I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
So, in absence of our ability to scientifically determine why there are things rather than nothing, people just guess and speculate.
I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
A valid point for some of it, or rather some people within it.
When I studied it, I was quite ruthless on the applicability of it, especially ethics.
I used to get really annoyed at smug solipsists at parties.
"I don't exist? OK, in five seconds I'm gonna punch you in the neck. Don't duck."
Philosophy is like every other field of study really - some of the things people do within it are useless, and it's up to practitioners to justify the usefulness of it.
And, obviously, 'stuff needs to be useful to be justified' is a philosophical statement.
I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
So, in absence of our ability to scientifically determine why there are things rather than nothing, people just guess and speculate.
I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
So, in absence of our ability to scientifically determine why there are things rather than nothing, people just guess and speculate.
That's it? Seriously?
They have quite a little cottage-industry going in the creation of new words as well. But the real growth is in the redefinition of existing words such that the authors ideas are correct by default.
I don't understand what the purpose of philosophy is.
I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
So, in absence of our ability to scientifically determine why there are things rather than nothing, people just guess and speculate.
That's it? Seriously?
Rational but nonfalsifiable thought does not equal 'guessing and speculation'.
But what is it a field of study of? What is being studied? I could sit at home and smoke pot and wonder why things are, I don't need to take a course to do that. So there has to be more to it than that.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
But what is it a field of study of? What is being studied? I could sit at home and smoke pot and wonder why things are, I don't need to take a course to do that. So there has to be more to it than that.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
But what is it a field of study of? What is being studied? I could sit at home and smoke pot and wonder why things are, I don't need to take a course to do that. So there has to be more to it than that.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
It's the field of study of thought and knowledge.
You're philosophising right now.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
But what is it a field of study of? What is being studied? I could sit at home and smoke pot and wonder why things are, I don't need to take a course to do that. So there has to be more to it than that.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
It's the field of study of thought and knowledge.
You're philosophising right now.
This is a pretty awesome response.
I'd argue that it is a totally Cartesian response.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
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Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
:?
Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
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Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
Not yet, anyway.
Meh. That’s a boring argument, and best left to philosophy.
But what is it a field of study of? What is being studied? I could sit at home and smoke pot and wonder why things are, I don't need to take a course to do that. So there has to be more to it than that.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
It's the field of study of thought and knowledge.
You're philosophising right now.
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
If you don't like philosophy you should stop doing it.
Off you pop. Stop thinking about stuff and analysing it.
And no good scientist should use the word 'obviously'.
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I figure I could take a bear.
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edited October 2008
The first few pages of the Atheism thread actually invested upon me a greater respect for philosophy, which up until that point I thought of as pointless intellectual masturbation. It would be something I'd be interested in learning more about.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?
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I don't have the quote onhand, but Heidegger likes to think that philosophy constantly cycles around the question "why are there things rather than nothing?"
Basically, if it ain’t fact it’s philosophy of some sort.
Trying to figure out why things are. Not how they work, but why they are.
So, in absence of our ability to scientifically determine why there are things rather than nothing, people just guess and speculate.
That's it? Seriously?
A valid point for some of it, or rather some people within it.
When I studied it, I was quite ruthless on the applicability of it, especially ethics.
I used to get really annoyed at smug solipsists at parties.
"I don't exist? OK, in five seconds I'm gonna punch you in the neck. Don't duck."
Philosophy is like every other field of study really - some of the things people do within it are useless, and it's up to practitioners to justify the usefulness of it.
And, obviously, 'stuff needs to be useful to be justified' is a philosophical statement.
That's what I signed up for anyway.
They have quite a little cottage-industry going in the creation of new words as well. But the real growth is in the redefinition of existing words such that the authors ideas are correct by default.
Rational but nonfalsifiable thought does not equal 'guessing and speculation'.
Well, I shouldn't say more. Let me rephrase. There has to be something to it.
It's the field of study of thought and knowledge.
You're philosophising right now.
What
No, see, because studying thought and knowledge would be psychology, or neurology, or psychoneurology, because thought and knowledge are, obviously, neurological functions. If I wanted to study thought and knowledge I would major in one of those. What does a philosophy major actually study?
This is a pretty awesome response.
I'd argue that it is a totally Cartesian response.
But it is an AWESOME Cartesian response.
It's the one thing that I need
he's going to break into your house and steal your coat. STOP HIM.
Why are you doing Baron runs?
I'm tired of bacon rum
Irene, dost thou hatest me?
Science can describe the chemical processes behind thought, but they can’t describe what it’s actually like to think.
Haha, surely not, gentle Drez, why wouldst thou thinkst sost?
Not yet, anyway.
I shan't say. But know this, lass: Smoogles.
Mount.
This is ironically false. Because this week I've smiled perhaps more than in my entire past.
That's kind of a rude way to ask her to fuck you, man.
How goes things with you and your new lady friend?
If you don't like philosophy you should stop doing it.
Off you pop. Stop thinking about stuff and analysing it.
And no good scientist should use the word 'obviously'.
Any good books? Something broad, or maybe something about epistemology, or something narrow but easily understood on its own?