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GPIA7R

Torrents.. so.... slow....

jonxp

By the way, someone mentioned that there would be an upgrade path between the RC and the RTM. This is not the case:

Micrsoft's MSDN Mailer wrote:

Please note: All users of the Windows 7 Release Candidate (including Windows Vista users who have upgraded to the Release Candidate) must do a clean installation of Windows 7 RTM. Please keep this is mind as you consider downloading the Release Candidate as opposed to waiting for the general availability release.

xzzy

Well, the RTM version isn't until October, so there's still several months to experiment with the RC.

GPIA7R

What will the difference between the RC and RTM be? I'm considering just installing the RC now until June 2010 (ideally... sure, something may come up in which I decide to just install the full version [like finding it free])

Anyone coming from Vista 64 to Win7 RC 64 have any issues with 2ndary/tertiary SATA drives not working properly?

LaCabra

I just installed this and it took fifteen minutes, and got all my drivers, no problems. How grand.

xzzy

GPIA7R wrote: »

What will the difference between the RC and RTM be?

You gotta pay for the RTM. The RC comes with all the bells and whistles, the shipping version will have all the wacky price options in play.

xzzy

Bwahaha you still have to reboot after changing workgroups? I beg you Microsoft: why must this be?

GPIA7R

So... thinking... that in the next couple minutes just going to reformat with Win7 RC... leave all this Vista Ent. 64 behind me.... ('cept the ghost image of the fresh install, just in case.)

I need one final push of encouragement and imminent awesomeness, though.

RBach

xzzy wrote: »

GPIA7R wrote: »

What will the difference between the RC and RTM be?

You gotta pay for the RTM. The RC comes with all the bells and whistles, the shipping version will have all the wacky price options in play.

While that's true that certainly won't be the only change between the RC and RTM. As someone pointed out earlier, Microsoft likes to change a lot of things between its "release candidates" and the shipping version. We simply can't say what those changes will be yet. Besides, I doubt you'll get any actual support from MS for non-final builds of Windows 7 and I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that they won't even provided security patches once 7 is finalized. Are we even going to get them now?

xzzy

GPIA7R wrote: »

So... thinking... that in the next couple minutes just going to reformat with Win7 RC... leave all this Vista Ent. 64 behind me.... ('cept the ghost image of the fresh install, just in case.)

I need one final push of encouragement and imminent awesomeness, though.

I just did it with XP.. haven't regretted it yet.

I didn't even have to go hunt down video drivers. Been a long fucking time since that has ever been true. It sees all my toslink and spdif audio outputs as well.

LaCabra

RBach wrote: »

xzzy wrote: »

GPIA7R wrote: »

What will the difference between the RC and RTM be?

You gotta pay for the RTM. The RC comes with all the bells and whistles, the shipping version will have all the wacky price options in play.

While that's true that certainly won't be the only change between the RC and RTM. As someone pointed out earlier, Microsoft likes to change a lot of things between its "release candidates" and the shipping version. We simply can't say what those changes will be yet. Besides, I doubt you'll get any actual support from MS for non-final builds of Windows 7 and I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that they won't even provided security patches once 7 is finalized. Are we even going to get them now?

Yes.

Ayulin

Hmm. Installed the RC on my desktop, and now Sleep is broken. It worked fine in the Beta, but now it just does everything short of actually going into Sleep (the case fans and lights remain on and the hard drive access light is lit up constantly, although I can hear the hard drive spooling down). I've no option but to manually turn off the system completely by holding the power button, although it acts like it's coming out of Hibernate on the next boot.

Any ideas? Running an Asus P5Q-E board.

unpurposed

Ayulin wrote: »

Hmm. Installed the RC on my desktop, and now Sleep is broken. It worked fine in the Beta, but now it just does everything short of actually going into Sleep (the case fans and lights remain on and the hard drive access light is lit up constantly, although I can hear the hard drive spooling down). I've no option but to manually turn off the system completely by holding the power button, although it acts like it's coming out of Hibernate on the next boot.

Any ideas? Running an Asus P5Q-E board.

I have that same problem with the same motherboard in Vista.

Suds

xzzy wrote: »

GPIA7R wrote: »

So... thinking... that in the next couple minutes just going to reformat with Win7 RC... leave all this Vista Ent. 64 behind me.... ('cept the ghost image of the fresh install, just in case.)

I need one final push of encouragement and imminent awesomeness, though.

I just did it with XP.. haven't regretted it yet.

