MotW 11/5/2008 - Fraction, always Fraction

deadonthestreet

Batman isn't a supervillain?

PaperFootball

Keith wrote: »

Munch wrote: »

They've fixed Two-Face's scarring like, three times. Each time his psychosis resurfaces and he scars himself again.

As for Barbara Gordon's legs, Prometheus straight-up volunteered to fix her legs. You'd think that, after he'd been jailed, Batman might have gone through his technology and looked for some kind of spine-Spackle.

Barbara turned Prometheus down, though. Why would she say yes to Batman?

Because Prometheus wanted her to sell out the JLA

Keith

Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom #1 was all right. The art was pretty enough, although very static. I just don't think they could have picked a worse time to put this story out. We're in the middle of a Superman-line crossover and Final Crisis is changing all the Fourth World stuff.

DouglasDanger

Man, Fearless Fosdick headshots dudes like nobody's business and he does it for the children!

I didn't buy any comics this week, but I found that, so motw for me.

Darklyre

If anyone's been reading Secret Six, #3 reveals what the card actually is. It's actually a very neat and tidy concept for why everyone would be willing to killmaimburn for it:

Spoiler:

The card, as made by Neron, literally says "Get out of Hell free."

fray

I haven't even read anything yet but I'm pretty confident in saying Marvel Zombies 3 is going to be my motw.

mugginns

Darklyre wrote: »

If anyone's been reading Secret Six, #3 reveals what the card actually is. It's actually a very neat and tidy concept for why everyone would be willing to killmaimburn for it:

Spoiler:

The card, as made by Neron, literally says "Get out of Hell free."

Yeah Secret Six was really awesome this week.

The Ragin' Canadian

mugginns wrote: »

Darklyre wrote: »

If anyone's been reading Secret Six, #3 reveals what the card actually is. It's actually a very neat and tidy concept for why everyone would be willing to killmaimburn for it:

Spoiler:

The card, as made by Neron, literally says "Get out of Hell free."

Yeah Secret Six was really awesome this week.

I love Gail Simone... really do. The conversation between Ragdoll and Deadshot made me laugh out loud:

Spoiler:

D - " Huh. On second thought, my prom went a lot like that, actually."
R - " I took my sister to prom."
D - " Listen, you don't gotta tell me these types of..."
R - " My lips are sealed. But it was a mystical revelation."

mugginns

The Ragin' Canadian wrote: »

mugginns wrote: »

Darklyre wrote: »

If anyone's been reading Secret Six, #3 reveals what the card actually is. It's actually a very neat and tidy concept for why everyone would be willing to killmaimburn for it:

Spoiler:

The card, as made by Neron, literally says "Get out of Hell free."

Yeah Secret Six was really awesome this week.

I love Gail Simone... really do. The conversation between Ragdoll and Deadshot made me laugh out loud:

Spoiler:

D - " Huh. On second thought, my prom went a lot like that, actually."
R - " I took my sister to prom."
D - " Listen, you don't gotta tell me these types of..."
R - " My lips are sealed. But it was a mystical revelation."

Yeah I laughed really hard at that one. I don't know a whole lot about most of the main characters, but I'm glad I don't really have to. Plus I love the art in the series so far.

Keith

Ragdoll had a lot of good lines in this issue

Spoiler:

Bane's concerned with the health of Scandal's colon.

Jacobkosh

DouglasDanger wrote: »

Man, Fearless Fosdick headshots dudes like nobody's business and he does it for the children!

I didn't buy any comics this week, but I found that, so motw for me.

Fearless Fosdick is the fucking man. I have a huge trade of those strips produced by Fantagraphics back in the day.

SalmonOfDoubt

Mai-Kero wrote: »

Did anyone read Authority?

Spoiler:

Was that one of the motherfuckers from Sliding Albion?

I'm pretty sure it was. Between that, the Engineer's garden in Wildcats and The High's role in Number of the Beast, they're really mining the old Ellis stuff for the Stormwatch relaunch. Not that that's nscerrily bad, mind.

edit: And Gamorra dicking around in the back-up story

Darklyre

Holy fucking shit, anyone read Punisher War Journal Annual #1?

I was tripping balls reading that.

Me Too!

FCD wrote: »

Balefuego wrote: »

Lucascraft wrote: »

I would agree that Invincible Iron Man was great.

Although it pissed me off all over again with the whole Brand New Day bullcrap, because all that stuff about Tony telling Peter that he should unmask and register already happened! Did the totally badass Stark Tech Spider suit just never happen? Because damn. Stupid!

It still happaned, Tony remembers that Peter worked for him. Tony remembers that he worked together with Spidey, but he is unable to connect the two together or remember that Peter is Spider-Man.

Why no one remembers his identity is going to be explained in a big Spidey story that starts early next year.

And, as I've said before, I think it's fantastic that we're getting some concrete information about how the new status quo works over a year after it actually started. You're doin' a heckuva job, Joey.

And they told us how the status quo would work before that.
People remember him unmasking. They don't remember who he is.

Me Too!

Also that Peter and MJ never got married, although they did have a relationship until recently
All the stories happened, just they weren't married, so we didn't retcon out the Clone Saga
And the deal was made so that Aunt May would be alive so I mean that's a pretty easy one to figure out

Faynor

As much I hate OMD, Aunt May, BND, and everything in between, let's not do this to another thread.

Balefuego

My moment of the week was all of Gigantic


everyone go read this book

Crimsondude

Faynor wrote: »

As much I hate OMD, Aunt May, BND, and everything in between, let's not do this to another thread.

I will set the next person who starts this shit again on fire with my blood vomit.

Me Too!

I'm not trying to start anything
I'm saying that his complaint is dumb because it's like "well it's nice of them to finally tell us something they told us when it started!"

