The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
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The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
Shut up, Drez. Shut up.
No.
Whoops! I got the volume mixed up. I meant Goosebumps #35.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
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Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
It can, however, describe the chemical processes behind what it's like to experience the chemical processes behind thought. Everything you ever think or feel is a chemical process and we're figuring them out one by one.
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The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
Shut up, Drez. Shut up.
No.
Whoops! I got the volume mixed up. I meant Goosebumps #35.
Better?
No.
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The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
Go to the real stuff for philosophy. I always say that a great introduction to philosophy is Plato's Republic and Aristotle's Metaphysics.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
:?
Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
It can, however, describe the chemical processes behind what it's like to experience the chemical processes behind thought. Everything you ever think or feel is a chemical process and we're figuring them out one by one.
See. I'm pretty sure this is a bad notion of science. Right?
The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
Shut up, Drez. Shut up.
No.
Whoops! I got the volume mixed up. I meant Goosebumps #35.
Better?
No.
You idiot, it was #45, not 35.
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The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
Shut up, Drez. Shut up.
No.
Whoops! I got the volume mixed up. I meant Goosebumps #35.
Plato's Republic is a great introduction to philosophy yes. It's the perfect example of how someone can start with some decent observations of social ills (wrong people - IE not ME - are in charge, dumbasses too often inherit money) and step by step construct a solution which is completely batfucking crazy.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
:?
Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
It can, however, describe the chemical processes behind what it's like to experience the chemical processes behind thought. Everything you ever think or feel is a chemical process and we're figuring them out one by one.
That's a philosophical statement, not a scientific one.
Whatever man. Enjoy sweating for The Man. For the poor. For God. For everyone. Go ahead and fear the censors. Be bound by petty morality. Be constrained by the small. Okay, meatbag?
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
:?
Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
It can, however, describe the chemical processes behind what it's like to experience the chemical processes behind thought. Everything you ever think or feel is a chemical process and we're figuring them out one by one.
That's a philosophical statement, not a scientific one.
You can't know what a person is thinking about just by analyzing the chemical reactions in their brains.
Well you can, but only in so broad a manner as to be pointless in this case.
You can't know what they're thinking by wondering about it, either. You can (ideally) know by interviewing them and studying their reactions, which would be psychology.
My impression of philosophers up to and including this conversation is that they are people whose interests are piqued by one or more sciences, but for whatever reason don't want to actually do the science.
I wonder what kind of chemical reaction causes scientists to investigate the fact that thoughts are all only chemical reactions.
My guess: a very complex one.
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I must say, my Political Theory class this year that is basically a Philosophy course is rather fun. We managed to spend half a class arguing a metaphysical point that the prof kind of didn't intend.
Talking of Descartes, I found out today that the pain model we used up until the sixties was pretty much exactly the one he first came up with. I was fascinated by the fact it lasted so long.
I wonder what kind of chemical reaction causes scientists to investigate the fact that thoughts are all only chemical reactions.
My guess: a very complex one.
A lot of people get moderate dopamine boosts when they solve puzzles. Most people, actually. So it's just a matter of having the patience to actually work through said puzzles.
So the simple answer is the same reason Zelda is so popular.
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I saw her today. She expressed a desire to hang out soon. And I'm going to see her at lunch tomorrow, where she works.
That is a nice fucking jacket.
The Fountainhead, of course.
Barring that, R.L. Stine's Goosebumps Vol. #37.
Shut up, Drez. Shut up.
No.
Whoops! I got the volume mixed up. I meant Goosebumps #35.
Better?
It can, however, describe the chemical processes behind what it's like to experience the chemical processes behind thought. Everything you ever think or feel is a chemical process and we're figuring them out one by one.
No.
Go to the real stuff for philosophy. I always say that a great introduction to philosophy is Plato's Republic and Aristotle's Metaphysics.
See. I'm pretty sure this is a bad notion of science. Right?
But I will let you know when I do, so you can learn the truth about life.
You idiot, it was #45, not 35.
WHAT.
NO.
My badz.
That's a philosophical statement, not a scientific one.
You're gonna have to stop philosophising.
That's cool
But there isn't.
Philosopher!
Well you can, but only in so broad a manner as to be pointless in this case.
You're talking about physics, right?
Whatever man. Enjoy sweating for The Man. For the poor. For God. For everyone. Go ahead and fear the censors. Be bound by petty morality. Be constrained by the small. Okay, meatbag?
Philosophy is just a chemical reaction
ergo my penis makes a lot of phallosophy.
True. It's possible, and things are slowly trending in this direction, that someday people will be able to. But right now it is indeed speculation.
You can't know what they're thinking by wondering about it, either. You can (ideally) know by interviewing them and studying their reactions, which would be psychology.
So where does philosophy enter this equation?
Me neither.
My guess: a very complex one.
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More like, anti-God machine.
A lot of people get moderate dopamine boosts when they solve puzzles. Most people, actually. So it's just a matter of having the patience to actually work through said puzzles.
So the simple answer is the same reason Zelda is so popular.