I didn't even have to go hunt down video drivers. Been a long fucking time since that has ever been true. It sees all my toslink and spdif audio outputs as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoqDYcCDOTg

Ayulin

unpurposed wrote: »

Ayulin wrote: »

Hmm. Installed the RC on my desktop, and now Sleep is broken. It worked fine in the Beta, but now it just does everything short of actually going into Sleep (the case fans and lights remain on and the hard drive access light is lit up constantly, although I can hear the hard drive spooling down). I've no option but to manually turn off the system completely by holding the power button, although it acts like it's coming out of Hibernate on the next boot.

Any ideas? Running an Asus P5Q-E board.

I have that same problem with the same motherboard in Vista.

Hrm. Didn't have issues under Vista that I recall (it's been a while)... Meh.

Seeks

I'm sure this has been asked a billion times, but... how do you suppose it would run on a laptop with 1 gig of ram (AMD 3800 cpu)? Also, I don't suppose games like Baldur's Gate, etc. would work on a 64-bit install, would they?

RBach

Any 32 bit Windows application should work, but that's definitely not a guarantee. I don't know about Baldur's Gate specifically so you'll have to try it yourself, but I've had pretty good luck with everything I've tried on 64 bit XP/Vista/7.

jonxp

Generally the only things you'll have a problem with are drivers, or software that requires drivers, that either aren't signed, or just don't play well with 64-bit Windows.

GPIA7R

Suds wrote: »

xzzy wrote: »

GPIA7R wrote: »

So... thinking... that in the next couple minutes just going to reformat with Win7 RC... leave all this Vista Ent. 64 behind me.... ('cept the ghost image of the fresh install, just in case.)

I need one final push of encouragement and imminent awesomeness, though.

I just did it with XP.. haven't regretted it yet.

I didn't even have to go hunt down video drivers. Been a long fucking time since that has ever been true. It sees all my toslink and spdif audio outputs as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoqDYcCDOTg

...

What movie is that?

xzzy

Starsky & Hutch.

It's moderately amusing, worth a rent.

Drez

Someone help me out here. I've googled, but I'm confused.

I have a new Eee PC (the 1000HE). It doesn't have a solid state hard drive, but it does have two normal partitions (C: and D:). D: is completely unused/blank. So I assume I can install Windows 7 do it and dualboot.

My question, though, is how to install Windows 7. There's no optical drive in the Eee PC and I don't have a USB one handy. I might have a USB caddy around somewhere but finding in this mess of shit I have is not a thrilling prospect. I've heard that you can make an SD card bootable with Windows 7 install files. Anyone have any experience with this and can point me in the right direction?

Also, can I wipe the SD card after?

bigwah

No flash drive?

ArcticMonkey

Drez wrote: »

Someone help me out here. I've googled, but I'm confused.

I have a new Eee PC (the 1000HE). It doesn't have a solid state hard drive, but it does have two normal partitions (C: and D:). D: is completely unused/blank. So I assume I can install Windows 7 do it and dualboot.

My question, though, is how to install Windows 7. There's no optical drive in the Eee PC and I don't have a USB one handy. I might have a USB caddy around somewhere but finding in this mess of shit I have is not a thrilling prospect. I've heard that you can make an SD card bootable with Windows 7 install files. Anyone have any experience with this and can point me in the right direction?

Also, can I wipe the SD card after?

Ubuntu has a "Make USB Startup Disk" program that accepts *.iso files as input that I used to make a bootable USB to install Ubuntu on an EEE. Which might work with an SD card, but I have no idea how SD cards is accessed is compatible with how USB is accessed.
If you don't want to mess too much around with Ubuntu, VirtualBox and a preinstalled image should be faster.

Drez

bigwah wrote: »

No flash drive?

There's an 8 gig one here, but we can't find it right now. I have a new 8 gig SD card handy, though. Still looking for the flash drive.

ArcticMonkey wrote: »

Drez wrote: »

Someone help me out here. I've googled, but I'm confused.

I have a new Eee PC (the 1000HE). It doesn't have a solid state hard drive, but it does have two normal partitions (C: and D:). D: is completely unused/blank. So I assume I can install Windows 7 do it and dualboot.

My question, though, is how to install Windows 7. There's no optical drive in the Eee PC and I don't have a USB one handy. I might have a USB caddy around somewhere but finding in this mess of shit I have is not a thrilling prospect. I've heard that you can make an SD card bootable with Windows 7 install files. Anyone have any experience with this and can point me in the right direction?