Faynor

"What the fuck? Spider-Man is Peter Parker? When the shit did this happen? Thanks, Marvel."

Robos A Go Go

Hardball's choice in the Initiative didn't ring true for me, but it was still a pretty cool issue.

Faynor

I still haven't gotten to read that, writing a paper. What did he choose?

Robos A Go Go

Faynor wrote: »

I still haven't gotten to read that, writing a paper. What did he choose?

Spoiler:

As you may recall, Hardball got his abilities from the Power Broker and has been a double agent in the Initiative ever since, first for Power Broker and later for Hydra. In this issue, Hydra has Hardball find out how Komodo gained access to Curt Connors' Lizard serum so they can duplicate it and inject it into its soldiers. In exchange, they'll heal Hardball's brother, who is a quadriplegic.

Hardball agrees and asks Komodo where she stole the formula from. She guesses he wants this information to cure his brother, so she gives him a false location and meets him there. When he arrives, they argue, and he reveals to her that he's working for HYDRA and that he fell for her before he even knew he'd need her help. She agrees to isolate the formula in her own blood for him so he won't have to break the law, but behind her back she warns the Initiative about Hardball's planned meeting with Hydra so they can stage an ambush.

At the exchange, the Initiative attacks the Hydra leader Hardball has arranged to meet. The Hydra leader injects himself with the formula so he can cover Hydra's retreat while Hardball, believing he's been betrayed, locks Komodo in one of his bubbles. She tells him that she told the Initiative that he was setting up Hydra and tells him they can heal his brother, but Hardball decides he can't be with her because he's really a bad guy and will just drag her down. So, per Hydra's rules about promotions, Hardball kills the Hydra leader and takes his place before ordering the Hydra troops to retreat, leaving Komodo and the Initiative behind.

Faynor

Spoiler:

That seems so disingenuous. He's made it clear a few times he's only working for Hydra because he has to. She gave him a way out, he should have taken it

Robos A Go Go

Faynor wrote: »

Spoiler:

That seems so disingenuous. He's made it clear a few times he's only working for Hydra because he has to. She gave him a way out, he should have taken it

Spoiler:

And they're terrorists! Even if they can guarantee that they'll heal his brother, he's gonna have to kill tons of people to earn that trust.

fray

Spoiler:

Yeah, that sucks. Why was he working for them in the first place? Because they could take away his powers?

Robos A Go Go

fray wrote: »

Spoiler:

Yeah, that sucks. Why was he working for them in the first place? Because they could take away his powers?

It is later revealed that Roger was given his powers by the Power Broker. Hardball was then forced to work for the Power Broker, and was ordered to rob an armored car. He used his new powers to knock the car down while coincidentally a little girl entered the street at that time, in the path of the the car. Wonder Man, who just happened to be flying by misinterpreted this as an act of heroism, and swiftly recruited him into the initiative. The Power Broker then sold his "contract" to HYDRA, whose commander is the man who saved him in the bar, Congressman Woodman, which means HYDRA has a double-agent within the Initiative.[7]

Spoiler:

In the recent issue, Hardball rejects Hydra's orders only to relent when Woodman says he can heal Hardball's paralyzed brother.

Munch

Balefuego wrote: »

My moment of the week was all of Gigantic

everyone go read this book

I was wondering how that was. The preview looked cool. While I'm at it, how was the X-Men/Spider-Man thing?

Balefuego

The X-Men/Spider-Man thing was fun, Gage captured the silver age feel really well without having to resort to clunky dialouge and overexposition.

I'm looking forward to his takes on the other eras.

Faynor

Are the 90s one of the times he's doing?

Balefuego

X-MEN/SPIDER-MAN #3 (of 4)
Written by CHRISTOS N. GAGE
Pencils & Cover by MARIO ALBERTI
We take you back to the days of grungy 90s as The X-Men and Spider-Man face off against Mr. Sinister and Carnage! But this Spidey isn't Peter Parker--it's Ben Reilly, the Spider-Clone! And Wolverine's claws are made of bone, not adamantium! It's radical...it's extreme...and if we coulda put a chromium cover on it, we would have! Put down your pogs and pick this up if only to feast your eyes on Mario Alberti's art! It'll make you say "Cowabunga, dude!"

FCD

Pouches as far as the eye can see.

Crimsondude

It's Hell manifest.

Dareth Ram

shit ben reilly!

this shouldn't make me happy!

Wildcat

They really should have just said 'fuck it anyway' and dragged out the box of chromium.

psycojester

FCD wrote: »

Pouches as far as the eye can see.

It always depressed me that the nineties never reached their logical conclusion. An incredibly muscular dark magician anti-hero, who owns a magical pouch from which he can produce the hugest guns in the universe.

Ringo

Balefuego wrote: »

X-MEN/SPIDER-MAN #3 (of 4)
Written by CHRISTOS N. GAGE
Pencils & Cover by MARIO ALBERTI
We take you back to the days of grungy 90s as The X-Men and Spider-Man face off against Mr. Sinister and Carnage! But this Spidey isn't Peter Parker--it's Ben Reilly, the Spider-Clone! And Wolverine's claws are made of bone, not adamantium! It's radical...it's extreme...and if we coulda put a chromium cover on it, we would have! Put down your pogs and pick this up if only to feast your eyes on Mario Alberti's art! It'll make you say "Cowabunga, dude!"

Pogs, Grunge, and the Simpsons were all out of style by '98 when all those characters looked like that.

Balefuego

X-Men #1, which featured the Jim Lee redesigns came out in 1991.

Ben Reilly was Spider-Man from Jan '96 to Dec '96

The Lovely Bastard

dang now I have to get that issue

Robos A Go Go

Solicits aren't written by the series' writers anyway.