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White Culture in Peril: The Glorification of Thug Life

The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hopRegistered User regular
edited October 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.mobmovielessons.com/

An entire book dedicated to the "lessons" to be learned from films about criminality, violence, organized crime, and all around degeneracy? Being a criminal is "cool" now with white kids? Maybe if it wasn't for things like this, we wouldn't have Kenneth Lay, we wouldn't have Ted Stevens, thinking their above the law and stealing large sums of money from their own community.

It's time for white culture to stop pointing the finger all over and take some responsibility for itself. If we're going to vote The Godfather as the greatest movie of all time, if we're going to say Sopranos is the best TV show ever made, if we're going to give Oscars to guys like Martin Scorsese who made Goodfellas and Casino (not to mention Taxi Driver which is a whole degenerate, negative, terrible influence on the kids all by itself), then we can't just sit around and shrug our shoulders when people like Ted Stevens uses upper level connection to steal money for himself.

We need leadership within. We need to take responsibility for what we've done.

I mean, publishing books about what we can learn from fictionalized, exaggerated, glorified accounts of organized criminality? And it's any wonder how guys like Dick Cheney and George Bush think they can wiretap whomever they like, fire and hire judges as they please, initiate quasi-legal invasions, torture convicts at their whim, and tromp all over the Constitution whenever they get bored.

It's time that whites stopped pointing fingers, and started taking responsibilities for themselves.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    An entire book dedicated to the "lessons" to be learned from films about criminality, violence, organized crime, and all around degeneracy?
    You can learn a lot from them. Most of it is what not to do, but still. For example, don't be a paranoid nutjob.

  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Man, saying that something is entertaining is by no means a stamp of approval on the acts depicted therein.

  • DHSDHS Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    God, you're a wiener.

    Show me the evidence of causation or even strong correlation, then I'll debate this issue; as it stand you seem to be treating all of society like retarded children, and assigning blame to a peripheral cultural issue.

    Provide a convincing argument, please, not a histrionic rant.

    "Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wait, what does this have to do with white people other than that book in particular?

    If that woman's cleavedge made one more person pick the game up off the shelf, it was a net positive for microprose. And to be blunt, if taking her top off could have increased sales enough to get a sequel, I'd endorse it 100000% because I like playing great games.
  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Edit: mrraaaaap

  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It shouldn't have taken 6 replies to figure out that he's satirizing people who blame black violence on black media.

    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    It shouldn't have taken 6 replies to figure out that he's satirizing people who blame black violence on black media.
    See, I can't be sure of this. It's GEM.

    If that woman's cleavedge made one more person pick the game up off the shelf, it was a net positive for microprose. And to be blunt, if taking her top off could have increased sales enough to get a sequel, I'd endorse it 100000% because I like playing great games.
  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Now I can't help but wonder how people would view the Bloods and Crips if they wore tuxes.

    With gang-appropriately colored cummerbunds of course.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    Jesus Christ people, it's cel.

    Think about it.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    It shouldn't have taken 6 replies to figure out that he's satirizing people who blame black violence on black media.
    :P

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  • DHSDHS Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    It shouldn't have taken 6 replies to figure out that he's satirizing people who blame black violence on black media.

    Not particularly well.

    Oh well, I'm a rube anyway.

    "Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    DHS wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    It shouldn't have taken 6 replies to figure out that he's satirizing people who blame black violence on black media.

    Not particularly well.

    Oh well, I'm a rube anyway.

    I probably shouldn't have been so snarky about it.

    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
  • VariableVariable Detective of Perspective Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    yay thread.

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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, was he hoping one of these people that blame black media for black violence to actually show up?

    If that woman's cleavedge made one more person pick the game up off the shelf, it was a net positive for microprose. And to be blunt, if taking her top off could have increased sales enough to get a sequel, I'd endorse it 100000% because I like playing great games.
  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Freakonomics had a pretty decent analysis at just how shitty most of the basic level criminal jobs are. Making below minimum wage standing outside at 3 am with the risk of getting shot or going to prison. I think the fact that a lot of the rich black men that a lot of these kids see are some of the ones that did manage to get rich off dealing drugs is part of the allure of the lifestyle. That is really more of a problem with an absence of role models, good education, and non shitty jobs in poor urban areas then one of media though.

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    So, was he hoping one of these people that blame black media for black violence to actually show up?
    Seems like it usually happens here.

    Dis' wrote: »
    Cancer is when cells stop letting the body mooch off their hard work - clearly a community of like-minded cells should isolate themselves and do the best job each can do, even if the rest of the body collapses!
  • L*2*G*XL*2*G*X Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    old boys? home boys? don't tell me Ted Stevens ain't a n****, aiight?

    I was teaching teh english last week and one of my students, african from Benin, was making the point that African Americans have lost so much- and that Gangsta-Rap is not exactly a good way to restore their identity.

    Which rang a vague bell in the back of my head, some WASP conspiracy to boost Gangsta?

    lemme google awhile...

  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    No need, and not really a conspiracy - the biggest market for gangsta rap in the US is white teens. Should be common knowledge at this stage. Think of this thread as a less catchy 'Rockin' the Suburbs' ;)

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  • L*2*G*XL*2*G*X Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    all I could dig up was old Clement Greenberg single-handedly starting the Starbucks/Apple empire with CIA dough, but hey, the black panthers were wearing berets, too, you know...

  • WulfWulf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Robots are people 10!
    Also, The Gods Must be Crazy...
    :lol:

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    So, was he hoping one of these people that blame black media for black violence to actually show up?
    Seems like it usually happens here.

    im not exactly sure what is meant by the black media... is that like BET or is it referring to black culture....

    i dont blame BET for gang violence thats for sure.

    Mental midgets kill my inner child.
  • geckahngeckahn Registered User
    edited October 2008
    This thread is a joke right?

  • plufimplufim Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    No need, and not really a conspiracy - the biggest market for gangsta rap in the US is white teens. Should be common knowledge at this stage. Think of this thread as a less catchy 'Rockin' the Suburbs' ;)
    :^:


    Hope I'm not the only one to get that.

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User
    edited October 2008
    plufim wrote: »
    The Cat wrote: »
    No need, and not really a conspiracy - the biggest market for gangsta rap in the US is white teens. Should be common knowledge at this stage. Think of this thread as a less catchy 'Rockin' the Suburbs' ;)
    :^:


    Hope I'm not the only one to get that.

    Ben folds is my boy. Also, his cover of bitches aint shit.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think the OP really missed the point of lots of crime movies

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Most of the people in crime movies tend to die or get caught. Not a lot get away in the end, except for Keyser Soze.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User
    edited October 2008
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Now I can't help but wonder how people would view the Bloods and Crips if they wore tuxes.

    With gang-appropriately colored cummerbunds of course.

    If Bloods and Crips wore denim overalls and straw hats we'd call them rednecks and hillbillies.

  • BrianDouglasBrianDouglas Registered User
    edited October 2008
    BubbaT wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Now I can't help but wonder how people would view the Bloods and Crips if they wore tuxes.

    With gang-appropriately colored cummerbunds of course.

    If Bloods and Crips wore denim overalls and straw hats we'd call them rednecks and hillbillies.

    huh, and all this time I assumed they were Bloods and Crypts...

  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wait, GEM is celery? That explains a whole hells of a lot.


    Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
    get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
    have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
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