Also, can I wipe the SD card after?

Ubuntu has a "Make USB Startup Disk" program that accepts *.iso files as input that I used to make a bootable USB to install Ubuntu on an EEE. Which might work with an SD card, but I have no idea how SD cards is accessed is compatible with how USB is accessed.
If you don't want to mess too much around with Ubuntu, VirtualBox and a preinstalled image should be faster.

Thanks, I'll look into that.

CL4usVALCA

Drez wrote: »

Someone help me out here. I've googled, but I'm confused.

I have a new Eee PC (the 1000HE). It doesn't have a solid state hard drive, but it does have two normal partitions (C: and D:). D: is completely unused/blank. So I assume I can install Windows 7 do it and dualboot.

My question, though, is how to install Windows 7. There's no optical drive in the Eee PC and I don't have a USB one handy. I might have a USB caddy around somewhere but finding in this mess of shit I have is not a thrilling prospect. I've heard that you can make an SD card bootable with Windows 7 install files. Anyone have any experience with this and can point me in the right direction?

Also, can I wipe the SD card after?

Here are the steps to get Windows 7 installer on a USB drive. I would assume that it works with a SD drive as well. Commands are in bold
1. Insert the USB drive or SD card
2. Open an administrator (Run as administrator if UAC is enabled) command prompt or powershell
3. Run diskpart
4. list disk
5. select disk # (# being the USBor SD drive) you can use the "detail disk" command once the disk is selected to view the partition info and drive letter
6. once you've verified that it is the right disk run the clean command
7.create parttion primary
8. format label="whatever you want to name it" fs=ntfs quick
9. active This makes the partition an active primary drive.
10.exit
11. In the command prompt cd to the location of the Win 7 files. If you mount the iso in a virtual drive or unpack the iso with WinRAR or 7-zip you can browse to the folder you placed them in.
12. cd to the boot folder
13. Enter bootsect.exe /nt60 d: "d: is the drive letter of the USB stick or SD card that winddows has assigned to it, it could be e: or f: or whatever. d: is just an example. This command writes out the bootsector to make it a bootable disk
14. Copy over all of the folders and files in the root of the Win 7 install folder or disk to the USB stick or thumbdrive
15. Reboot and boot from the USB or SD drive
16.Install Windows 7
17. Rock Out!!

You can just format the SD card after you are finished.

Mustachio Jones

When 7000 came out, I distinctly remember using my 8gb SDHC card to boot the install off of. I think. Definitely worth a shot. Only thing you have to lose is time, pretty much.

Drez

Thanks, guys! So the Eee PC will know to boot from the SDHC? I admit I haven't played around in BIOS much yet.

CL4usVALCA

It should be a selectable drive in the boot menu. You should have to hit ESC or something when the BIOS screen comes up.

Mustachio Jones

You can definitely select it as a boot device, it's just whether or not Win7 plays nice with it. I know for a fact you can't install 7 to a removable device, so.

GPIA7R

Got an unexpected error during Windows 7 DVD install... Code was 0xE0000100

Going to try from USB install now -_-

REALLY don't want to retorrent the image.

Mustachio Jones

You vLite it? I ran into a similar problem with removed components.

GPIA7R

Posting from my new Windows 7 64-bit RC

I'm a happy person right now.

The USB install worked great

Drez

Hmm...I cannot seem to connect to my wireless network in Win7.

(BTW, the install from SDHC worked great. Thanks everyone, especially CL4usVALCA with the step-by-step instructions!)

Big Dookie

The only real issue I'm having is that I can NOT do a Windows Experience Index for some reason. I'm thinking it has something to do with my video drivers, but I don't know. I'll have to keep messing with it. It will start the index, and then just sit there for hours and hours on end. Anyone else have this issue?

DigDug2000

I haven't had a machine to run this on since it came out. If someone else wants to make a new thread for this, maybe with some useful information for people downloading the RC, feel free to do so.

Rikushix

Yeah, I plan on building a gaming computer in the next few weeks, and I'm curious about my options. Could I download the RC and use it as my OS?

Jasconius

If you have a key, yes.

They haven't started giving out keys again. They will start on the 5th.

LaCabra

You can install it now, though, without a key, and enter it later (within 30 days).

wunderbar

the keys for the beta work for it, and can be found in this thread.

xzzy

I got a key from their website 2 days ago.. have they since disabled that?