of economics, this is what I came up with.

    Let's consider the wealthy as those who control the means of production. America enjoys a capitalist economy. So, isn't the whole idea for them to produce, us to consume, so that they can produce more thus allowing us to consume more? We spend money, they make money. So, wouldn't it be logical to give tax breaks to the consumers as opposed to the producers, since the consumers are the ones who will most definitely and most efficiently put that money back into the economy? So, even though the wealthy may pay higher taxes... they'll be reaping higher profits from the working and middle classes who suddenly have more disposable income.

    Am I understanding this correctly?

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    tbloxham wrote: »
    This is indeed the stupidest conspiracy theory ever. This is even sillier than the plot of Eagle Eye, and thats saying a lot.

    If you have widespread corruption amongst poll voters they can simply...

    a) Spoil peoples votes and change their ballots
    b) Vote as people who don't show up, even if we get 70% turnout, just voting as half the remainder would swing any district

    You don't need to register new voters. In fact, doing so is insanely stupid. If the Democratic party somehow has nationwide control of the poll workers they wouldn't even need to campaign. They could run on a "We will make it obligatory to punch kittens" policy and still win.

    But then they'd get the dog lovers.

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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

    Yeah, I mean, they've got all that... uh... desert wasteland.

    Solar power?

    Actually, no. Australia's entire power grid is based on animals that CAN FUCKING KILL YOU. See, you throw a bunch of random people in a big pit and attach them to spokes of a giant turbine. You then let loose every animal Australia has to offer and as they run for their lives, it generates power.

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  • kevindeekevindee Registered User regular
    I wanna make sure that I understand how Obama's tax plan will benefit the US. Given my near retarded lack of understand of economics, this is what I came up with.

    Let's consider the wealthy as those who control the means of production. America enjoys a capitalist economy. So, isn't the whole idea for them to produce, us to consume, so that they can produce more thus allowing us to consume more? We spend money, they make money. So, wouldn't it be logical to give tax breaks to the consumers as opposed to the producers, since the consumers are the ones who will most definitely and most efficiently put that money back into the economy? So, even though the wealthy may pay higher taxes... they'll be reaping higher profits from the working and middle classes who suddenly have more disposable income.

    Am I understanding this correctly?



    from a logical standpoint, I think I'm safe in saying that's essentially how America will benefit from tickle-up economics, and this is essentially the gist of Obama's tax plan, yes. Although I could always be proven wrong.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »

    That article just confirms to me that pipe fitters are indeed the dumbest of the labor unions.

    The union was one of the first to endorse Obama? I posted this a couple days ago and I'm more inclined to attribute the attitudes to the location

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

    Yeah, I mean, they've got all that... uh... desert wasteland.

    Solar power?

    Actually, no. Australia's entire power grid is based on animals that CAN FUCKING KILL YOU. See, you throw a bunch of random people in a big pit and attach them to spokes of a giant turbine. You then let loose every animal Australia has to offer and as they run for their lives, it generates power.

    Vegemite power?

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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    I wanna make sure that I understand how Obama's tax plan will benefit the US. Given my near retarded lack of understand of economics, this is what I came up with.

    Let's consider the wealthy as those who control the means of production. America enjoys a capitalist economy. So, isn't the whole idea for them to produce, us to consume, so that they can produce more thus allowing us to consume more? We spend money, they make money. So, wouldn't it be logical to give tax breaks to the consumers as opposed to the producers, since the consumers are the ones who will most definitely and most efficiently put that money back into the economy? So, even though the wealthy may pay higher taxes... they'll be reaping higher profits from the working and middle classes who suddenly have more disposable income.

    Am I understanding this correctly?

    Yes, you've got it essentially.

    The Rich save their money. The poor spend it.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Australia is probably the most blessed in terms of energy resources over all.

    Yeah, I mean, they've got all that... uh... desert wasteland.

    Solar power?

    Jellyfish-powered electric plants.

    ...

    I don't know if this is possible, but I think it needs to be attempted.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    kevindee wrote: »
    I wanna make sure that I understand how Obama's tax plan will benefit the US. Given my near retarded lack of understand of economics, this is what I came up with.

    Let's consider the wealthy as those who control the means of production. America enjoys a capitalist economy. So, isn't the whole idea for them to produce, us to consume, so that they can produce more thus allowing us to consume more? We spend money, they make money. So, wouldn't it be logical to give tax breaks to the consumers as opposed to the producers, since the consumers are the ones who will most definitely and most efficiently put that money back into the economy? So, even though the wealthy may pay higher taxes... they'll be reaping higher profits from the working and middle classes who suddenly have more disposable income.

    Am I understanding this correctly?



    from a logical standpoint, I think I'm safe in saying that's essentially how America will benefit from tickle-up economics, and this is essentially the gist of Obama's tax plan, yes. Although I could always be proven wrong.

    Wouldn't that be the prostitution industry?

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  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    http://www.mccaincomics.com/

    Done by the toothpaste for dinner guy. There's some amusing ones.

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Tostitos wrote: »
    the pole workers

    Your voting locations sound much more interesting than mine. :winky:

    On the topic of "the death of public financing", does anyone think this might change the kind of candidates we see? For example, would it make more sense for the Republicans to nominate more people like Palin, in an effort to get the base to crack open the wallets, or would a more middling position would still be better?

    Of course I post this right before the crazy so no one catches it as they lock in on that. :P

    Thinking about it more though, I think it'd probably have to be someone closer to the middle. As good as Palin was to the Republican fund raising, she's been extra kind to the Democrats. (to say nothing of her other effects)

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    Tostitos wrote: »
    the pole workers

    Your voting locations sound much more interesting than mine. :winky:

    On the topic of "the death of public financing", does anyone think this might change the kind of candidates we see? For example, would it make more sense for the Republicans to nominate more people like Palin, in an effort to get the base to crack open the wallets, or would a more middling position would still be better?

    Of course I post this right before the crazy so no one catches it as they lock in on that. :P

    Thinking about it more though, I think it'd probably have to be someone closer to the middle. As good as Palin was to the Republican fund raising, she's been extra kind to the Democrats. (to say nothing of her other effects)

    You're forgetting that the republicans are too stupid to connect the dots.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    oh god some of my coworkers were talking about voter fraud and Obama the cheater and now I want to lobotomize myself

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    oh god some of my coworkers were talking about voter fraud and Obama the cheater and now I want to lobotomize myself

    Don't you live in liberalfornia?

  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Registered User regular
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Tostitos wrote: »
    the pole workers

    Your voting locations sound much more interesting than mine. :winky:

    On the topic of "the death of public financing", does anyone think this might change the kind of candidates we see? For example, would it make more sense for the Republicans to nominate more people like Palin, in an effort to get the base to crack open the wallets, or would a more middling position would still be better?

    Of course I post this right before the crazy so no one catches it as they lock in on that. :P

    Thinking about it more though, I think it'd probably have to be someone closer to the middle. As good as Palin was to the Republican fund raising, she's been extra kind to the Democrats. (to say nothing of her other effects)

    You're forgetting that the republicans are too stupid to connect the dots.

    Case in point, if Obama really is a terrorist than why hasn't the CIA and FBI done anything about it? Either 1. he's not and people are just fucking morons, 2. the FBI and CIA are more in the dark than several email chains, Fox pundits, racists and are hence incompetent, 3. Obama has infiltrated those organizations with secret liberal terrorist sympathizers in which case becoming President would likely be a step down in power.


    *sigh* I was just in a Gamestop where one of the register trolls was ranting about how Obama is a "literal terrorist" and "anti capitalist." :|

  • ShadowenShadowen Registered User regular
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Well, it's a good thing that America has the hydro.
    By that metric, Quebec is holy ground.

    Luckily, Palin knows all about Canada. They're right next door, doncha know.

    (I feel dirty.)

    Fixed for accuracy, and now I feel dirty.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You should have left without buying anything and said as you were leaving "Well I would have bought something but I don't want to be helping someone so stupid remain gainfully employed".

  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS
    Did we already talk about the weird robocalls from the McCain campaign in here?

    Anyone have any insight into that bold move?

  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User
    No-Quarter wrote: »
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Tostitos wrote: »
    the pole workers

    Your voting locations sound much more interesting than mine. :winky:

    On the topic of "the death of public financing", does anyone think this might change the kind of candidates we see? For example, would it make more sense for the Republicans to nominate more people like Palin, in an effort to get the base to crack open the wallets, or would a more middling position would still be better?

    Of course I post this right before the crazy so no one catches it as they lock in on that. :P

    Thinking about it more though, I think it'd probably have to be someone closer to the middle. As good as Palin was to the Republican fund raising, she's been extra kind to the Democrats. (to say nothing of her other effects)

    You're forgetting that the republicans are too stupid to connect the dots.

    Case in point, if Obama really is a terrorist than why hasn't the CIA and FBI done anything about it? Either 1. he's not and people are just fucking morons, 2. the FBI and CIA are more in the dark than several email chains, Fox pundits, racists and are hence incompetent, 3. Obama has infiltrated those organizations with secret liberal terrorist sympathizers in which case becoming President would likely be a step down in power.


    *sigh* I was just in a Gamestop where one of the register trolls was ranting about how Obama is a "literal terrorist" and "anti capitalist." :|

    There are a lot of dumbasses working at gamestops. Working at one, I would know -_-

    Not that it isn't obvious already.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Medopine wrote: »
    Did we already talk about the weird robocalls from the McCain campaign in here?

    Anyone have any insight into that bold move?

    Can't get actual phone banks going, resorting to cold unfeeling technology.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Medopine wrote: »
    Did we already talk about the weird robocalls from the McCain campaign in here?

    Anyone have any insight into that bold move?

    Robocalls don't require supporters to volunteer their time.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Medopine wrote: »
    Did we already talk about the weird robocalls from the McCain campaign in here?

    Anyone have any insight into that bold move?

    I don't understand people who listen to a robot on the telephone.

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Tostitos wrote: »
    the pole workers

    Your voting locations sound much more interesting than mine. :winky:

    On the topic of "the death of public financing", does anyone think this might change the kind of candidates we see? For example, would it make more sense for the Republicans to nominate more people like Palin, in an effort to get the base to crack open the wallets, or would a more middling position would still be better?

    Of course I post this right before the crazy so no one catches it as they lock in on that. :P

    Thinking about it more though, I think it'd probably have to be someone closer to the middle. As good as Palin was to the Republican fund raising, she's been extra kind to the Democrats. (to say nothing of her other effects)

    You're forgetting that the republicans are too stupid to connect the dots.

    Well, I think it applies to the 2016 Dem choice as well. I don't think people will be taking public financing again for the next 8 years, given what Obama was able to do with it. Unless it gots reformed I guess.

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    Medopine wrote: »
    Did we already talk about the weird robocalls from the McCain campaign in here?

    Anyone have any insight into that bold move?

    The guess is they don't have enough volunteers to actually make the calls so they are throwing money at the problem.

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